The hell does Wiltfong know?
October 2nd, 2017 at 11:28 PM ^
October 2nd, 2017 at 11:50 PM ^
...which is south of Michigan
/geography'd
screen name does not check out
October 3rd, 2017 at 9:43 AM ^
We're competing with Bama for Ekiyor AND Otis Reese is from the South. Talking about two different players in one sentence, sorry for the confusion. I thought it would have been obvious since Ekiyor is not from the South but Reese is.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 9:13 PM ^
am really not worried about any 1 recruit. We will get some highly rated kids to replace any highly rated kids who leave. Getting to the playoff would sure help with that, either way I think it will be fine.
October 2nd, 2017 at 9:17 PM ^
2018 crootin' is WEIRD.
October 2nd, 2017 at 9:19 PM ^
October 2nd, 2017 at 9:20 PM ^
I don't understand all the hand wringing regarding recruiting. Look at Wisconsin Oline. Not exactly all 5/4 stars but very productive. I personally belive our issue is NOT talent. I am concerned about development of the talent. I was very high on Drevno when he was first hired. In fact, I thought he and Baxter (special teams) were the two best hires Harbaugh made. And as fate would have it, I think they were/are the two most dissapointing hires Harbaugh made against expectations. I was never high on Durkin and I was in a minority. He may be a good head coach, but I never thought he was an "elite" D Coordinator. I thought Frey would help this year. Not sure if the Tackle/TE and Guard/Center combo of Drevno/Frey is the answer.
One other REAL IMPORTANT note, not many Freshmen and second year players are ready for the grind to play consistent Oline. In all candor, Michigan has only two years of recruiting Oline talent. Year 3 and 4 will start to tell the tape. MIchigan just hopes to keep it together until they get a cohesive unit.
I am confident the line will be better this week. Bank on it. That said, I still would like to see Frey take over the Oline/TE's and Pep take over OC.
When Michigan is hoisting the National Championship trophy THIS YEAR the recruiting will take care of itself (a guy can dream can't he).
October 2nd, 2017 at 9:42 PM ^
October 2nd, 2017 at 9:20 PM ^
Where the fuck is alum96? I need some swim lanes, dammit.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 9:28 PM ^
Beilein got a SG.
October 2nd, 2017 at 9:42 PM ^
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October 3rd, 2017 at 9:54 AM ^
OL is a very cerebral position and Stanford is full of nerds. That is a big reason why he got his OL up to par quicker there than he has here. Not saying Michigan isn't full of smart kids but Stanford admissions for athletes is more strict.
Yes, this is year three but he's only had two full classes. So you're asking a lot out 1st and 2nd year players. OL needs time to develop (learn, get bigger/stronger).
It's not that he's missing out on impact type guys (Onwenu, Bredeson, Filiaga, Ruiz) they just take time to season before they can maul everyone in their path. Alabama can do that because they've been recruiting and performing at a high level for many years. Our D has reloaded after basically losing everyone and soon the offense, and OL specifically, will do the same.
It is ONLY year 3 after an almost decade of shit. Like you said, the program IS headed in the right direction but some pieces take a little more time than others to get where we'd want them to be.
But you're right about the coaching, it has been underwhelming considering the success Drevno has had previously.
October 3rd, 2017 at 11:36 AM ^
Think of how much better we'd be w/ him at LT and Cole at either C or RT.
October 2nd, 2017 at 9:57 PM ^
Recruiting will get a boost when we beat Ohio State in the Big House this year.
October 2nd, 2017 at 9:58 PM ^
enough that I now assume Ekiyor is a Bama lean
October 2nd, 2017 at 11:14 PM ^
judging by many responses, not yours, some people took it to mean Steve Wiltfong dont know sh!t. others may see it as criticism of his judgment. it's neither of those. some people expect this not to come up in a forum and would rather I'd not brought it up? like it or hate it recruiting a top OL or the loss of said recruit is news worthy of discussion. for a second i considered, Gee whiz look at that a prediction for Emil to Alabama. no i didn't.
October 2nd, 2017 at 10:13 PM ^
Another possible decommitment and unexpected commitment to elsewhere for Drevno recruits.
Devery Hamilton, Isaia Wilson, and guess what, Dvontae Dobb's primary recruiter is also Drevno.
Ekiyor earlier told the media that Michigan is not contacting him enough. Something wrong with the way Drevno recruits.
October 2nd, 2017 at 10:21 PM ^
October 2nd, 2017 at 10:31 PM ^
...trolls be trollin
October 2nd, 2017 at 10:27 PM ^
if you're following this recruitment then you'll know that Sam Webb has stated that he loves Michigan and wants to go there.
This visit to Alabama was a measuring stick to see how it compares to UM.
Don't you think Alabama would have told him they churn out NFL lineman like no other program over the last 10 years? You can do the math here, Michigan currently isn't at that level.
It's not a recruiting issue, I take it as a 'state of the unit' issue and currently Bama is a better fit.
October 2nd, 2017 at 10:34 PM ^
/s .. should be obvious but just in case
October 2nd, 2017 at 10:40 PM ^
FWIW, Brandon posted a thread a little while ago on the Rivals board that basically hinted that he's going to Bama and the M staff isn't too concerned with losing him. No bag men, no under the table crap. Staff seems to have cooled on him and the kid knows it. Plus you can't fault a kid for wanting to play at Bama.
October 2nd, 2017 at 10:41 PM ^
So Bama wants him but Michigan doesn't.
Yeah, I'm seriously concerned with our OL coaches at this point.
October 3rd, 2017 at 12:22 AM ^
Maybe because this kid from Indiana grabbed the first high profile offer, which happened to be Michigan since it was regional, and parlayed that into being part of the Bama NFL Oline Machine because his concern was getting to the NFL; consequently, since his concern wasn't to play for Michigan the staff isn't concerned if he goes where he is most comfortable.
When UofM consistently sends multiple successfull Oline to the NFL again than the recruiting will pick up.......which should happen next year :)
October 2nd, 2017 at 10:43 PM ^
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October 2nd, 2017 at 11:06 PM ^
Say publicly that they're solid, but also continue to take visits means they are very soft commits. Never felt like he was truly committed to the good guys. This one is not a shocker. Bummer but not a shocker.
GO BLUE!!
October 2nd, 2017 at 11:19 PM ^
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October 2nd, 2017 at 11:57 PM ^
Fuck.
What's up with the 2018 class?
October 3rd, 2017 at 12:29 AM ^
October 3rd, 2017 at 2:34 AM ^
You do realize the 2016 and 2017 were pretty impressive classes and 2019 looks like it can also be impressive. 2018 just seems a little off, since it's not up to par with those two classes (as of yet) and possibly 2019. I didn't say anything about Bama or championships, so I feel like you're replying more to this thread than me specifically.
October 3rd, 2017 at 11:15 AM ^
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October 3rd, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^
This same logic applies to nearly every program outside of maybe 5?
Don't get me wrong - I get the Bama v. Michigan recent success argument but it's also not *that* universal.