Not one of, the most athletic. He won every single combine drill among OL in that spring comebine last year.
Hopefully he isn’t the Brandon Inge of the team. Inge was so athletic he could dunk a basketball, kick a 50 yard FG, hit a golf ball 400 yards...he could do just about anything athletically except hit a baseball.
Maybe he has two left feet?
Because in all reality, LT and RT are very different positions. Being good at one doesn’t mean you’d be good at the other.
But in the video game a guy who's a 90 at right tackle is an 88 at left tackle, so it works the same way in real life, doesn't it?
I don't have any scientific proof but I believe they are about the same, except 1 is on the left, & 1 is on the right.
No, they’re really not.
Blocking a SDE and blocking a WDE requires a different skill set. Blocking the QB’s blind side and blocking his strong side requires a different skill set.
Pretty sure the entire offense is altered based on which hand the QB throws with.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/157757-so-whats-the-difference-in-a-right-and-left-tackle
This article highlights some of the key differences.
I was thinking the same thing today about the LT position. Based on this article it still seems like Runyan it better qualified to be the starting LT than JBB. The only advantage JBB would have is longer arms but from what I've seen and heard, Runyan is still a better pass protector.
I agree on some accounts, but you’re still not looking at the whole picture. A lot of playing LT over RT is mental as well.
I cant speak directly on this, but it could simply be that JBB being a 5th year senior just knows the spot better, he knows what’s coming at him, he’s quicker to react, and he can read a defense better. It’s not just speed and blocking ability. It’s a huge mental position as well.
You can’t necessarily just look at individual skills. You have to look at how it’s all put together.
Now I can’t sit here and tell you JBB is better than Runyan. I’m just like most of you. All I know is what I hear from people like UMBig11.
What I can tell you, is that LT and RT are fairly significantly different positions. Being good at one doesn’t mean you’ll be good at the other. And the coaches seem to favor JBB over Runyan for that LT job. I have enough faith in this staff and specifically Warinner to make the correct decision in that regard.
Same skill sets & attributes.,.. Heavy, strong, long arms, fast on feet. If 1 is a tick faster, you put him on your QB's blind side. Not German rocket science... Very similar duties.
Sure, if you leave out the mental aspect of it.
This article is outdated. Defense don't put their best pass rusher on the weakside, they move them all over and they even put their best pass rusher on the strongside because you want them in a favorable matchup. So you need strong pass protector on both side regardless. Look at the NFL, the best pass rushers are the ones lining up over RT like Von Miller, JJ Watt, Khalil Mack, Cam Jordan, Melvin Ingram, etc.
The biggest difference between LT and RT is the footwork and techniques. Everything you do at LT, you have to do the opposite. For example at LT, you have to push off from your inside foot aka right foot to get off the stance quickly. For RT, you have to do the opposite of it. Same with setting landmark whether if it's jumpset, 45 degree set or vertical set and use your techniques. It messes with your brain if you don't practice on both side. It's a matter of comfort left on stance, setting your landmark and use whatever techniques to block edge pass rushers.
You know defenses align to formation, right?
Yes there’s a difference but it’s incredibly overstated.
Eh, LT and RT are way way more similar than different. If you are a good LT you can pretty much guarantee you can be a good RT as well. If you are a good fullback you can still suck at tailback. If you are a good kicker you can still suck at punting. I think you are making SDE and WDE sound like way different positions which is a little bit misleading. Our SDE is faster than our WDE for example. But doesn't that mean we should move Gary to WDE to rush the blindside? Nope. In today's game there is so much movement and rotations with players the traditional WDE and SDE roles are not as unilateral as they once were.
Obviously they’re more similar than different. We aren’t comparing QB to kicker.
But they are different enough to where you can’t say “if he’s clearly our best right tackle, why isn’t he at left tackle.” Being good at one doesn’t mean you’ll be good at the other. Is it possible? Of course.
But there’s a reason when Taylor Decker got hurt that the Lions signed a “who’s who of suck” instead of just moving Wagner to the left side. They’re different enough to where it’s more complicated than just having your best tackle on the left side.
Care to expound on how? I don’t know much about the intricacies of line play.
See above.
Seems as though a lot of this banter could be put to rest if there were any practice insiders who could tell us who was at LT with the ones and or twos in Spring ball. Do we have any of those? Did Brian even cover it in a tea leaf post? I don't remember.
Kind of like having two left feet
When I look at this team, I feel good to great about every position except the tackles. (Well, I have a bit of concern about safety, but not a lot.). I just hope that poor tackle play doesn’t torpedo what could be a terrific season. I can’t wait to get back to beating MSU and OSU with some frequency, beginning now.
It's the offensive line, stupid.
Before and after the offensive tackles, that is straight football porn. What a loaded team if we can get just a little pass protection. Just a little, man.
That italicized word again is little.
To clarify, all I'm talking is a little pass protection. Dare I say, a bit. A tad. A smidge. I mean, like half a schmear of pass pro on our bagel and we're in the playoffs.
Wait, so how much pass protection?
I remember one of the games JBB started at RT last season. O'Korn took the shotgun snap, had to make the DE over JBB miss then looked down field. for a WR. Its gotta be Hudson.
We better enjoy the excellent players on defense this year, because how many will be gone to the draft next year.
Not that the defense will be bad next year.
A year ago at about this time, how many people were predicting that Michigan's starting right tackle in the opening game against Florida would be this guy?
Greg Frey was.
Obviously the LT spot is probably the biggest question mark for the offense next year.
I’m (1) curious to see what difference Warriner makes for the OL schemes and (2) curious how much the offense changes in general. Different options with Patterson as QB, and that alone could change the way we look at the OL.
Great points. The O-line was a problem last year but it seemed that things could have been done to get the ball out quicker to help the O-line a little. The only game I remember that happening was against OSU where the offense moved the ball better than other games.
Right.
If this offense can adapt and modernize and implement more spread concepts with RPOs and a mobile QB, it will really help the O-Line out.
If we continue to plod along with snapping everything from under center, with a QB who doesn't attempt to utilize his mobility and simply stands in the pocket the whole time, we're probably in for a rough year baring a few miracles from Warriner and Co.
I feel like the chief competition/issue is LT and then a big chasm to everything else.
This might be dumb but what about Newsome? Is it a given that he will not play this year or possibly ever again?
Not this year is a given. Ever is still up in the air at this point.
I mean the guy almost had to have his leg amputated and he’s still not cleared to play.
While he may be cleared by the time the season starts, expecting him to be able to perform at a starting tackle level is pretty much out of the question
If JBB starts, that would mean 4 of the 5 starting offensive lineman are at least 4* recruits. It's crazy how O line is still an issue at UM.
Last year’s line featured 3 top 100 recruits and Mason Cole who was #125 in his class.
Not to mention Ruiz who was also a top 100 recruit
This is what baffles me the most.
It's not like we're throwing a bunch of walk-ons out there on the O-Line and expecting them to dominate the trenches.
So what gives? Why are we going into year 4 and the O-Line is STILL a giant question mark?
LOL - Mlive. Who are these mlive goofballs anyway? Watch their cringeworthy YouTube videos where they list the recruitment status of Braylon Edwards’ “son” (actually his brother). Those self-appointed “experts” on everything sports are actually clueless buffoons.
One comment that still irks me a bit was from Higdon. “If I would of rushed for 1000 yards I would of entered the draft”
Dont really know how to take that comment. Me me me or team team team. That one still makes me wonder. Just saying as it could be nothing but it stuck out to me.