Is Pep Hamilton an issue
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:15 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:48 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:09 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 12:29 PM ^
I think we got away with it with older players the last couples seasons, but not only are we trying to run a pro offense, but I suspect the offense is being coached day in and day out like they are a pro team. While that might seem like a good thing to prep guys for potential futures, its going to blow up on game days in college with kids who have limited time as young students. College football is NOT the NFL. You are basically playing kids a year or two out of high school and teaching them pro concepts.
Moreover, one of my biggest concerns in watching this team's offense are the mental mistakes. Regardless of what team sport, teams who make mental mistakes (missed assignments, penalties, wrong routes, turnovers) screams of players who are NOT being drilled enough in fundamentals. In basketball you see players not boxing out, playing piss poor weak side defense, etc...in football we see this. Yes, some of its youth and inexperience, but also the approach towards daily coaching.
Teams with a lack of talent, but who are schooled in fundamentals, give team fits. Teams with talent and dont have the fundamentals, play like our offense. I am 100% behind Harbaugh, but something is off in the way this team is being coached on offense. Too many mistakes and its just not the scheme...but approach.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:23 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:59 AM ^
Maybe.
I'm wondering if we miss Jed Fisch much more than originally thought.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:11 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 1:25 PM ^
I feel like our offense isn't even trying to trick anyone this year... and that pisses me off the most.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:15 AM ^
maybe we can start running zone instead of power on the OL. Or vise versa? IDK what the hell we're running there anymore. We've switched back and forth so many fucking times. I think we're actually running both now?
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:22 AM ^
turn the O-Line over to Frey completely. Let Pep work with the WR's.... Let Drevno run the offense. Sunday evening coaches meetings are going to become a little more heated.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:52 AM ^
He's 6-5 for the last 11 games. There are legitimate questions and concerns about:
- The coaching of Drevno, Hamilton, and JH Junior
- QB play and personnel
- OLine talent and play
- Playcalling
- RB play
- WRs inability to get open
- All of the above for 2018
JH is the Head Coach. He's well into this 3rd year. The current issues are largely the results of decisions he has made re who to play, coaches, and recruiting. It's his responsibility to fix them.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:49 AM ^
There's so much angst... Fire everybody!!! Nice knee jerk, angry reactions to a team everyone knew would lose ~3 games this year. And everyone is crying tears over the offense, when the defense gave up 42 (where are the calls for Brown's firing?). Much to my surprise - and dismay, PSU is a legit top 5 team. The UF game lolled us to sleep, and made us think UM is a legit top 5 team. Last year they were, this year - nope.
Save for Cole, Bredeson, and the fullbacks, this offense is entirely new - without a single returning starter. Perry missed the entire off-season, he missed the install of the entire offense. It may seem like a bad time to implement a brand new offense (IZ, more diverse passing), but put it in place now and let the new offense grow with it - some games were going to be lost anyway because youth/inexperience. Growing pains happen, and then the returning QB went out for the year. The backup QB (who was also a G5 backup) just can't process the whole thing. The crap we're seeing on the field is the result. Its already been dumbed down so much that it looks like shit. Hopefully we see Peters get some PT, because JOK is gone after the season.
We're seeing some improvement from each of the position groups. DPJ is getting more and more, the OL can at least do some acceptable run blocking (PSUs defense is legit top 10, another thing I had discounted as myth). It's a complex, diverse offense that takes time to learn and understand.
To all those calling for a simpler offense, or an OC to direct things - shut the fuck up. You know damn well that Jim MF'ing Harbaugh is the HC, and that he runs a pro-level offense. And the last time we had an offense implemented over time, we witnessed the criminal theft of Denard Robinson's and Devin Gardner's ability to control games. Hoke's slow process was total bullshit. You really want to return to that? I don't...
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:53 AM ^
But I highly doubt anyone here is in position to exactly identify the exact root cause and whose fault it is. We just look at the outcomes on the field, but there's a lot of things factoring in here.
I will say that it would be extremely unusual for coaches to change up core concepts of their offense *mid-season*. You spend all spring and summer preparing your season and you can't replace all of that work from one week to the next.
That's not to excuse all coaches from their responsibilites, clearly you need to adjust gameplans within your general core framework and whatever they've been trying to do isn't working very well. But if anyone is in the position to see what exactly is going wrong it's Harbaugh, not us.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:53 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:02 AM ^
Figures... FSU is starting a true freshman at QB. Yet they want to change coaches because he can't make a true freshman play like a 5th yr senior. What a bunch of dummasses. Just like our fanbase!!
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:53 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 12:49 PM ^
For the amount of $ being spent on staff, the results have not lived up to the investment. Harbaugh will analyze what is wrong and what can be done to fix it, but has he ever shown that he will put results ahead of friendship? That is an honest question, I don't know the answer.
Beliein has shown more than once he is willing to make wholesale changes of his staff when results do not meet expectations.
This season is shaping up to be 4th place in the B10 East, exactly the same as Hoke's last year.
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:35 PM ^
and Drevno too if that's what it takes to get a quality OC in place. The Hamilton hire was really stupid. We have recreated the Cleveland Browns garbage offense. yippppeee!
October 22nd, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^
I can confirm as a Colts fan, his offense is very predictable and super unimaginative. He needs an otherworldly QB to make it half decent. Only reason he had success at Stanford/Colts at beginning was because of Luck. He's not good and needs to go.