14 MSU Staffers Were Warned of Nassar (At Least One Complaint Reached President)

This just doesn't end for these families. How many knew? Dozens? Was it something Simon and her friends just joked about when no one else was around? If she lasts another day in her job, I'd be amazed. This goes so much further than any animosity toward a rival university.

And the MSU Board of Trustees offered her a raise on Dec. 21st...clueless

I've lost a lot of respekt for that university.

http://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/22143482/larry-nassar-writes-le…

FUUUUUCCCKKKK YOU DUDE! Least you can do is listen to how many lives you fucked up.

The only way to deal with abuse this pervasive is to fess up, come clean and let the chips fall where they may. You can’t cover it up, it will leach out; and when it does, it will be that much worse. If the lawyers didn’t tell MSU that was the way to go, they failed miserably in counseling their client. If they did and MSU ignored the advice, then the officials are idiots as well as immoral.

Read this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/17/ive-been-… Family "friend"...kid was 6 when he started.. I saw her testimony, and its heart wrenching to put it mildly. Nassar is a sick motherfucker, and so many failures to figure him out before he damaged so many people and families. From what I've read that this young woman, who was abused by him in her own home over the course of years (6 -12 years old), wasn't one of his patients. Her parents didn't believe her when she told them--and ultimately her dad committed suicide... Beyond tragic--and no less than that of the Sandusky horrors.

If I were still a MI resident or if I were a grad of MSU I'd be writing every single trustee to tell them that none of my money will go to MSU AND I'll be voting them out of office until a full indep. investigation is completed AND the Pres and AD and Deam of Human med (or w/e the fuck they call it in EL) are shit canned

Meanwhile here is Mark Hollis outside the courtroom.

 

For the longest time it seemed as though the amount of scrutiny this was getting from the media was completely insufficient in relation to the crimes.

That's no longer the case—it's now completely blowing up on twitter, with the Washington Post on it big-time now, and the momentum of social media is going to take over. MSU's days of delay, obfuscation, and passive-aggressive coverup are over. Simon's days are numbered, and once she goes, there will be increasing pressure on other MSU higher-ups to get shit-canned as well.

(Whether it makes sense to look at this case through this lens is perhaps a question of debate, but I bet that the absolute refusal by dozens of adults of both sexes to believe these girls will be looked at as another manifestation of the pervasive sexual mistreatment of girls and women in our culture.)

in that I fear the institution was so invested in not rocking the boat on their prized asset that they overlooked obvious red flags. It's obvious that MSU was proud to have Nassar in house because of his reputation. I suspect they overlooked red flags for a long time because they so valued that relationship

8 year olds, dude.

Actually, MSU's denial is going to make things much, much worse for them. At this point, as Don mentioned, the media has their jaws into a "hot story."

• With Olympian's Simone Biles, Aly Raisman and McKayla Maroney weighing in, it increases readership interest (and horror) greatly, both nationally and internationally.
• With the non-disclosure agreements of some (Maroney, perhaps others?) the US Gymnastics Assoc. is also under a spotlight, and would love to scapegoat Nassar.
• With sexual abuse and assault much more in the spotlight in the last year, this definitely reinforces that narrative. (Harvey Weinstein and many others.)
• The MeToo move is rightly outraged at so many turning a blind eye.
• With the Olympics coming up, albeit Winter Olympics, there is a tie in. IIRC, Nassar also "treated" several figure skaters.
• With the suicides coming to light, it only makes things worse.

Three observations

1. Patrick Fitzgerald was the former United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois. Under his watch, Governors George Ryan (Republican) and Rod Blagojevich (Democrat) were convicted and sent to prison. He also successfully prosecuted Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney's chief of staff, for perjury. Firtzgerald is absolutely methodical and incorruptible. He cannot be bought. The fact that he has been involved in the investigation means that no stone will be left unturned. MSU will be held accountable to the degree they are accountable, but he also will not allow them to be lynched by a mob mentality.
2. Many of you have an undying hatred of MSU. From your perspective, you are a fan of UofM, and your second favorite team is whoever is playing MSU. You would like to see MSU destroyed. Step back and take a breath. Is that really what you want? We love our team and our school, but we are sports fans. This is much bigger. We want those culpable to be punished, but don't use this as a way to jab at MSU. Actually, in this case with Nassar, it is best for Michigan fans to do nothing out of spite and hatred . . . otherwise, it merely looks like piling on.
3. It is a horrific story, and one that will be used (rightly) as a cautionary tale. From my perspective, it reminds me that we too often give a pass or don't investigate deeply when we in some way have a vested interest in the outcome. It is better to seek justice in as unbiased a manner as possible.

and keeping this in the light where it should be. Simon: "Play it straight up..." nice of you to play it straight up...as opposed to the other ways to handle sexual assault...

MSU really is handling this about as badly as PSU did with Sandusky, a level of incompetence I never thought we'd see again. Simon, Hollis, etc. need to be gone. People ignored warning signs for 20 fucking years.

I am sickened about Simon but also this:

"an official who is now MSU’s assistant general counsel"

WTF?  MSU's general counsel received a report and didn't follow proper protocol?

Seems to frequently lead to a coverup.

But there is always someone in the link that spills the beans whether deliberately or by a slip of the tongue.

Nothing good can come from this for MSU and deservedly so.

At least the mass media are all over it.  As much as MSU administration wants this to quietly go away as they have demonstrated with their inaction etc, this will never die now.  An incredible shame

Her picture she looks Lou Simon . Not Lou Ann Simon . Is she post op ?

Unable to Embed August 17, 2012 MLive Article in which MSU President sent 11,000 emails to her people and staff with direction training reporting mechanisms protocol and specific instructions following PSU/Sandusky. Simons and Hollis' People and Staff apparently institutionally ignored training protocols reporting mechanisms pervasively 14 times on the Nasser case alone. Their People Their AD Their Coaches did not follow THEIR bosses protocol training 11,000 emails Institutional Neglect, Poor Training, Poor Performance....Coaches Ignored President, AD permitted Drain the Red Cedar

Sign a card for Larry because she felt bad for him when all these charges were coming at him. She claims she ‘would trust him with her grandkids’. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/msu-abuse-scandal-coach-had-gymnas…

Sign a card for Larry because she felt bad for him when all these charges were coming at him. With one of his victims on her team! She claims she ‘would trust him with her grandkids’. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/msu-abuse-scandal-coach-had-gymnas…

The fact that allegations of knowledge, occurred after Penn State and the public statements by Simon in 2012 highlighting supposed training n protocols, spanned at least three different sports: gymnastics track softball, make me surprised AD Hollis survives.