OT: Why was Raven's Coach John Harbaugh Upset with Patriot's Off-Balanced Line?

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In yesterday's AFC divisional playoff game the Patriots used an unbalanced line where they lined up an eligible receiver where the left tackle would ordinarily be and an ineligible receiver was split out right. John Harbaugh was pissed that his team wasn't allowed to identify the eligible receivers...

“We wanted an opportunity to be able to ID who the eligible players were, because what they were doing was, they would announce the eligible player, and then time was taken, and they would go over and snap the ball before we even had a chance to figure out who was lined up where. And that was the deception part of it. That was clearly deception.”

 

I'm not familiar with the "announcement" rule he's talking about. Occasionally I've heard officials announce a player is an eligible receiver but don't know why they do it. Doesn't the formation dictate the eligible receivers? Isn't it the defence's responsibility to identify them? I know the NFL has rules about who can wear what numbers; is this what the announcement is for? Does college have the same rules?

I think it's facinating when a team figures out new ways to take advantage of the rules, especially in the NFL. Of course, New England has been known to work outside of the rule book from time-to-time. What was going on here?

Blue in St Lou

January 11th, 2015 at 11:08 AM ^

Almost every instance where I have seen a tackle reported as eligible, the resulting play is a run.  I assume that is why they never mention on a TV broadcast when a tackle reports eligible.   The tackle is "eligible" because of his placement on the line but won't really be a receiver.  But I actually do recall a play during the Rams' "Greatest Show on Turf" days when they threw a TD pass to the eligible tackle.  It must have shocked the defense.
 

schreibee

January 11th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^

Jumbo Elliott caught a few, including one either in OT or to force OT on MNF. I don't know of any T I've ever seen catch more.

There was that former buckeye #50 (I'd remember his name if he'd gone to Michigan!) Brady used to target frequently, but he was a defensive player who'd line up on O to create a mismatch, just like the one everyone's talking about today. They had to announce him eligible because of his jersey #. Anyway, he caught several TDs

johnthesavage

January 11th, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^

Yes but those rules could still be unfair, or unjust. To automatically justify anything as "fair" just because it's within the rules is thoughtless deference to authority.

There are many unfair games, which are nonetheless legal and played for entertainment purposes. For example, blackjack -- the dealer just wins in the long run. It's not fair; the rules codify this advantage. But it is legal and both players regardless agree to the rules.

In football, there's a spirit of fairness between the offense and defense. Tricking the other team by exploiting the officials in a new way and then running your play before the defense has been permitted to identify the ineligible man is just unfair to the defense. There's a reason why offensive linemen wear numbers that identify them as ineligible most of the time. We agree that the defense should be allowed to see who is and who is not eligible. That's fair. This, IMO, wasn't.

JamieH

January 11th, 2015 at 4:13 PM ^

The rules say that if you are going to line up a player with an eligible number in an ineligible position, that player has to report to the officials before the play.  Vereen did so.  If the Ravens can't look at the formation and tell that Vereen is ineligible because he is covered up by the outside receiver (and it IS clear that he is ineligible in that formation if you understand football formations) then the Ravens need to study formation eligibility more.  They are professional football players after all.

If you don't like the rules, then lobby the NFL to change them.  That is what the Ravens will surely do.  Until they change the rules, bitching at the Patriots for creating a trick play that follows the rules is kind of silly.  Are you mad at them for Edelman's pass too?  That was a trick play also. 

Trick plays are part of the game.  Maybe this particular trick play should be shut down or altered by the NFL.  Until it is, there is no reason the Pats (or anyone else) shouldn't run it.   The play is sacrificing a player (Vereen) for the element of surprise.  The Pats were essentially playing 10 on 11 hoping that the Ravens would be confused enough that it would work.  It did.  All it takes is for the defense to recognize what is going on and the play will get shut down, because then you will have 11 defenders on 10 offensive guys. 

NRK

January 11th, 2015 at 11:56 PM ^

Yeah, and in zone blitzes the DL dropping back into coverage should have to raise his hand and clearly identify himself as not rushing. Give me a break, the idea that there should be a tea party where the offense lets the defense get all organized and ready for a good ol' time chap? is nonsense. Trick plays, hurry up offense, etc. This is a game of strategy, and it requires you abide by the rules, not accommodate the other team.

CRISPed in the DIAG

January 11th, 2015 at 11:18 AM ^

The Ravens were disorganized on defense the entire game. Too much patchwork in the secondary. The Pats were using tempo the entire game. The ineligible/eligible complaints are the least of John's worries.

lunchboxthegoat

January 11th, 2015 at 11:30 AM ^

by John Harbaugh. If this "deception" in cheap then so is the triple option (which is being deployed in the nfl again), so is the play action pass and so is the double move. In college this would be seen as "innovative" and "out scheming the opponent." the nfl, apparently wants you to approach the line, state your intentions to the defense, allow them to adjust then execute.

ShadowStorm33

January 11th, 2015 at 1:20 PM ^

That's what I was wondering. Football has some fairly complex rules, but this isn't one of them. Honestly, refs announcing tackle eligible seems like a huge accommodation, and I thought eligible/ineligible numbers were only for the refs' sake to help determine ineligible players down field. Ravens D wasn't paying attention, plain and simple...

Baughhumbug

January 12th, 2015 at 3:21 AM ^

Yes, the mechanics of the rule are quite easy. 30 seconds on Google and you know all you need to know. That's not the issue here. Guys on the field simply don't line up in a straight line right on the line of scrimmage. It's not easy to quickly identify which 7 guys are "on the line." Sometimes guys are less than half a step back. It's hard to tell who's on and who's off. Watch an offensive series, you'll see what I mean. NOW keep in mind that the TV camera gives us a perfect, aerial view right down the line of scrimmage. Ideal for seeing every players' exact placement in relation to the line of scrimmage. Instead, imagine yourself on the field, facing the line of scrimmage. Who is half a step back? Now put a mask on your face and a bunch of guys in the way. Harder to see it clearly, no? The fact that one of the Pats players had to actively notify the ref that he was ineligible, and the ref was required to notify the other team of the same, should tell you that it's just not as easy as it looks. EDIT: That being said, I'm completely in the "it's fair" camp. Nothing to stop Harbaugh from doing the same thing -- except that he didn't think of it or prepare his guys for it.

johnthesavage

January 11th, 2015 at 2:49 PM ^

This is true but in practice, the difference between where a receiver on the line and off the line stands is pretty small. Offensive linemen are frequently lined up what looks like more than a yard behind the line of scrimmage but this is tolerated. From the perspective of the defense it is not always obvious who is on the line and who is behind it. And if it's close, it's generally not called as an illegal formation anyway, so you leave men uncovered at your own risk.

Mr. Robot

January 11th, 2015 at 1:55 PM ^

I can't believe people are mad about this and think it is dirty for being "deceptive."

Other common football things that are deceptive and designed to throw the defense off:

Play action

Pump fakes

Hard counts

Fake punts

Fake field goals

Pretty much any trick play

They are all perfectly legal, and if the NFL thought they were too mean, they would eliminate them. New England did something unique that Baltimore wasn't ready for, and that is nobody's fault but Baltimore's. They could have called a timeout, or they could make sure the guys they pay millions to play defense every year can identify eligibility based on formation, especially when there is announcement that someone else is checking in as eligible, which immediately indicates somebody else must not be.

BLHoke

January 11th, 2015 at 2:13 PM ^

It's not on the Pats to enforce the rules. Also, players cheat and try to find advantages every play. As always, it's up to officiating to maintain order. This would be like Detroit or its coaches blaming Dallas for last week's fiasco. Nobody attacks coaches and players when a hold or a push off results in a successful play or score. Lastly, I don't think that ONE non scoring play resulted in the Ravens losing this game, but I digress.

DrMantisToboggan

January 11th, 2015 at 2:30 PM ^

It was great to see my Pats and TB12 pull it out last night. John might be part of the royal family, but really needs to quit the bitchin. Pats were within the rules and giving the defense time to adjust is not part of this great game, see: Hurry Up Offense

BayWolves

January 11th, 2015 at 2:46 PM ^

Innovation is part of the game. Everyone will be doing this soon enough and it will no longer be a novelty. Then when the next innovative coaching move comes people will bitch about that until that too is copied, and so on.



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CoverZero

January 11th, 2015 at 5:01 PM ^

Just calling it like it is:  Despite having the last name of "Harbaugh"...John was completely out-coached and schooled by Bill Belichick.  Harbaugh should only be upset with himself for not preparing his team for that type of formation. 

The Patriots followed the rules to the letter, and the refs announced the player.  This type of play, btw has also been used by Nick Saban at Alabama with great results.

 

Belichick and Saban are good friends....and often share info and strategies. 

CoverZero

January 11th, 2015 at 5:06 PM ^

I just googled Belichick and unbalanced lines and found this indepth interview from last September.  Harbaugh should have done the same thing, or have had his scouts tip him off.  Had he prepared his defense, he may have stopped the play:

"“I think it’s hard to be in an unbalanced line and just run one or two plays because you don’t know if the defense is going to move over or not move over, rotate away from the formation passing strength, rotate to it,” Belichick continued. “But, if you have a number of plays then no matter what (defenses) do, then theoretically, just like everything else in your offense, you can (determine), ‘If they do this, we do that. If they do that, we do this.’”

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/19/soccis-notebook-education-from-a-…

ca_prophet

January 11th, 2015 at 5:23 PM ^

Vareen is a covered receiver - he could be wearing any number and still wouldn't be be eligible. Normally if that happens, that means there aren't exactly seven on the line, and hence you'll get an illegal formation flag. The TE lined up at the normal LT spot reported as eligible, so he is the EMOL on the left and can go downfield. The thing is, if the Ravens had just seen Vareen was covered, they could have had their rush DE coming in untouched on Brady through the nominal LT spot, or running over the receiver you designed the formation around. That's why this is a gimmick play and not something you bust out all day. Anyway, the Pats did their part, and the Ravens could have turned this into a huge advantage for themselves, but didn't.