OT-Game of Thrones S6 E5
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Nymeria (Sansa's direwolf) and Ghost are left. And it better stay that way.
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Nymeria (Arya's direwolf) is still alive (and in the books, running around with a large pack of wolves killing things). The show has just never focused on Nymeria after Arya told her to run away.
Lady (Sansa's direwolf) dies halfway through season 1 when Joffrey throws a hissy fit and Ned has to kill a wolf as punishment for what Arya did to Joffrey.
Sansa's direwolf, Lady, was killed by Ned in season one because one of the direwolves had to pay for biting Joffrey. Arya sent hers away so they wouldn't find it and kill it.
Which is nice symbolism/symmetry since that is precisly what has happened to Arya. She was forced to run away and now she has joined a pack of killers.
Will she go full psycho though? And will she finally kick that older girls' butt?
I think the Waif (the older girl) has got it right, and Arya will leave them, but not until she is one of them.
Thanks for the correction. Getting my direwolves mixed up. My other comment still stands.
I wonder if Martin gave the HBO writers where to go or if George's story will be radically different than where HBO is going?
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IIRC, he has said that more than half of the next book is done. The writers were working from finished material up to this point. The books have a sort of pattern -- the first part is where all the loose ends from the previous book are tied up, then everyone heads out to their new adventures. So this episode is that point, the transition where everyone heads out into the unknown.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn HBO made a deal to have this season come out before Winds of Winter. I'm not sure I buy the whole story about him not being able to finish it on time -- I'd say it's a win-win -- HBO makes more money from having these "exclusives" while Martin has more time to tinker with the cliffhangers at the end of the next book, which are integral to the start of the final book, which is what HBO really needs from him now -- not the end of Winds of Winter, but the start of the final book.
You have MUCH more faith in MArtin than I do at this point.
I just think he has a combination of writer's block/don't give a shit. It's his life and his choice to do so and frankly he has enough money and other projects that he doesn't need to put out any more books.
I think the show is going to press ahead and whatever progress is made on the books is going to get shattered because he is ornery about it and decides to go ina new direction with them just to make sure they're "his own" thus guaranteeing they never come out.
You are probably right, and you know more than me about this, but I guess I just think the books are not that hard to write -- the reason the story spun out of control after he blew up the original (trilogy) ending is because it is far too easy for him to churn out chapters.
So I don't see writer's block as being in play. But not giving a shit, as you put it, could fit into it. Having other projects that pay more for less work, too.
The Winds of Winter could be the last book published in the series. HBO is going to stage the finale regardless, and you may be right that after it is completed there will be little incentive for him to finish.
Just for screwing Sansa over.
And for the record, I like the fake play Sansa. She has nice tatas.
When things didn't go her way, she was smart and got the hell out of dodge.
isn't that bright either. Why not round up your rivals prior to doing the king ceremony?
It is also going to take a lot of time and wood to make 1000 ships.
He's still supposed to be very young too, despite the actor playing him growing up rapidly.
I mean, Arya could have ended the war entirely and saved her family had she used those three deaths correctly, but she didn't. Robb could have avoided the death of his family had he held to his oath with the Freys.
Pretty much all of the characters make mistakes/choices that have unforseen consequences in the series. I'd say the best characters at not doing that are Littlefinger and Varys, due to their meticulous, plotting ways, but even they can be surprised by how events unfold.
to foster by Howland Reed, but most people think they are odd, and are usually disliked as a result. The Cranoggmen, or frog people, because of where they live, and how they fight, using stealth and poison, as opposed to the honorable way on the field of battle. As a result they are usually left alone.
It will be interesting to see if they are introduced now that Jon and Sansa are shopping for allies, and if Jon meets Howland and that's how he learns of his parentage, something Ned promised to share with him, but never got the opportunity. Jon and Sansa should both be well aware that Howland Reed was one of Ned Starks most loyal friends and supporters, and will almost certainly try to recruit them to their side in the war against the Bolton's.
I think we will learn from Bran what happened at the Tower of Joy, as he seemed to be particularly interested in that event, but wasn't allowed to see it though at the time by the 3 eyed Raven, I assume that's one of the first things he'll go back to now that he's on his own. But even if Bran learns the truth, he now knows that trying to change the past has negative consequences for those he tries to communicate with, so Jon will have to find out the truth on his own. Hopefully after what happened with Hodor, Bran learns the that the past is done, 'it's already been written, and the ink is dry'.
It is only a guessing game which Northern houses join the Stark cause. Based on the trailer it seems like Davos goes to House Mormont. There is a short cutaway of him standing in a room with the bear sigil in the background.
They have a bone to pick with Ramsay, and border the Manderleys
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Great episode again, this season is shaping up to be one of my favorite seasons of this show. Leave it to director Jack Bender, who directed plenty of awesome episodes on the equally incredible Lost, to finally pull my heartstrings on this show. I wasn't emotional at the Red Wedding, more in shock, and I have never been close to tears on this show, but man, the last 10 minutes really got me here. Another really good episode though all the way around. I have complained about the iron islands stuff in the past, but it was really good this episode.
Overall, even though there's some storylines coming through very slowly, this season has been really good IMO. I have been disappointed with the Iron Islands though. Euron is far less badass in the show than the books. That kingsmoot was a shit show compared to the book kingsmoot.
Eh, only so much time/budget and a lot to get through.
But I'm also an Iron Islands storyline(in the books) hater, so my perspective is likely influenced by that.
I don't mind the storyline in the books. But I think it gets too much time. It could have been condensed pretty easily IMO.
I'll say that Euron's entrance to the show was badass, which raised my hopes. But his kingsmoot speech was unconvincing IMO.
I hope he pays Walder Frey a visit.
how much would it suck if Hodor came back as a walker?
How can he not?
Watchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?!
Sansa's dismissal of Littlefinger is going to lead to something negative by the end of the season. Maybe that was a really sad foreshadowy pun when Littlefinger told Sweetrobyn "the time has tome to join the fray".
So there you have it. By the end of the season The Knights of the Vale will be at the Twins riding out with the Frey's ;)
Also, love the Coldhands guess above too. Totally think that is happening.
That said...who is the white walker King? Jon's father maybe? I am feeling like he looked a little targaryian or a little stark. Mind so blown though I can't put pieces together.
Final guess, Davis is finally going to be I charge of recruitment again, but this time instead of for stannis, he will try to get the mandrelys etc for Sansa and they will get Jorah to get his peeps in the process (as Jorah needs to seek out some crazy witch magic and he might know about shireen and the fact that she stopped that clamp from spreading).
That or non of this could be true at all and they kill all my favorite people again. F-ers.
Can someone tell me what happened to Jojen in the show? I read the books a long time ago and with a year between show seasons some of the details fade and blend between show nad books. What happened to that guy in the show?
right before they got Bran to the 3 eyed raven.
so that Meera and Bran both lose someone together. Easy to just kill him off in the show so you don't have to pay the actor.
Somewhat confirmation that "Hodor" was always going to be "Hold the Door" and how a fan predicted it (from a couple years ago):
https://ventrellaquest.com/2014/04/20/got-got/
EDIT: I guess this doesn't necessarily confirm that GRRM had it planned out 20-whatever years ago, but given what the guy has created, I'm more than willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
It was pretty gut-wrenching to learn about "hold the door", and it was hard to watch. But I don't think it was harder to watch than Shireen having been burned alive. Can't re-watch that one... Those two moments are the only two that pulled my heart out through the entire show. The Red Wedding was sad, especially when Caitlin's throat was cut, but nobody that died in that scene was a child. And they were all involved in the fight. Shireen and Hodor were not, they were just along for the ride, trying to be kids.
by his Uncle Benjen Stark? Who will then return to Castle Black and become the next official Lord Commander of the Nights Watch.
Benjen Stark Coldhands tag team will save Bran & Meera then ride off on an Elks back to the wall.
Before he disappeared, he was the first ranger of the Night's Watch, so his tracking skills should be outstanding. It isn't plausible that Meera would be able to drag Bran back to the Wall all by herself without being caught by zombies, and Coldhands hasn't appeared in the show at all.
I was being pretty facetious. But, really, it makes about as much sense as the Cleganebowl.
I think you may be onto something, Coldhands hasn't been used yet and you'd figure he would tie into this, if there was ever a time for that reveal, it's now.
If you go to 1:19 of this trailer and pause it, it looks like CH.
I think its questionable whether he makes it back or not.
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