MSU Snowflakes: The Offense

The score was closer than the turnover margin... that we went 0-5 in turnovers and lost by 4 points is pretty incredible. 

 

Bunch of mediocre MAC level players on offense Please tell me where this so called *talent* on offense is

he won at Stanford with great lines and Andrew Luck.  How the hell he won anything at San Fran is beyond me.

This program is a mess and he has no answers.  His press conferences are shit, he takes no responsibility for anything and offers no solutions, much like the offensive play-calling.

7-5 is the best this team will be and the three big games left will be embarassing beatdowns.

We need to stop with the "this team is young" excuse. All over college football you have freshman and sophomores at every position starting and being difference makers for their teams. Coaching is a problem on offense. We don't know who calls the plays. And maybe we shouldn't run an NFL offense with a QB who isnt an NFL QB

The only TD we scored tonight came on a 33 yard drive. 

Okay. Take a look at the rest of our schedule and tell me where you are confident that we can score 20 points. 

Indiana - Maybe

PSU - No

Rutgers High School - Yes

Minnesota - Not sure

Maryland - No

Wisconsin - Not only no, but hell no. 

Ohio State - See Wisconsin

We have a disaster on our hands, my friends. 

OSU’s DL is licking its chops right now. That game could get incredibly ugly if nothing changes between now and then. As in over by halftime.

I could see the PSU game being even worse than what we saw tonight. Barkley is going to be running with a vengeance that night after being shut down by Michigan the last two years, and the offense could fold like a cheap tent in the most hostile environment they’ll see all year.

is you cannot run a pro offense with college kids, especially w/o a dominating OL or with QB's that cant make the necessary throws. IMO we throw a lot of INT due to our passing game requiring our QB's little margin for error in the passing window.

In a women’s prison with a fist full of cash

Good news is we probably wont face a defense like that again until wisconsin.

I literally cannot find a single nice thing to say about the offense. We've done a lot of seizure enducing things on offense this year, but we tended to have some variety in the other games. Today I think we checked all the boxes:

Stupid, unneeded penalty that killed a big play and ultimately the drive.

Critical drops by wide receivers; especially McDoom's that cost us a chance at several reasonable endzone shots.

Turnovers like Oprah is handing them out.

Play calling so bad you wonder if you're watching a Pop Warner game. I'm still shaking my head at the 3rd and 4 play we called that killed our second to last drive.

I can barely wrap my mind around just how bad our offense is. We've found more ways to fuck ourselves on offense this year than the Lions have found to get themselves screwed out of wins and I just don't see how it is going to get any better. There are so many problems to correct I don't even know where we begin without at least an offseason and some job turnovers, but considering we just came off a bye week, I'm not even confident in that.

It is criminal that we are wasting defenses this good. I would be confident sending this defense out angainst anyone, maybe even the Browns and the Dolphins, but as we saw today they have to actually score as well or they don't get rewarded.

When drevnos line is full of dipshits, O'Korn is a dipshit, we don't have one do it all back to lean on and your tight ends and receivers are mostly underclassmen. Oh there was a monsoon too. Ya there were a good amount of head scratching plays, but it's tough to create offense when you turn it over 5 times and have no right side of your offensive line. The only coach I want gone(right now) is drevno. Dude sounds like an insufferable buffoon in his interviews. Right now I'm more disappointed in development of a couple of offensive players. All off-season we hear how hard of a worker Evans is and he honestly looks worse than last year. Brandon peters, a highly regarded recruit, Harbaughs first legit qb recruit that looks great in the spring and apparently has stopped improving and can't even sniff the field? These developments are just bizarre. Sigh I know we're ungodly young, but we all thought the line was going to get better bc addition by subtraction right? Now it's gotten much worse. Plus we all thought peters was going to grab the job and improve the qb play. That too has also gotten worse this year. Drevno sucks, I'm watching you too Pep, the 2017 offensive line class better yield at least 2 quality starters by next year, Peters better get his shit together and for the love of god plz sigh a legit superstar running back.

Medium time lurker, first time poster. 

Does anyone know if there are stats out there for number of players per position group played on average nationwide?  Or something that would list snap counts or something similar?

It seems the offense rotates so many players through the TE and WR spots that it would be hard to get any sort of rythym established. 

Maybe I am wrong and just notice when a non regular gets a snap to give someone a breather and it stands out in my mind. Anyone else notice this?

 

 

That was one of the worst games I've ever watched from a UM perspective.Props to MSU.

I love Harbuagh.

BUT

This offense has cost us Iowa, OSU, MSU this year. Is it gameplan, players, or it just me? All I know is Bak Mei King Fu.

Punt on first down, saves us the trouble of having to find a QB

Honestly, how bad could Peters be? If his only problem is "command" of the offense why not just play him and see if he can develop it through experience? The QB play can almost literally not be any worse.

Just have the D-line play offense too.

When will our O-Line EVER get good?? Michigan Football means having a military-grade powerful offensive line. I anxiously await the distant future in which our team finds that again. O’Korn is just ok. He lacks experience, and REALLY needs improvement on decision making. He’s gotta see the rush, and run the ball or throw it away before getting sacked. That decision making was nonexistent tonight. His success two weeks ago was due to his ability to escape from the bleeding of the o-line, and he could do that way less tonight. Running game simply should’ve been used more, with simple running on the outside. Recievers need to catch the ball. And TURNOVERS. They are killer against anyone, let alone Sparty. We can’t make controllable mistakes.

Catch the fucking ball, McDoom

I really, really want the 2011 offense again. So exciting to watch and while we lost a couple games with Denard at QB at least the dude made plays. OL was really good there too.

2017 defense is a keeper though. Balled out for sure

Yeah, the OL is not where it needs to be. But there are other things that need serious work.

I put some of the blame on the receivers. In recent years, Michigan's receivers have lacked physicality in running routes, and seem to give up too easily. They get forced to the sideline too easily which then requires a perfect throw to beat. Michigan is not a real threat to throw the ball outside the numbers either intermediate or long. Defenses know that. That consequently limits playcalling.

There are too many sacks on 1st and 2nd down, which shouldn't happen- they put you way behind schedule. Yeah, this is partly a protection issue and partly on receivers, but O'Korn (and Speight) both seem to hold the ball too long waiting for something to develop, and refusing to throw the ball away. Not sure if this is coinicidence or they have been coached this way, but seems like there are too many 2nd and 3rd and longs that result.

Swapping out Ulizio at RT for BB at the half was about 5 games too late.

We have to get a quarterback ready for next year. Play Peters. Nothing to lose anymore.

Very obvious that our offensive coaching staff is not on the same page.

That is a badly disorganized offense.

Defense did and lose the game has to be extrmely improbable, unless you turn the ball over 5 more times than your opposition.  Had a chance for a historic win losing the turnover battle 5-0, Would have be sweet, but instead Dantonio's whatever is extended. 

 

There is a big drop off from last year in the preparation, game planning and play calling. We miss Jedd Fisch. Hamilton is not getting it done.