If you can't get in to OSU, there's always Georgia...
2015 OL Mirko Jurkovic originally signed with the bucks, but was denied for academic reasons. Instead, he was happily accepted at the university of georgia, where it would appear to take little more than a pulse to gain admittance.
We talk and speculate a lot about academic admission criteria, but this is a pretty strong case for even the worst B10 schools being superior to the SEC. No real surprise I guess, but still kind of interesting...
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/09/ohio-state-signee-o…
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TAMU is up there too, now that they're in the SEC. Strictly speaking undergrad, UGA is probably 4th or 5th in the conference.
They may have different standards for athletes, that I can't attest to. However there is less of an academic gap between Georgia Tech and Georgia than there is between us and Little Bro. Their undergrad is admittedly average, but they have solid grad schools. As a prospective student I can tell you that their law school is always ranked in the top 30 or 25, depending on which rankings you go off of.
Are you talking about Florida or Georgia for law school? Personally, I have never seen either mentioned that high but I assume you mean Florida for law school.
Edit: after looking I see you probably mean UGA which is listed at #31 on USNews. That surprised me as I had never seen it close to that level but maybe it has improved. Certiainly, Emory is the top law school in that area but that's a decent showing for UGA.
Yeah I was speaking of UGA. Above The Law ranks them 27 and Emory 36, but the brand of Emory is generally thought of to be better, yes. I am considering both.
Alabama is an even worse undergrad than UGA and also has a surprisingly well-thought-of Law School (22 on USN, 28 to ATL)
The best state-run law school in a given state will generally be decent because it will automatically get a bunch of the top in-state applicants because tuition will be cheaper than an out-of-state or private option. This is particularly true in a state with a large city like Atlanta in it.
Thats not really true for graduate schools. In state tuition (as in just straight tuition) at michigan $26,367 for in state $27,867 for out of state. You save a whopping $1,500 a year. Harvard on the other hand is $57,200 so going to public school over private might make financial sense. As far as I can tell Georgia in state is a litte over $19,000 for in state. My guess is people aren't making the decision to stay in state in Georgia vs going to Michigan because of $7,000 a year but maybe I am wrong.
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Thats certainly possible, but if he had reasonable grades I would think he would make more of a stink about this... but you never know.
My guess is Urbs had get to 85 scholarships and this is what happens due to oversigning. I would bet he would find a way to get him in if he was a 5 star stud everyone was drooling over.
That's right I said stud.
Check this out. LINK It's an atricle from April on cleveland.com explaining how OSU plans to get to 85. From the article:
Also, a source said that one other Ohio State player who committed to this incoming freshman class did not meet academic eligibility requirements set out for him in December and won't be part of the team this year, though it's possible he may enroll in the future. And one other member listed as part of the 27-member Class of 2015 in February is expected to grayshirt. That move would have the player enroll in the winter, after the season, and not count against the scholarship total now.
That's not a good look... the beauty of this being we either get to harp on the SEC for being pathetic academically, scoff at the bucks for oversigning, or both while pointing out SEC school take B10 leftovers...
The kid probably could not spell f-o-u-r s-t-a-r for urbz.
The AJC's article on the subject can be found here - LINK
Naturally, as is normal in these situations, the explanation is crystal clear:
“I don’t know what all went on there behind the scenes there. It just kind of was what it was. I don’t know. I wasn’t admitted to Ohio State. That’s all I know"
They did work in a jab for their former SEC foe Urban Meyer, questioning whether it was academics or if Meyer simply ran out of available scholarships.
It could also just be a function of the way admissions standards are done at various schools. Maybe a difference of interpretation of the validity of certain classes or grades or timing of when he took a standardized test or which test(s) he took or correspondence courses or timing of when he submitted paperwork or whatever.
Doesn't mean he's not academically capable of attending osu, or even Michigan, for that matter. It could've just been a technicality.
MSU is a lot worse academic wise as opposed to Ohio State. In fact, they are in the bottom 2 in the conference. Everytime there is a recruit with grade issues, its never an issue to MSU.
I was wondering the same thing if the OP is implying that "even the worst B10 school..." applies to osu. Academically, even though not quite on par with Michigan, osu is a very good school. Not getting into there for academic reasons isn't that big of a stretch...if he's anything like Dorsey.
I was having some fun and taking a shot at OSU... No need to read into it too much
He couldn't get into Notre Dame either . This looks the the SEC once again taking a dumb kid because he's good at football.
I suggest we have a conversation about academic standards without making personal judgments about the intelligence of the student athlete involved. There are plenty of factors unrelated to intelligence that can explain a student's high school academic peformance.
As an alum of UGA I feel I have to stand up for my adopted home. UGA's academics have improved a lot over the past 15 years. They have kept a lot of talent (academic not football) talent instate because admission is close to free with the HOPE scholarship. That is actually why I choose UGA over Michigan. Terry is an excellent business school and their law program is great as well. They are just not quite at the level of Michigan
Defense accepted, but they still play football and claim that its freezing in Michigan in July so we're going to need to talk a little more trash before letting this go...
To be fair, it was just in the 50's last week. Behold the power of Richt!
When I found out UGA had the #4 graduate program for public administration it was surprising to say the least. Girlfriends family is all from Georgia so it will probably be on the list when I'm applying to public policy/public administration schools.
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This is why when I see kids talking about caring about academics and then going to the SEU I get mad. It doesn't add up.
According to US news which is whatever but an easy baseline OSU is the 18th best public school in the country and Georgia is the 20th, not a huge jump there in terms of the actual academics he will receive while there. Florida and Texas A&M are also in the top 25 of pulbic schools (which is all that really matters here, if it was strict academic rankings, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern etc would be top 10). Plentyt of schools in the sec are in the same academic grouping as big ten schools.
Stop with the education inferiority of other schools. I went to Indiana State so fuck off!
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The 247 guys at georgia claim he wasn't admitted becasue of oversigning, but you can take that with a grain of salt
Here are B1G and SEC world university rankings according to https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014/w…
18 Michigan
22 Northwestern
30 Wisconsin-Madison
46 Minnesota
49 Pennsylvania State
59 Ohio State
62 Purdue
83 Michigan State
88 Vanderbilt
103 Rutgers
108 Maryland, College Park
128 Florida
132 Indiana
159 Texas A&M
161 Iowa
191 Illinois at Urbana-Champagne
251-275 South Carolina
251-275 Nebraska-Lincoln
276-300 Georgia
301-350 Missouri
NR Alabama
NR Arkansas
NR Auburn
NR Kentucky
NR Louisiana State
NR Mississippi
NR Mississippi State
NR Tennessee
The Times probably credits English schools highly, but it should be neutral among US universities. It only ranked down through (in its opinion) the best 400. B1G has eight ranked higher than the isloated best in the SEC; B1G's worst is better than 10 SEC teams.
Is Vandy really that low? I find that pretty surprising, but I've never been there so maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
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more or less the general outline of USNWR list but some surprising differences and outliers. For example UM UCLA and UVA are all clustered in that one but not here. Of course some of the USNWR criteria are financial aid and other non academic factors which I doubt are taken into account here. A big surprise to me is how badly the Ivy League does in this list ( relatively ) vs every other list I have seen
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25% ile to 75% ile of students from 2013 (yeah I know these have changed a little - for everyone)
1. Vandy 32-34
2. NW 31-34
3. Michigan 28-34
4/5. Illinois/ Florida 26-31
6/7/8. Wisky/ OSU/Georgia 26 -30
9. Minnesota 25-30
10/11 Purdue/ Auburn 24- 30
12 Penn St 25-29
13/14 S. Car/ Indiana 24 -29
others
Tex A & M 23-29
Ark 23-28
Bama 22-30
MSU 23-28
LSU 23-28
Nebraska 22-29
Iowa 22-28
Kentucky 22-28
Missouri 21-27
MIssissippi 21-27
Mississippi St 20-28
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that's a technical skill so Georgia Tech is the place for that