Just confusing and whatever. No words. Only thing I can say is I was hoping at least that they’d start throwing downfield and test Collins Black and DPJ and Ronnie Bell- let them make plays. Pu t the ball up there and let them go get it. Why can’t they do that more?? Draw a PI also. Those guys could not handle Collins. He’s a giant. Throw it up to him. 

This game is on the whole team- coaches included. But it could have gone much differently as far as momentum. 

After we got punched with that first TD, we answered and got down inside the ten with one play. So I’m thinking- we answered. This is it. Next play- Shea to Collins in the end zone- OVERTHROWN!! OMG he overthrew the tallest guy on the field. Next play- fumble.  Game momentum shifted. 

Didn't get much help from replay booth on the next drive. How does that get reversed? Great catch and you punish the guy for his effort. Don’t matter if that’s Ohio or State or us- that’s a BS reversal. Stopped us again when we could have come back. Next drive for them- Taylor TD run- game over. 

A lot needs to be addressed. Defense for sure. Somehow, Don Brown’s defense doesn’t work well without Winovich and Bush. So bad looking. What are they practicing for and preparing for for two weeks. Ugh.

Thankfully- Rutgers is next. Just what we need to try and get the train on the tracks again. Please guys get your sh** together or my football season is sadly over.

Going to give it a good 5 days before I come back to hopefully a less melt-downy toxic board. 

Did the team play poorly? Absolutely. Did they have the wind knocked out of their sails on the type of call reversal (Bell's long phenomenal catch) that really gets to young kids (the kind where everyone watching knows the refs just jobbed them)? sure.  Did I see "hands to the (Michigan) face" on virtually the next four plays after Michigan's dubious hands to the face call? Did I see a Quinten Z's 4th down conversion where he went out of bounds fumbling the ball, not even reviewed? yeah. Did they not call holding in the end zone on a play that virtually ended Michigan's drive? Yeah. Still...

Did Michigan turn it over four times. Yep. They also forgot their assignments/lanes so many times it wasn't funny. I don't know what happened internally, but I know they have the pieces to fix it, provided DPJ and Zack actually get healthy. This game, while a disaster, was so close to being different on so many levels. 

I'll just leave with this and let the snowflakes neg away: 

Honestly if Michigan has to lose a conference game this year, I hope its to Wisconsin. On the road, non-division, and we would have a chance to redeem ourselves in the B1G championship.

I question whether JH gives a shit or not. He is not the fiery Stanford or 49ers guy. He hasn't been for a while. I think he is broken.

Can not wait to drive four hours for the game next week.  Might actually be competitive this year.

I will echo the sentiments of many here. I just can’t be engaged with this football team anymore. I will check in on the games occasionally, but it is not worth my sanity. 

Man did I think Harbaugh was going to be our Saban, yes without question. He was my wolverine growing up and given his success at other stops I really thought he would have this thing humming by now. However, it seems It is not meant to be. Today we seemed as unprepared as I have ever seen them under him. I really wonder if we can ever be what we were when I was growing up and I think the answer is no. I thought he was a great motivator and got players to play over their ability, but it does not seem so. He is no Bo or anything close when it comes to motivation. It will probably be a couple years before anything is done though. so whatevs. Basketball is around the corner. 

Good thing we are a baseball school.

Name how many years W out recruited M in the last 5?  I’m sick of hearing about all of it. Who squanders more talent? 

Now Harbaugh has Ryan Day set up to look all world    

Pathetic

There's no way to spin this, unlike the Army game.

There were tons of issues and a bunch of posters wrote them off as a 'one off' because it was Army.

The reality was laid bare today however: this is a team that has talent but is poorly coached on both sides of the ball..

the only benefit to this beat down is that everyone in the program needs to do some soul searching or this season will end up at 7-5 

It is not too soon to ask the question. I have been firmly on the side of giving Jim time...but I am no longer on his side of the fence. If we lose to OSU this year, after the way this season has started, I would he in favor of moving on.

Fire Harbaugh today...appoint Brown interim coach and start a HC search immediately.   The last 5 games played we have been completely unprepared!

I agree with every part of this writeup, except for the part where you say that it is too soon to ask The Big Question.  It's not too soon.  It's time. We're experiencing a hybrid version of 2010 and 2014 right now.  Terrible coaching, a soft team, and hope is already gone before we even hit October. 

On the positive side, that disaster only registered 3.6 Roentgens. 

*Work with me here. If I’m not laughing I’m crying. 

You can blame everyone for this fiasco.  Offense still can’t get it together.  Whatever the defensive game plan was, it wasn’t a good one.  Players didn’t step up and make plays.  Bad tackling confusion at times on offense and defense, and another first drive fumble.  What are the odds of fumbling on your first series in 3 straight games?

They need to have a collective come to Jesus meeting of the team and coaches and decide what they want to do with the rest of the season.  Rutgers provides a good punching bag to work through their frustrations.

I’ve been less emotionally invested in Michigan football since Rich Rod.  Don’t think I could take this, otherwise.

I’m sure this will be an unpopular opinion given what transpired today, but we do have ample evidence that Jim Harbaugh is a good coach. Whether that’s completely rebuilding Stanford, getting the 49ers to the Super Bowl or rescuing Michigan from the RR/Hoke eras. 

Less than a year ago, Michigan played 3 consecutive ranked teams. 

They won 38-13, 21-7, and 42-7 in games that weren’t that close. They were ranked #4 in the country and going into Columbus as favorites. 

My best guess: Harbaugh hires Gattis to revolutionize the offense as he sees how successful the “speed in space” shit is. But, Gattis has never coordinated before and is still figuring stuff out. He’s working with a QB who has the physical talent, but lacks the mental part of being elite. Harbaugh is wary when he sees how things progress and tries to exert some control. Now, the players are confused.

On defense they lose Gary, Winovich, Mone, Bush, Long, and Kinnel. Aubrey Solomon doesn’t pan out and suddenly you have to put Ben Mason in at DT. You recruit a bunch of LBs and two transfer so Jordan Glasgow starts. You try to get creative to make up the talent gap and sometimes it backfires.

It’s a combination of things, but I’m hesitant to fire a guy whose had Michigan in the playoff picture until the final week in half of his seasons and took a 5-7 team to 10-3 in one of the other seasons.

Those who stay will be...graduates.

Only good news ?  My Saturday’s are now totally free for fall golf and we just planned a trip to France so there is no way we can watch the ND game.  We are working on how to avoid OSU weekend but that is more difficult given family T-day obligations.   

"when do we ask The Big Question that it's still too soon to ask no matter what's said on sports talk radio this week?"

Don't be condescending, Ace. You come off like a douche making statements like this in spite of all the recent evidence that Harbaugh is losing his grip on this program. I hope like hell he turns this ship around but things are bad NOW and only appear to be getting worse. It's not too soon to acknowledge the state of the program and start to at least ask "how long of a leash does Harbaugh have?".