Winningest QB in Michigan History?
I was reading a piece on colt mccoy being the all-time leader in the NCAA in QB wins. It made me wonder who is Michigan's most winningest starting QB?
I went to Bentley and looked at each year. It shows the number of starts each one has but does not specify which games they started. Could have been a win, loss or tie. So my question is to anyone on here, do you know who the winningest starting QB is in Michigan history?
EDIT: Stupid title fixed.
Leach was also involved in the most wins as a professional of any former U of M quarterback.
(Logged in to post that nugget only to find out that he is also the actual answer to the original question).
/ 10 year MLB career
Horace Prettyman.
You sound like an intelligent, rational human being.
We scored 39 points. Not sure you can put that one on Henne.
Also, he really whiffed on those long Beanie Wells runs.
He didn't recover the onside kick when we made it 42-39. In fact, he wasn't even on the field! What a loser.
I blame him for the '08 season too. He could have fenagled an extra year of eligibility somehow.
Henne's stats in the 4 OSU games
2004: 27 of 54 for 328 yards, 2 touchdowns and 2 interceptions
2005: 25 of 36 for 223 yards, 1 touchdown
2006: 21 of 35 for 267 yards, 2 touchdowns
And in 2007 when he could barely stand on his feet, he threw for 67 yards.
Those first 3 games, those are some pretty decent stats. Especially against St. Tressell who was probably starting ineligible players for all 4 of those games anyway.
I always blamed the defense more in those games than Henne. But maybe that's just me.
August 7th, 2012 at 11:12 PM ^
who was on mlive one day one day after a heart-breaking loss and said Henne needed a new pair of panties? Wow did that annoy me. I couldn't believe that anyone who associated with Michigan could be so petty or vindictive about an 18-year-old who was more talented than they would ever be and who was--always--trying his damnedest. I always thought that the people who ragged on Henne were slime.
Just venting, cuz it still annoys me. And btw, welcome to Bolivian.
August 8th, 2012 at 12:08 PM ^
Who beat Florida so bad that Urban was afraid to give the ball back to Michigan's offense late in the game?
Leach started 48 games, 38-8-2, started for all 4 years.
Leach did play in the Baylor game referenced above. It ended in a tie. He had less stats than Elzinga. I don't know who started or was playing at the time of the tying score.
Henne started 47 games, 33-14. Missed 3 games all wins by Mallett, and most of the fourth against Wisconsin, but he did start that game in '07.
Navarre started 42 games, 32-10. Started only 4 games as RS freshman in '00. I'll give him 2-1 record for that year. He was replaced by Henson against ILL at halftime trailing 21-7. A game Henson won 35-31.
Grbac started 39 games, 30-6-3. Started only 5 in '89, and only 10 in '92.
Thanks for pointing this out -- Leach did indeed play in that Baylor game, but he did not start it. I'm not sure how the timing of the scoring went...
The definition of a win I was using was: QB starts the game and team ultimately wins that game - not the best definition but probably the simplest. Are the rest of you thinking in temrs of a differnet definition? Like the "win" stat for pitchers?
David Cone
... and moreover, he is also an All-Conference/All-American baseball player, hitting over .400 for a championship team. And basically good enough in basketball to at least make the team.
What would we say about such an athlete today?
Ok Section 1 - I think we're about the same age and have witnessed roughly the same amount of Michigan football through the years so I have a question for you. If you could pick just one Michigan QB in our era to run RR's offensive who would you take?
1. Denard Robinson?
2. Ricky Leach?
3. Dennis Franklin?
Personally I'd take Franklin. Close to as fast as Denard but with way better ball security and that dude did nothing but win. Leach may have the most victories but nobody can touch Franklin's winning percentage as he went 30-2-1 in his three years as a starter.
But i'd have loved to see "Quicksilver Lighting" run it too!
August 7th, 2012 at 10:12 PM ^
I actually saw his last play in organized football (I think). He was a rookie for the Lions, converted-QB wide receiver, in what I recall as being the opening night of the Pontiac Silverdome. He went over the middle for a high ball and was knocked out so badly, it was one of the two or three scariest plays I've ever witnessed.
It is so weird now, to look at wishbone offenses on old film. So many players crammed into so little space.
I personally liked Rick the best; he was the Bobby Layne of his time. A winner without peer. But I do agree that Dennis Franklin was a prototype for the modern spread. (Denard was of course PERFECT for the Rodriguez spread-option; what a pity we didn't get to see him grow into a Heisman-winning Pat White redux.)
What were Rick Leach's interception numbers? And int./td ratios? Pretty damn good I'd bet. A good thrower and a smart one.
August 7th, 2012 at 10:21 PM ^
A couple of points:
1. Ricky's numbers arent as good as you might think. Overall he was 48/35 TD to Int thanks largely to his 3/12 Freshman year.
2. Bo actually didnt go to the Wishbone until the mid 80's. He ran a variation of the veer (power I option) with the ball generally going to the tailback on either a dive or a pitch off the FB fake.
3. The picture you showed of Ricky is from the 1977 Football preview issue and is notable in that Michigan became the first and ONLY school ever to be ranked #1 pre-season in both football and basketball in the same year. (damn broken hand by Ricky Green.....damn Warren Moon playing the game of his life in the Rose Bowl)
August 7th, 2012 at 11:27 PM ^
Broken hand by Ricky Green when? More like a Cornbread intolerance.
I think a lot of people mis-remember this as Henne (as I did) because I think Henne is the all time leader in passing yards... I think...
August 7th, 2012 at 11:41 PM ^
Who is the last graduate of an Ann Arbor high school to score a TD for Michigan? Harbaugh does not count, he was Palo Alto.
August 7th, 2012 at 11:54 PM ^
...but who will be the next? Miller, Jackson, Johnson or other?
August 8th, 2012 at 12:42 AM ^
"I was reading a piece on colt mccoy being the all-time leader in the NCAA in QB wins."
Doesn't Kellen Moore hold the all-time record for wins by a starting quarterback in NCAA Division I FBS? Isn't McCoy 2nd?
Last A2 high school grad to score TD for Michigan. Wolverine Historian are you really a historian? No one since 60's at least. Someone. Anyone. Carl Tabb was our great hope. Didn't make it.
It has to be Sheridan, right?