Penn Sttate frat hazing death

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Just read about the grand jury’s harsh admonition of Penn State , shockingly, PSU’s response is pathetic. Read it for yourself.
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BlueWolverine02

December 15th, 2017 at 5:36 PM ^

Did you not attend college at UM or another major university?  Granted it's been awhile since I graduated, but Michigan knew full well that underage drinking was rampant and didn't even try to do anything about it.  They had a brief crackdown when Courtney Cantor died, but after that it was busines as usual.  Just don't step foot on the sidewalk with a beer and you were fine.  Hazing was present too and everybody knew it.  I was lucky enough to be in a non hazing fraternity, but there were plenty out there that hazed.   The only difference here is a kid died, mostly because the idiots didn't know enough to take him to the hospital.

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NittanyFan

December 15th, 2017 at 5:51 PM ^

yep --- that's been the PSU administration's stance, for most of the last several decades, as regards underage drinking and fraternity hazing among their students. 

As you're saying in your post - likely not the only school with that stance, though.

The days of "plausible deniability as a strategy" are coming to an end, however.  That will be one of Tim Piazza's legacies.

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RamblerRobotics

December 15th, 2017 at 5:54 PM ^

They didn't take him to the hospital because they were worried about their reputation and getting in trouble. Some people did try to help him and were physically assaulted by older members, even Tim Piazza was assaulted when he tried to get up and leave. He hit his head again and people stepped over him while he lay on the ground. Then when they realized he was dead they hatched a plan to dump him in the alley and tell the police that he was jumped coming back from the bar.

The entire thing was on video.

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BlueWolverine02

December 15th, 2017 at 6:02 PM ^

This is the first I have ever heard of that alley thing you mentioned.  But otherwise that is what happened.  Of course they were worried about their reputation and getting in trouble, who wouldn't be.  The problem is they didn't realize how serious the issue was.  If they had realized that death was a realistic possibility, i'm pretty sure they would have called an ambulance.  I have a hard time belieiving college kids are too dumb to realize that a dead kid would get them in a lot more trouble then an overserved kid.

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ijohnb

December 15th, 2017 at 6:32 PM ^

(The house) has been on probation before and had been “dry” allegedly, for some time. It was kind of zero tolerance. In their minds, the worst thing that could happen was that the party was discovered and the house would have been disbanded. And, while I know what you are saying is based on what you would expect to have happened under the circumstances, that isn’t what happened here. Piazza died a brutal and long death. Some of those kids were in over their head and unequiped to deal, some were malicious and, at times, savage. It is a rotten, no good story. No good at all.

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jblaze

December 15th, 2017 at 7:36 PM ^

OP, I’m not a fan in PSU or frats, but if you want to create a thread, present some facts and sraw a conclusion and if you are really awesome describe how Michigan is better

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Don

December 15th, 2017 at 8:58 PM ^

The OP is an embedded sleeper Russian bot that has been waiting for six years to post this information and throw MGoBlog into chaos and recrimination.

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