Wolvie3758

April 11th, 2014 at 3:30 PM ^

Beliens system allows a GOOD Big man to flourish..with all the attention drawn to the guards how many dunks and pic n rolls did u see this tournament and for that matter all year long. Horford has to admit that maybe hes not all that talented..I hate the way he hurt recruiting on the way out the door. but if hes unhappy by all means leave..I wish him well just think its a what about ME? mentality...its not about any one two or three players its allllllll about MICHIGAN...and winning FOR MICHIGAN

alum96

April 11th, 2014 at 3:29 PM ^

Probably as interested was Mitch already made up his mind before the draft advisory results came back.  I am not sure which way that makes him lean but interesting.

"I'm not at liberty to speak about it now, but I already know what Mitch is going to do. Mitch has already told me. (His decision), though, wasn't a factor in my decision."

 

Mr. Yost

April 11th, 2014 at 3:48 PM ^

Horford to UCF to play for Al's old coach Donnie Jones.

Donnie knows Michigan as their best player Isaiah Sykes is from Detroit and was named after Isiah Thomas. UCF is about 2 hours from Gainesville I believe. UCF is the 2nd largest school in the country so they'll have no problem finding him a major.

Jones took Tom Herzog from MSU a few years back and he had a solid year.

UCF runs Horford's style of offense...and most importantly. UCF has plenty of PT to offer.

In my random prediction based off of nothing other than what I've put together...Horford to UCF. Book it.

btjabrone

April 11th, 2014 at 3:52 PM ^

I am slightly more worried about the Mitch McGary comment than others seem to be.  If Mitch has really made his decision, doesn't that suggest he is leaving?  If he already decided to stay for another year, why wouldn't he have already said that?  If he has already decided, but is keeping the decision quiet, that makes me nervous.  (Then again, the Horford transfer does, to me, suggest Mitch is returning.)

Erik_in_Dayton

April 11th, 2014 at 5:17 PM ^

...is that he's consistently more plugged into the football program than he is the basketball program.  People here have said he's friends with Chris Singletary.  I don't know whether that's true, but it might explain how he would be closer to the football team (assuming he doesn't have an equivalent friend in the basketball program). 

Ty Butterfield

April 11th, 2014 at 3:58 PM ^

Still think Mitch and GRIII are leaving. Sad to see Horford leave but if he thinks it is what is best for him then I wish him the best.

mackbru

April 11th, 2014 at 4:08 PM ^

Of course it means he knows Mitch is staying. Horford wants minutes -- that's his main goal. If Mitch leaves, Horford is a starter. No way he leaves there. Obviously, once he learned Mitch was staying, Horford bolted -- especially since Donnal will eat up a lot of "big" minutes as well. This is a no-brainer. Players aren't that complicated. I can't believe some people think otherwise.

blueblueblue

April 11th, 2014 at 4:21 PM ^

I dont think we can read anything in that article about Mitch. My reading is that Jon feels he took a chance the past 4 years regarding getting the playing time he believes he needs and deserves, and didnt get it. Going forward, he is not taking any more chances. Staying in a guard-oriented system is, to him, too much of a risk after the past 4 years. For Horford, its about managing risk, no matter if he is competing with Mitch or a totem pole. Staying in Belein's 'system' is too much of a risk for him. He sees himself having one more shot at the NBA, and he has to maximize his opportunity to get there.  

I personally think Mitch is gone. 

jsquigg

April 11th, 2014 at 4:21 PM ^

I respect Jon Horford a lot and wish the best for the kid, but I'd be surprised if he was a major contributor anywhere else next year.  Whatever his reasons for leaving, he wasn't going to get more playing time than he would if he stayed with Michigan.  The sad thing is that he could've had a Morganesque season next year by choosing to stay.  Oh well, I hope it works out for him.

TheCool

April 11th, 2014 at 4:35 PM ^

Hilarious read. Horford's family has finally convinced him that he deserves what he doesn't. They must think he's a better player than how he plays. If we could have the starting five with Morgan play the starting five with Horford, Horford's team would lose by 15 to 20. The team was that much worse with him on the floor. Both McGary and Morgan have developed and had huge impacts on the offense. And I wouldn't give Horford the ball in the post either because he didn't get high percentage shots.

Jobu

April 11th, 2014 at 4:44 PM ^

I'm sorry but Horford got plenty of chances. He was missing bunnies left and right and was subpar defensively. Think he's taking a cheap shot at Beilein. The system is fine, Horford just isn't very good.

cbs650

April 11th, 2014 at 5:32 PM ^

you do realize JMO was missing bunnies and at times couldnt catch the ball but this year blossomed into what he was because he was on the floor not looking over his shoulder. I dont think he was taking a cheap shot at beilein. that system is very guard oriented. truth is truth. that is why we can land guards/wing forwards but have trouble landing a true center (McGary may be the only one)

2Eazy812

April 11th, 2014 at 4:59 PM ^

Hey everyone. I've been a long time reader, never really thought about posting anything until now. If you go back and watch the UK game you can clearly tell Horford was out of his league. He made marcus lee look like a superstar. He is to slow on his feet, he side to side movement was even slower. He never once boxed out Lee, if he had we would have won that game. Not knocking the kid at all, he just isnt on the same level as his dad or his bother. Good luck to him whereever he goes. THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT!

JamieH

April 12th, 2014 at 12:56 AM ^

Horford was completely out of his league against Kentucky.  Now, considering he was our BACKUP center, playing against future NBA draft picks, there was nothing to be ashamed of.  But for him to then act like he was getting some raw deal at Michigan because he wasn't playing more, c'mon.  Kentucky abused him out there and made him look like the backup center that he currently is.  Did I want him back next year?   Absolutely.  Did I want him to keep working to get better?  Absolutely.  But do I feel like he's gotten some raw deal because he's been behind J-Mo and McGary on the depth chart and isn't exactly a top option on offense?  Absolutely not.

Wolverine91

April 11th, 2014 at 5:55 PM ^

Ha! He's so full of it! Bottom line, forget what he said about coach B's system, it's great for bigs and better for guards. He feels slighted bc he knows mcgary is comin back and knows with Mitch and donnal, chances are that Jon doesn't play much. Thanks for ur services, but, understandably u want more minutes and are not gonna get it here! Also, I'm sure that if coach knows Mitch isn't comin back, he would've tried a little harder to keep horford around.

denardogasm

April 11th, 2014 at 6:47 PM ^

It kinda rubs me the wrong way that his family have been telling him to transfer for FOUR years.  Although I do think his departure and statement about McGary's decision mean McGary is coming back, it's possible Beilein told him he would be splitting time with Donnal and he just wants starter's minutes.  If he was going to get that here I don't see why he'd transfer.  McGary has shown it's possible to be an animal in Beilein's system.

Michigania

April 11th, 2014 at 8:52 PM ^

Rubs me the wrong way, too. One, Horford shouldnt have disclosed the bit about his family telling him to transfer for four years. Plus, if his sister said that stuff then his thinking cannot be too far from it, otherwise he rightly wouldve debunked it. I was a big supporter of him but not after those comments.

UMgradMSUdad

April 11th, 2014 at 7:03 PM ^

Horford has devoted four years to the team, and that's a credit to him, especially with the (what seems to me to be bad) advice coming from his family.  Who knows though, maybe they're right and he will blossom into an NBA caliber player with enough playing time.

ca_prophet

April 11th, 2014 at 8:12 PM ^

... But I'm bemused by the comments to the effect of "it's not the system, he's no good, he's making a mistake 'cause he'd get minutes here". If he's no good, why do you care if he transfers? If he's really not good enough for you, he should definitely go somewhere he can get starters minutes and get better. And if he is good enough, you're basically casting aspersions on a guy because you don't like the reality in front of him. That would be a sad way to go through life. Personally, I think he's likely to be a solid but not spectacular on ball defender who will be overmatched by bigger and stronger posts ... Of course, there aren't a lot of those. He probably has a low post move or two that he can use to be a solid option at the offensive end as well, but he wouldn't be better than the eighth option in A2 even if none of our Big Three come back. If he wants to develop and showcase that he should leave - simple as that. We'll miss him and hope he does well except against us.

AlwaysBlue

April 12th, 2014 at 10:35 AM ^

if he stayed there was the hope he might do one thing consistently well in terms of rebounding and/or defense. Reading that he's frustrated over his lack of opportunities on the offensive end given his all around deficiencies leads to the criticisms.

twgolf19

April 11th, 2014 at 10:04 PM ^

I'm sure coach B would have let him play through mistakes had he been our best big. Not going to put a lesser player in there making mistakes and set a better player down. Thanks for the 4 years. Good luck elsewhere. Seems like the family blames michigan for him not being as good a player as his brother.

michiganfanforlife

April 12th, 2014 at 12:25 AM ^

I also still think all three are going to the NBA. Frankly, I was looking forward to having another 5th year senior center as a starter. Playing for Michigan next year with good odds of a B1G champ ring and a deep run in the tourney would be really good advertising for his basketball future. This hurts, and it's worse that he's saying that his lack of production is coach's fault. What a crock of slimy worm feces. This dude, as stated above, has Europe written all over him. He went to the National Championship game and Elite 8 and now he's leaving?? Have fun watching Michigan in the tourney next year from home, dude. I wish him luck but it's a Big mistake for him, his family and his career IMO.

NFG

April 12th, 2014 at 1:29 AM ^

IMO, this season he was a momentum killer. Wasn't physical, no post moves and slow on defense. Not trying to attack him personally, but hopefully he can find a small college to perform at to his expectations against lesser opponents.

ChelseaRick

April 12th, 2014 at 8:03 AM ^

As some have said, Jon's decision to leave is selfish.  It is completely selfish on Jon's part to leave Michigan.  BUT, there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.  Jon stayed all 4 years in a system that wasn't ideal for him while being told all along by his family to transfer.

I do not fault Jon one bit for leaving.  He committed to Michigan and stayed his 4 years.  It isn't like he's leaving early, he graduates next month.  He's honored his commitment.  As Coach B said, "No harm, no foul".  Coach B's response is simply perfect.

Good luck to Jon and best wishes. 

steve sharik

April 12th, 2014 at 11:08 AM ^

...was almost sure to be defensive in nature.  First, Beilein and his staff have often commented on JMo's ability to direct the defense and never spoke one word about Horford's ability to do the same.  Second, the eye test on Horford defending a ball screen showed me how late and slow he was to recover to the big after flashing to the ball.  And I don't think it's coincidence that UK rebounded over 60% of its misses in a game where JMo was in foul trouble.  Third, it's reflected in the +/-: JMo avg. +/- per game was 6.4; Horford, 3.5.