Who is your favorite UM player of all-time?

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It's kind of a slow and boring day today, so I figured this would be a fun topic. My earliest memories of UM football is around 2000 so I think my guy is Chris Perry, the guy just did everything in my opinion! This is my first post and sometimes I see people get killed for certain posts and I have no idea why haha I hope if this thread isn't appropriate that you guys will take it easy on me and give me some good feedback on why it isn't good and what I can do to improve my MGoBoard skills. Lol Go Blue!

Philmypockets

July 13th, 2015 at 7:02 PM ^

If CW isn't tops then you didn't see him. He is brought up here in the South as maybe the best all around player ever. Gator fans debate with me over Tebow or him.

Ray

July 13th, 2015 at 7:13 PM ^

There was once a time when it was as exciting to see the defense on the field as the offense--more so, sometimes. You actually caught yourself looking forward to it. That was when #2 was out there. In my lifetime there has been no one even close to him as both a talent and a playmaker. "Stellar" is a good start, but still unequal to the task.

Ron Utah

July 13th, 2015 at 7:26 PM ^

Woodson is my favorite, but there are some other guys that deserve love that haven't been mentioned much:

  • Tim Biakabutuka - Amazing player who owned OSU in 1995.
  • Marquise Walker - Quietly one of the best WRs of all time.
  • Jeremy Gallon - Next to Mike Hart, I've never seen a player out-play his potential more than this guy.
  • Jason Avant - Did whatever was needed to win.
  • Tai Streets, Amani Toomer, Derrick Alexander - All really good WRs, all fun to watch.
  • Jarrett Irons - Tackled anything that moved.
  • Leon Hall, Ty Law - Lockdown corners that won games with INTs.
  • Aaron Shea and BJ Askew - Awesome FBs that could run, block, and catch.
  • Jerame Tuman, Jay Riemersma, Ben Joppru - Great TEs that could block and catch.
  • Baas, Pape, Backus...too many OL to name beyond the Longs and Lewans
  • Lamaar Woodley, Brandon Graham, James Hall - Sack artists who could stop the run as well.
  • Gabe Watson and Allen Branch - Space-eaters who crushed opponents.
  • Dhani Jones, Ian Gold, Larry Foote - Tackling machines that made the whole defense better.
  • Jordan Kovacs - Honestly, other than Marcus Ray, the only safety that I have fond memories of...#5 will change that this season.

aratman

July 13th, 2015 at 7:28 PM ^

You are all so young.  Good guy and all but he couldn't throw a pass or win championships.  Jim H. is my favorite because I was 12 when he was the QB, that is when this addiction started for me.  AC because well AC.  

Ron Utah

July 14th, 2015 at 12:15 PM ^

Come on, Don.  I love Denard as a player and person, but you're comparing two very different eras of football.  Denard was not a very good passer.  JH was.  Who would you rather have throwing the football?  JH would have put up monster passing numbers in today's college football, was a first round pick at QB and a successful NFL QB.

That said, I agree the poster's criticism was a bit extreme--Denard's arm did a few great things for U-M while he was here.

Don

July 14th, 2015 at 2:02 PM ^

The comment was: "but he couldn't throw a pass."

Denard Robinson has a higher completion percentage—57.2%—than Scott Dreisbach, John Wangler, Steve Smith, Rick Leach, and John Navarre, and is the same as Drew Henson's.

His yards per completion—14.6—is higher than Henne, Navarre, Grbac, Collins, Harbaugh, Brady, Griese, and Henson.

His TD passes—49—are more than Collins, Harbaugh, Brady, Smith, Griese, Leach, Wangler and Henson threw. On average, he tossed a TD every 15.2 throws; Harbaugh threw one every 20 throws, Brady every 20.3, and Griese every 18.3.

By any objective measure, the notion that Denard Robinson "couldn't throw a pass"—which is an opinion that I've seen expressed here by more than one person—is malarkey.

If the OP had said "but he wasn't among the best passing Michigan QBs overall," I wouldn't have any quibbles at all—he wasn't, and his high number of INTs—39—is testament to that. Denard had no future as a QB in the NFL, whereas most of the guys mentioned above did.

What I find very interesting is that although Denard's career passing stats dwarf Rick Leach's in every category except yards per completion, nobody ever mentions Leach with the caveat "but he was a lousy passer." Seven different commenters in this thread mention Leach specifically as one of their favorites, yet not one of them refers to his less-than-stellar passing stats. I wonder why? My guess is that the fact Michigan never won a conference championship while Denard was QB is a major factor, but to put all the blame for that on Denard or his arm ignores the manifold number of shortcomings of the teams he was on.

Blue Durham

July 14th, 2015 at 9:10 PM ^

While I am 54 years old and a couple of decades younger than you Don, I do remember Rick Leach quite well, and your points are spot on. Leach was a great leader, and a relatively shifty runner. He deserves his accolades as an all-time great Michigan player. But Leach was a terrible passer; yes, worse than Robinson, and obviously not near the runner. But unlike Robinson, Leach had an incredible supporting cast around him. The opposing teams had to sell out the run against Michigan, but that was not due to Leach but due to the team's running game. Put Robinson on Leach's teams and they could have won the NC. Put Leach on Robinson's teams, and they win fewer games each season, no question to me anyway. No disrespect to Leach, but quality of each of their respective teams was diametrically opposite.

Blue N Bama

July 13th, 2015 at 7:32 PM ^

Harbaugh, Woodson, Hart - Swagger and attitude that was backed up with on field performance. Came into the fold with Harbaugh as a kid. Woodson was just a beast and one of my best friends was a huge Tennessee/Peyton fan and still enjoy rubbing in the Heisman to this day, Hart was a cocky baller and the little brother comment sealed the deal.



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Coldwater

July 13th, 2015 at 7:36 PM ^

I've been watching since the early 1980s.

My fav player of all time is Harbaugh. This has nothing to do with him being the coach. I've said Harbaugh to this question forever. Second is Wheatly, 3rd is Woodson

Gr1mlock

July 13th, 2015 at 7:45 PM ^

Woodson, for all the obvious reasons.  Although Biakabutuka is a close second; the 313 yard game against Ohio State is a very fond memory.   And Denard is probably number three, just so much fun to watch.  

BigOzzy86

July 13th, 2015 at 7:52 PM ^

1) Greg Skrepenak - well before the federal indictment. Look up his pregame interview from 1991 Rose Bowl... Taste Great.. Less Filling... (wish they would have won the game) 2) Steve Everitt - dude broke every bone in his body and kept showing up. 3) Jake Long - guy was an animal. 4) Lamar Woodley - guns don't kill people... Lamar Woodley Kills people

Feel The Strength

July 13th, 2015 at 8:06 PM ^

COOLEST NAMES: Football: Tshiamanga Biakabutuka Basketball: Makhtar N'Diaye FAVORITE PLAYERS: Football: Charles Woodson (I was at the Big House when he returned the punt for a TD to send us to Pasadena) Basketball: Jalen Rose (I grew up watching the Fab 5 and still have my DeLong Youth Large #5 Michigan jersey...wore it to Atlanta to the Final Four in fact.)

Mr. Owl

July 13th, 2015 at 8:08 PM ^

Irving Kane Pond.

His recollection on the first touchdown in Michigan history:

"I am not a modern footballist (sic) if indeed I were ever any kind of footballist. I played only for the fun of it! ... My touchdown was made towards the end of the first half and involved a long distance run to where the ball must be grounded directly behind and between the goal posts ... To Avoid being tackled I was forced to mount the bleachers and run eastward along them until I was opposite the goal when I stopped suddenly and -- fearing that a touchdown in the bleachers would not count-- jumped over the heads of my pursuers to the ground."

Unfortunately, a touchdown only counted on the scoreboard then if the kick was successful, which it was not.  So the first TD in Michigan Football didn't count as a scoring play.

 

GOBLUE4EVR

July 14th, 2015 at 12:06 PM ^

mine...

football: jamie morris

basketball: glen rice 

hockey: brian wiseman**/morrison... ** if you're from the windsor/essex county/chatham-kent area brian wiseman is a legend!!! arguably the best player to ever come out of southwestern ontario...

uncleFred

July 13th, 2015 at 8:12 PM ^

My initial reaction to the question was Rob Lytel, Rick Leach, Charles Woodson. In a single vision that allowed no order. 

Then the names storm in: Anthony Carter, Desmond Howard, Chris Perry, Mike Hart, Denard, Jake Long, Mannigham, Avant, Henne, Gerbac, Tom Bradey, Bryan Griese, Steve Hutchinson, Tai Streets, Chris Howard, Glen Steele, Lamar Woodley, Larry Foote, Dufek, at this point Harbaugh...  and at least  couple of dozen more.

I've been following Michigan football since the early 60s.  Fifty plus years, with out adjusting for the changes in the scholarship rules, that's more than 1400 players who've worn the maize and blue. 

I can't really pick one and would be pressed to pick even a top five, although those first three would certainly make that cut. So many amaziing plays, plays made with the game in the balance. Plays made by men who exceeded any reasonable, or even unreasonable, expectation. 

My hope is that my favorite player has yet to take the field and that more super human play waits in the wings of future Michigan football.

Blue Durham

July 13th, 2015 at 8:22 PM ^

I'd be interested if peoples responses coincided with when they started as a fan of Michigan football or when they were a student at the University. I bet the correlation is strong.

With that, I have had a lot of favorites:

Anthony Carter (my graduating class as an undergrad)

Steve Smith (great QB, the only guy faster on the team was Carter, and Bo loved to run Smith, and that killed his passing)

Mike Trgorvac (LB, spelling obviously wrong as, there is no correct spelling for his last name, they are all wrong; tough as shit and was a slob on the field with his jersey not tucked in - yeah, that's me, and I loved that)

Jim Harbaugh (most impressive of him was he was comfortable changing Bo's playcalls, and of course his guaranteed win agains OSU that made Bo shit his pants)

Tripp Wellborne (before injury, he was every bit as good as Woodson, yeah, no shit, and was a great return guy)

Eric Kattus (started a great string of TEs)

Mark Messner (greatest DL pound-for-pound Michigan ever had)

Charles Woodson (I love great defensive play, and what is not to love about the only defensive player to win the Heisman)

Mike Hart (had the greatest heart for a RB I've ever seen, and got the tough yards that really meant something)

But my favorite:

Denard Robinson Yeah, shortcomings aside regarding his passing, he had to endure so much, was SOOO supportive when he was backing up Tate Forcier when he was the starting QB, gave everything on the field when he was the only offense, was a fan of Michigan basketball, and his smile. With all the CRAP he had to endure, He WAS still sooooo Michigan!

Blue Durham

July 13th, 2015 at 8:49 PM ^

That 1985 team was interesting. After the wreckage of the 6-6 1984 season, nobody knew what to expect from the 1985 team. I don't even think the team was even ranked preseason, but was dominant at the end of it. There was a lot of talent on that team, but a few pieces weren't in place (namely QB) and there was a bad team chemistry. It kind of makes you think of the present situation, doesn't it?

S FL Wolverine

July 13th, 2015 at 8:38 PM ^

Desmond Howard.  I was in college at the time, so maybe a bit of nostalgia, but he had the single greatest offensive season I've ever seen a Michigan player have.  Absolutely amazing.