D.Hand not impressed with OSU
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/6/2/4388514/da… This recruitment seems to be trending to the good guys. Hand shared that he has not talked to his favorite coach Bud Foster lately and that Michigan is his favorite staff overall.
Let's go back to the start of the modern recruiting ranking era in 2002. Here are all the 5 and 4 star that never panned out here-
Yeah, and the list of 3 stars (which is just one ranking instead of two - like combining 4 and 5 stars) would be A LOT longer.
Yeah.......and?
My point is recruiting rankings don't determine what they will do. Anyone who takes the rankings as gospel truth needs to get a grip.
Jake Ryan was a 3 star in 2010 and Cullen Christian was a 4 star. Which one panned out? Recruiting classes are like the lottery. Anything can happen.
you sound like a sparty fan saying stars dont matter. stars do matter and its been proven. are they always right? hell no but go ask Bama how many NC they have won with classes full of 3* compared to ther usual 4*&5* classes as of late.
It's more like playing blackjack, while counting cards...
I don't think you are where you think you are.
Yes, be cautious in projecting HS kids, but if you're going to do it, rankings are a plausible place to start.
How do you define outrecruited?
'Out-recruiting' someone means getting the dudes that both teams want. Thus far, MIchigan has 7 commits with OSU offers. OSU has 4 commits with Michigan offers. \
In the present case, the Buckeyes made Da'Shawn Hand a priority. They made his top 10. They didn't make his top 5. Michigan made Da'Shawn Hand a priority. They're (reportedly) in his top 2. That's out-recruiting someone.
I saw someone did an average comparison between recruiting rankings and AP finish for the last 10 years and the results were pretty surprising.
OSU had the recruiting rank of #10 and the AP rank of #1. Schools like Miami and FSU and Clemson had high recruiting rankings, but poor AP finishes.
i will give Jermey one thing, when Chase committed to us yesterday he told buckeye fans to shut up about not wanting him. he said we lost a good player and kid to michigan, dont down play it.
but that seems to at least show he can be unbiased some of the time. What I think happened here however, is OSU has seen the writing on the wall for a long time and his insider may be the one making the excuses (if he really has one).
What I mean is the insiders at OSU have known for a while that they were on the outside looking in with Hand and so yes, they probably stopped paying a lot of attention to a player they considered a lost cause. So technically they may have indeed stopped (or at least slowed) recruiting him.The fact that Hand has left him out of his top 5 also makes it less than an ideal "fit" for OSU since he has no wish to attend the school.
So if we're being very technical, what this clown is saying may indeed have some truth in it, but it is also very disingenuous. Because if Hand had put OSU in his top 5 there would be no talk of him not being a "fit" for the school and they would be recruiting their tails off trying to get him in the fold.
This is just the latest in myriad examples of OSU trying to spin the story of each and every recruit that is able to see through the bogus recruiting pitch of Urban and company. As Jabrill would say "real recognize real" and Hand is real!
Get over it buckeyes. Not everyone wants to play for your school and your head coach, that's life.
offer an intrepretation on all this spin and Tweets?
...is finding out that it's a lot harder to recruit without Greg Mattison.
and the Florida coeds!
"Chest Pains".
We have the Golden Arcs.
I have the big mick. . .
Perhaps DaShawn comin to do school too, and thus isn't a good fit.
Hand has stated that he was planning on taking other visits, so there is the possibility that we won't get a commitment from him, but I do like our chances.
""But my favorite coaching staff is Michigan," Hand said. "With Michigan, what you see if what you get. It's professional. With some, you feel like when you get to college it might change, but with Michigan, everyone says they're straight."
Other recruits have said similar things about the Michigan coaches, and I really do believe that recruits do appreciate this aspect of the culture at Michigan in particular. The staff really seems to be on-message and very forthright about their plans, and the honesty certainly has to be refreshing and attractive to potential commits as well as their families. This sort of consistency really does help contribute to recruiting success, but it is also what has made it possible for commits to easily aid the effort as well.
I think families are put at ease once they see how much this staff cares about the kids, not only as athletes, but as students and young men.
I think he might not have wanted some of those quotes out there. Either he actually was misquoted or he's just trying to keep where he is leaning under wraps.