footballguy

November 18th, 2018 at 4:32 PM ^

To everybody saying 72's leg moves into Chase step:

1. Who takes steps that small?

2. 72's leg moves VERTICALLY, not laterally. The leg moves down, not to the side. It's pretty obvious.

3. Chase digs in a second time before removing his foot from his calf

It does not condone dirty plays by IU players, but I think we need to be objective about this. 

olsont

November 18th, 2018 at 4:58 PM ^

As a diehard Michigan fan I purposely try not to get biased.  To respond:

1.  Look at Chase's steps after he steps on the linemen,  hint they are all small steps, maybe they just look small but they look similar length

2.  Look at the clip before Chase steps on the linemen, his leg moves laterally once and it looks like it does it again right before the step, especially since he puts weight on his R arm, which would mean he was leaning more to the right.

3. I really think he kinda stumbles but it is so hard to say

Now watching it about 60 times I am not sure,  but I wouldn't vilify someone on this 1 small clip. I would look at his history and see if he has a record of this behavior.   Is there any other evidence?  I though he specifically only verbally abused.

jakerblue

November 18th, 2018 at 5:10 PM ^

It doesn’t look great. But it’s not super obvious it was intentional. the first step on the leg does look on purpose which would be real shitty and a dirty move. But the first step causes chase to stumble so anything after is because of that.

Could definitely see how the IU player would think it was on purpose and would take offense. Still doesn’t give him the right to retaliate like he did to two different players. Couple that with the hit on Edwards and it makes IU look pretty bad. 

footballguy

November 18th, 2018 at 6:34 PM ^

Because his leg does not move into Chase's stride, jackass. And stride matters because it can show if it was intentional or not. How does that not register with you?

If Chase was taking a normal stride and the guys leg moved into his stride, it could look accidental. Chase takes the equivalent of a quarter step for him, onto the guy's leg that doesnt move its location. Therefore, Chase clearly intentional stepped on him

Arb lover

November 18th, 2018 at 6:41 PM ^

Man we are over-analyzing the bejeebuz out of this. 

I forget who said it, but after they did I went back and yeah, it actually looks like the IU player starts to get up and that puts Chase off balance, he sort of trips, because he's still trying to get up, and so he puts his foot down early. He doesn't grind it or hold it on, and steps off soon as he can. Nothing to see on this one. I mean, really? That's all you got IU?

SD Larry

November 18th, 2018 at 7:06 PM ^

Getting back to the thread, still hoping for the best, not sure the tweet means he is playing in Columbus next week, but sounds very encouraging, and is way better than things looked yesterday.  Will be great if Chase can play.  Nobody deserves it more.   

drjaws

November 18th, 2018 at 7:10 PM ^

The IU fan on here crying and shit-posting is hilarious.

All this time spent spamming this comment and video on multiple threads here (and likely multiple other social media platforms) and still no one cares.

Sten Carlson

November 18th, 2018 at 8:46 PM ^

Ok IU guy, here’s my take after watching the clip on Twitter way too many times and becoming more and more enraged about 72’s bullshit.  

In the clip we see Chase with his right hand on the turf and his right knee above the turf.  We cannot see 72, nor Chase’s left leg, knee, nor hand as Bush and Gil obstruct our view.  As Gil and Bush move apart, we see 72’s butt and legs and Chase now has his right hand and knee on the turf to the right (our left) of 72’s right leg, his left knee to the left of 72’s right leg, and seemingly (because we cannot see it) his left hand on the turf to the left of 72’s left hip.  Also, we see that Marshall’s right knee is right next to Chase’s left knee and 72’s left foot is on Marshall’s thigh.  Basically, 72 is face down with Chase straddling his right leg with both Chase and Marshall’s knees between his legs — kind of an awkward position.  

But, from the looks of it, Chase is making an attempt to keep from falling on 72, hence the hands down on the turf as his momentum carries him forward.  This is where things get really going.  It looks to me as if 72 might have made a quick upward and leftward (to our right) move with his right heel into Chase’s crotch — notice how Chase’s butt kind of goes up a bit as in, “oh shit, my balls!”  Chase then start to get up, puts his left hand on 72’s left hamstring/butt cheek and we see 72’s big white shoe come quickly back to the right (our left) and crash into Chase’s right shin.  This is clear, and not speculative like the ball kicking, as we see Chase’s right leg bow outward from the blow.  

Moments later we see Chase quickly rise up and 72’s big left shoe slide off Marshall’s right thigh (as he gets up too). Now again, speculation, but it looks to me as if Chase quickly pulls his left foot (the one he’s about to step forward with) away from 72’s left shoe — maybe 72 was trying to kick with his other foot too?  One thing is certain, when Chase steps on 72’s right ankle 72’s foot is still against Chase’s right shin.  

From there, Chase’s head starts to come up — he wasn’t directly looking at 72 — and he steps on his ankle.  Was it intentional? I think so.  But, I think he was kicked twice (once in the balls) and possibly an attempted 3rd time, and he wanted 72’s big old shit kicker off his shin so he stepped on it.

Personally, I feel like had it not been intentional he’d have given a little, “oh shit!” hop like one would do when stepping on dog shit.  I don’t blame him one bit for stepping on 72’s ankle, and when 21-22 years old I’d have done the same thing.  72 is a meathead, cheap shot artist, as we saw throughout the game.  He knows he kicked Chase in the nuts and shin, so he shouldn’t be surprised he got stepped on.  But, for that matter, Chase shouldn’t be surprised, after stepping on his ankle, that the guy cheaped him given the chance — that’s what cheapshot artists, they cheap you first and when you cheap them back, they use that as fuel to keep on cheaping you.  

Fuck 72 and fuck IU.  They clearly came out intent upon hurting our chances to win the B10 — not by beating us — by playing dirty bullshit with hopes of causing injuries.  

Mgoczar

November 18th, 2018 at 9:15 PM ^

I hope he can play ! Can't go out like that. I fear he is being a great teammate but that he is injured and not playing next weekend. Prove me wrong chase ! Go Blue!