Michigan at MSU MBB open thread

Submitted by ThadMattasagoblin on January 29th, 2017 at 12:39 PM

Time to beat MSU in their only good sport and make them a quidditch school.

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Crootin

January 29th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

students yes. kids, no. Irvin needs to ride the pine.

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BLHoke

January 29th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^

Or, if not for Irvin

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HireWayne

January 29th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^

Everybody but Walton played terrible. Irvin especially. Disappointing loss.

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BLHoke

January 29th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^

Mo didn't play bad, the refs just fucked him... And who knows what MAAR might've done with Zak's minutes. He hit a 3, then JB took him out and we never saw him again!

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bluinohio

January 29th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

More proof Beilein has lost it.

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bluebyyou

January 29th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^

We are what we are...a middle of the pack team that is sometimes a bit worse and sometimes a bit better. Our players are middle of the pack and our future does not bode will.

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HollywoodHokeHogan

January 29th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^

Just waiting for the next guy at this point, no use belaboring the same shit that's been going on for three years.

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BursleyBaitsBus

January 29th, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^

Worst MSU team in a long time and we got bopped.

Why does every basketball team in the country have freshmen that contribute except Michigan?

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Crootin

January 29th, 2017 at 3:21 PM ^

Beilein needs a firm handshake.

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marti221

January 29th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^

Won't happen, they'll give him another year. Wilson and Wagner will be the highlight of another mediocre team. We'll end up with another mediocre recruiting class following that.

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Joseph_P_Freshwater

January 29th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^

we haven't won a road game since last February.

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Crootin

January 29th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^

that is an incredible stat

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bluinohio

January 29th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^

Good game Irvin, way to show your senior leadership.

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BLHoke

January 29th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^

Unless you're Russell Westbrook, it's bad if your sub 6'4" PG leads in points, rebounds and assists.

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marti221

January 29th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

Walton had a great game, so did our bigs. Neither is the reason we lost

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BLHoke

January 29th, 2017 at 3:32 PM ^

I agree about Walton... The bigs, not so much. Wagner played well when allowed to by the refs and his coach, but DJ was non existent on either end in the 2nd half. I just meant it's usually not a winning recipe if your PG has more rebounds than your 2 big men.

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marti221

January 29th, 2017 at 3:21 PM ^

Irvin blows

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Lampuki22

January 29th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

We have no hope of beating athletic teams under our present coach who refuses to recruit (and has burned all bridges) in one of the best states for basketball talent. I don't care if they find a top coach or promote the guy they brought in for defense this year, Mr. Belien, thank you for your services. Take your pile of money and go coach in the Ivy League where you belong.

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Crootin

January 29th, 2017 at 3:27 PM ^

agree. We'll always have the championship game run and the elite 8. Fun years to watch Wolverine basketball. and a silver lining when football was imploding. But now? This is just too much. He's gotta go.

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massblue

January 29th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

What has happened to Irvin? Is it the effects of the surgery? He is half the player he was three years ago.

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enlightenedbum

January 29th, 2017 at 3:27 PM ^

Three years ago Irvin had one job: stand in the corner and shoot threes.

He's a role player who is trying to force his way into being a star player because we don't have other options.

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Crootin

January 29th, 2017 at 3:29 PM ^

true. even his three point shooting isn't particularly good. maybe because he forces shots, but still.

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enlightenedbum

January 29th, 2017 at 3:35 PM ^

Saw about a week ago that his catch and shoot numbers are still good. It's the ones where he dribbles that are a problem.

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MichLax

January 29th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

Imagine next year with X as the starting PG...

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SagNasty

January 29th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

This loss is squarely on Irvin. If he scores 8-10 points which is well below his average Michigan wins. Walton on the other hand was a warrior.

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True Blue Grit

January 29th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^

at this point. They can't win on the road, play weak defense most of the time, and they can't depend on getting consistent efforts from enough players, the worst being Irvin. When you adjust for experience level and physical talent, he's had several of the worst individual performances this year in Michigan history.

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SpreadGuru

January 29th, 2017 at 3:29 PM ^

Neither team is making the tournament

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Crootin

January 29th, 2017 at 3:33 PM ^

hope you're right. embarrasing for sparty. maybe will catalyze a coaching change for us.

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skurnie

January 29th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^

Credit to Walton, who tried to carry the entire team in the second half.

Irvin hits half his average and the game is winnable. Frustrating

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UMxWolverines

January 29th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^

This is the first game I've watched this year and probably the last. Nothing different from last year and won't be. Just waiting on the change.

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enlightenedbum

January 29th, 2017 at 3:25 PM ^

Well, that sucked.

Bright side: we played like shit, got a crap whistle, and had a sorta shot late at Breslin. Walton was aggressive for like the fourth straight game. Wagner was pretty good when not plagued by fouls.

Bad side: we played like shit, hooooo boy

Ugly side: Irvin. Yipes. If he didn't have the flu or something...

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enlightenedbum

January 29th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^

Beilein says my random ass guess about Irvin having the flu is correct.

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Hotel Putingrad

January 29th, 2017 at 3:27 PM ^

we suck again

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SagNasty

January 29th, 2017 at 3:27 PM ^

I don't get the meltdowns? This was a desperate Msu team and I thought Michigan played well enough to win. The difference was Irvin. Just have to protect home court going forward and steal 1 or 2 on the road. The defense has been much better the last 4 games.

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marti221

January 29th, 2017 at 3:29 PM ^

Absolutely agree. Although I think that for those reasons, we're gonna have another year of JB and mediocre basketball. Nonetheless, defense has been much improved and if we actually had a decent young guard or two, we'd be looking at a bright future.

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pbmd

January 29th, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^

Future Based on past performance:
once in a while compete with top 1/3 of conference
Maybe compete in NCAA tourney
Lots of years hard to watch basketball

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enlightenedbum

January 29th, 2017 at 3:37 PM ^

By compete in the top third you mean win the Big Ten and also make a national championship game between those, sure.

This is the third straight frustrating/disappointing season, definitely, but let's not understate Beilein's accomplishments to make a point.

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pbmd

January 29th, 2017 at 3:57 PM ^

I believe wvu has been better since beilein quit and Huggins took over
Beilein an upgrade over ammaker et al but there has to be more for Michigan than this program
Are we wasting away?

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SagNasty

January 30th, 2017 at 7:02 AM ^

Did wvu make the championship game and have an elite 8 appearance?

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pbmd

January 29th, 2017 at 3:31 PM ^

Expected result:
Mediocre Michigan 8 points worse than bad Msu team on road
Put up a little fight but not too much
Team moves on - keep expectations low- win a few lose a few

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Maynard

January 29th, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^

Oh that's all? Just win all of the home games and win on the road, something that hasn't happened since last February. As for desperate, they both should be. 4-5 in the league is not where you want to be. So it's not as much about meltdowns as it is recognizing reality.

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SpikeFan2016

January 29th, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^

The problem with protect home court is that we have two home games remaining against the best two teams in the Big Ten (Purdue and Wisconsin).

We will need way more than 1-2 road wins.

Beating Ohio State next weekend is an absolute must win.

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umchicago

January 29th, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^

they were pretty bad in every facet of the game. more TOs than sparty. outrebounded by sparty. sparty shot better from 3. irvin had zero points and was horrible. they hung close because sparty is not good.

this was a game UM could have stolen, if they did just one thing well other than making FTs.

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SagNasty

January 30th, 2017 at 7:01 AM ^

That's pretty much exactly my point.

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Future Footbal…

January 29th, 2017 at 3:31 PM ^

Fire Beilen Hire Fisher

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Bill22

January 29th, 2017 at 5:09 PM ^

Yes! Best suggestion I've heard in while. Oh, and put the Fab 5 National Runner-Up banners back up.

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allintime23

January 29th, 2017 at 3:32 PM ^

Hope we see that rematch in the NIT. Two average teams clashing for fifth place in a bad conference.

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username03

January 29th, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^

This is what you get when you recruit like a mid-major. I don't know why anyone is surprised.

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Jimmyisgod

January 29th, 2017 at 3:39 PM ^

I hate losing to MSU! Their defense was the difference. Wilson played tentatively going against Bridges. MSU has no size and we didn't take advantage of that enough. Have to beat them at chrysler, they've beaten us 5 in a row.

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BoCanHam15

January 29th, 2017 at 4:06 PM ^

Wth is Chrysler???

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