The B1G may be trying to add Oklahoma and Texas

This is only about money.

From a sporting perspective in is terrible.

16 (or are we heading for 20?) team conferences make no sense in terms of sport.

The pro leagues divide into smaller divisions for obvious good reasons. 

Once you get above a certain limited number, the scheduling makes no sense.  

The conf "champion" and placings become irrational due to teams nominally in the same conference not playing close to all others in the conference, etc. 

Placings in the divisions of these giant conferences (14 is already giant and too big) becomes too dependent on who you did or did not play cross-division. 

Scheduling problems also damage conference rivalries (such as Michigan plays Minnesota occasionally but plays Rutgers and Maryland every year--subtraction by addition!). 

Just bonkers from a sporting perspective.

If the NCAA wants to see interesting intersectional games (Michigan-Texas OSU-Oklahoma etc.) then mandate 10 team geographically based conferences (no divisions), and also mandate that these smaller conferences schedule intersectional rivalries across conferences. 

I get that people (and by that I mean the money guys) want to see things like Michigan-Texas games.  But there are MUCH smarter ways to see that than moving to totally irrational 16 to 20 school conferences. 

But I guess Delaney wants to be able to sell media rights for a 16 (eventually 20) team conference. 

It would be great to have two more solid teams in the B1G, but this is getting out of hand.  Rutgers and Maryland were ridiculous, but with Penn St. in the conference, you could squint your eyes at the map and sort of make an argument that they were geographically contiguous.  Some dude came out with a book that claimed there were 11 nations in the U.S.   Call me a regionalist, but I liked that the Big Ten was the league of "Yankeedom" and "The Midlands" despite a few schools being in "Greater Appalachia."  (aka Cooler-Poopers.)   We were the Norris Division. 

Now Austin a small bastion of civilization in Texas, but the conference expansion is getting out of hand.  Oklahoma and Rutgers in the same League?   Even in pro football, Green Bay, the Bears, Lions and Vikings are our football teams.  This is sort of the equivalents of the guys who decided to root for the Cowboys in the 90's.  (Choose who you want in the playoffs, but root for your local team in the regular season.)

I just don't see how it would work, especially with Texas and its Longhorn Network. While I don't know all of the logistics, I'm guessing the Big Ten would tell Texas that to join the conference, they have to drop the Longhorn Network and go to BTN, which Texas just isn't going to do. There has to be way too much money tied up for them to make a move like that. 

The only way I could see them leaving the Big XII is that everyone else is jumping ship and they don't want to be left out in the cold without a conference to play in. Although Texas might be the one other team in America outside of ND that could get away with being an independent. 

They should get most of the old Southwest Conference back together if this happens.

I would prefer Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Texas is a pain in the ass to deal with, and is pretty much the reason why there's been a mass exodus from the Big XII in recent years.

Still waiting for the plan to get rid of Rutgers and Maryland. How is that going to play out? 

Why doesn't the Big Ten do nothing and just say that all these other teams are in the Big Ten?

What difference does it make?  We'll never play half of them anyway.

The CFP would have to expand, and also not be decided by just committee votes.

Otherwise this new Big Ten "super league" is going to beat itself up just to get only one team out of Michigan / Ohio State / Penn State / Nebraska / Oklahoma / Texas into the Playoff.

Meanwhile, the SEC is going to always be under serious consideration for multiple slots.

This new Big Ten "super league" would need to be guaranteed 2 teams in the expanded CFP.

Either that, or keep the CFP at 4, but allow only one team per conference to get in.  This would make the conference championship game a direct play-in into the CFP.

From reading the link, it seems that the Longhorn Network - long the sticking point of any conference moves is viewed as not an important factor. That is a surprising conclusion.

If that is true (never underestimate the egocentricity of other people) why wouldn't the Big 12 find a way to cut a deal? This seems like that sort of dreamy what if "thought experiment" piece that pops up in the off season.

Shoulda done this instead of Rutger/Maryland, but Texas probably needed some time with the Longhorn Network to see what they'll be giving up...

Just make the Big10 West the Current Big12 and Make the Big10 the Big10 East. Dissolve the Big12 and create the 1st SuperConference

Can the "esteemed" FBS just drop their collective arrogance and do the same format as the FCS. More conferences with less teams, round robins, best records of the bunch wins each conference, winners of each make the playoff, and if playoff was extended to 16 teams like FCS, just let collective records and tie breakers decide who gets in. College football with all of its crap eye test ranking systems has been the problem all along. Never seems to be a clear cut champion, some other team always has an argument. For goodness sakes Bama claims like 23 championships or something. We claim 11 and could a couple more. Just stupid. Just level the playing field like EVERY other sport in America. 

TV ad rates FOX Sports have been able to pass on to its customers indicate the network is “all in” on Big Ten Live Sport Content now and in the future, BTM told Flugaur. Given that, both FOX Sports and the Big Ten Conference want more and are working in tandem to get it.

They pretty much just come right out and say this is all about grabbing more cash.

They could not care less if this is in the best interest of the fans, or is in any interest of the fans.

Get ready for commercials in the middle of punts with a long hang time.

Seemed inevitable this is how it would go from the moment the conference turned down adding up and coming G5 programs that could have strengthened the conference's depth. Oklahoma and Texas are going to go somewhere else and there's no point adding more mouths to feed in the meantime.

I personally think Texas will probably end up in the Pac 12 instead though, the Pac 12 is more desperate and Texas' bullshit won't be put up with in the Big 10. The one thing you can say about Delany that is positive is that there isn't any placating of the big schools, it's an all for one deal. Texas don't like equality, they want preferential treatment.

There's no point getting upset about stuff like this, we passed the point of doing that when they added Maryland/Rutgers. I think it'd be cool to revive the Nebraska/Oklahoma rival in the Big 10. 

Well, that's one approach to the 4 team playoff format. Kill one of the P5 conferences, and reduce the odds of your champion being left out.

I would imagine that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are a package deal. They're both public schools, and I don't think the State of Oklahoma would be okay with leaving Oklahoma State out to dry while Oklahoma bolts for greener pastures. Also, T. Boone Pickens is one of the most powerful boosters/donors in all of college athletics outside of Oregon, and he might throw his weight around to try to prevent Oklahoma from leaving the Big XII without taking Oklahoma State with it.

The way I always heard the story told was the Oklahoma was a strong possibility but that they wanted to get away from Texas it makes sense to put Oklahoma and Nebraska back together but both Texas and Oklahoma would have to join the West

I don't understand the point of having a conference that big and powerful.

If we’re going toward 16 team conference in which we will almost never play half of the schools, wouldn’t everyone be happier with this scenario?:

bring back the original Big 10 and original Big 8, and instead of a conference championship game, have the conference champions play each other as a 1st playoff to get into the final 4 ncaa championship. 

Texas just doesn’t seem like a possibility due to their TV deal (same as Notre Dame). OK and OKstate are realistic. 16 team conference and conference champion would be same as 8 team playoff if the other conferences follow suit and leave ND out

How would adding those two teams to our conference benefit Michigan in any way?

Yeah, because that'd be great. Gives Jim Harbaugh the opportunity to make the crucible scheduling he's donned to be made even tougher. Drop Purdue and Minnesota, and play Texas and Oklahoma.

Iowa, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, Penn St, Michigan St, and be so beat up at the end of the season that Ohio St can ring up 70. 

ABSOLUTELY!!

But you HAVE TO keep the divisions, makes sense geographically, competitively and allow the B1G West to recruit in Texas since they are at a significant disadvantage with their limited recruiting footprint.

How many more games of the West could watch when: Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Iowa play each other most every year?

Plus, THAT would be a recording setting B!G championship viewership game!

EAST:   Michigan, OSU, Penn State, Michigan State, Purdue, Maryland, Indiana, Rutger

WEST:  Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, Illinois 

OSU and Oklahoma are NOT bound together anymore (change of thinking).

I think the B1G overlooks Oklahoma academics when paired with Texas and all those two would bring, especially with Oklahoma's football success. 

It also brings or keep some historically important rivalries going!

Plus Texas was the big dog in the Big XII, with the B1G there are plenty of other big dogs to keep it in line. 

And that would put us on more competitive footing with the SEC

It would be interesting to see how Kyler Murray (or the likes of in 2024) would do in a 42F shit storm in AA in early November.

The first true super conference.  Coming out of that conference as champion no doubt yields a golden ticket to the CFP, which is what this is probably all about.

Will never happen.

Haven't seen anything out of Texas or Okla. about wanting to move and that makes it a B10 pipe dream