MSU to announce Gholston suspension tomorrow
Apparently Mark Dantonio will hold a press conference tomorrow and will announce the suspension of William Gholson (number of games unknown). This per my friend in the athletic department.
Confirmation of at least the press conference "addressing Gholston situation" on twitter:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:16 PM ^
My guess is MSU is taking preemptive action and doling out a 1 game suspension before the Big 10 could get to him and hand out 2.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:29 PM ^
was thinking the exact same thing. theres no way hes not at least getting a 1 game suspension so sparty thinks if they announce it the B1G will back off. I could see wisconsin takeing sparty out back and beating them too a pulp, ie. iowa, penn st. and OSU have done in recent years. Sparty thinks there good. Beilima being the asshole that he is will beat them by 4 scores
October 17th, 2011 at 8:31 PM ^
Not to mention that this will open the gates of the Spartys saying "We would've beat Wisconsin if we had Gholston!" after they lose on Saturday.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:45 PM ^
Honestly nothing would make me happier than if they suspended him for the Wisconsin game and you could provide definintive proof that said suspension cost them the game. If they win, or lose in a blowout, then the suspension hasn't ultimately affected them. It would be nice if it actually counted for something.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:50 PM ^
That would be a terrific outcome. The idea that a team - any team, not just Sparty - can be that dirty and win because of it burns me up. I hope they talk shit all week and then lose because the backup to Gholston is terrible - teams that play like that deserve to lose because of it, not win.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:54 PM ^
Nothing would make me happier than if our game costs MSU the Wisconsin game.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:34 PM ^
Um, they were going to lose regardless.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:10 AM ^
Poetic Justice!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:46 PM ^
EDIT: double post fail. Jersies, Ohio, you know the drill.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 PM ^
delete
October 17th, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^
That MSU will only be planning for two defensive plays in the game against Bucky.
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<br>A thusly justified four play (two game, then) suspension, AND public shaming in EL in front of all of his student peers will be the appropriate immolation.
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<br>Have a.nice pep rally and first series off, asshole.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:56 AM ^
will be more than one game. State will suspend him for more than one game. The Big Ten is thinking more about whether Gholston will play again this season. The (typical) lack of local outrage about the play on Denard should not effect your perception of that play. It has become taboo to seriously question Michigan State in these parts. How it became that way, I don't know, but it has. What you saw was accurate, William Gholston attempted to break Denard's neck. Plain and simple, regardless of whether the Michigan media wants to discuss it in the fashion. The only thing that prevented a serious likely permanent injury to Denard on that play was his helmet coming off when it did. The only thing that prevented an ambulance on the field was Denard's helmet coming off when it did. The only think that prevented Gholston from never seeing a college field again was Denard's helmet coming off when it did.
Hoke and the staff have not addressed it directly because it had nothing to do with the game outcome and they don't need to pile on for that play to result in serious consequences. There was the Michigan State victory, a well earned victory, and then there was William Gholston acting like an animal and the two did not overlap. I don't think State will address this like a "when can we get him back on the field" situation. What Gholston did was more serious than Lagarette (sp) Blount against Boise State. He is in serious trouble and State will address it as so.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:09 AM ^
I hope you're correct that MSU takes this seriously but to blame this on Gholston growing up poor (or that's the reason he ended up at MSU) is a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of poor college athletes that don't do this (i.e. the Pahokee crew). He ended up at MSU because his HS coach steered him that way and is now on MSU's staff. M and others were recruiting him. Unless there is a strong history of him playing dirty in HS, its a fair assessment to say this is something being encouraged under MSU's coaching staff, not isolated to "one bad apple," especially in light of Rush's actions.
MSU wants Gholston to be a fall guy.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:16 AM ^
I removed it from my post. It was not motivated by anything other than commentary and discussions I have heard about him from multiple sources. There was not intended to be undertones but there was and I took it out.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:34 AM ^
I will bet my life that he'll be suspended. If it is for more than one game, I'll be delighted. However, I'll be surprised.
Is there any particular basis for your predicting that the B1G is seriously considering a multiple-game suspension for Gholston?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:44 AM ^
when a players head is protected by a helmet and not susceptible to any serious damage (less than the offending players hand), I don't see why an attempt to seriously injure a player while he is on the ground and helpless would not warrant a much more significant suspension. Go back and really watch the video of that play. That is not a football play, that was not in the heat of the moment. That was serious man. The minute that becomes "part of the game" it has officially become a sport I have no interest in. Is that less serious than Jacoby Harris going to the club with a booster? That was 3 games I believe. A play like that goes to the integrity of the game as much as anything else. That simply cannot happen and I believe that message will be sent.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:46 AM ^
First-time offenders are subject to a suspension for up to 50 percent of his/her team's scheduled games.
Here's the procedure, according to the handbook:
Within three business days of its becoming aware, by the Commissioner or designee or any other source, of any unsportslike or possible unsportslike conduct involving an individual associated with it, a member university, through its Director of Athletics, is to submit a report to the Commissioner or designee on its behalf and on behalf of the involved individual containing all information they have regarding its institutional position relative to the unsportslike or possible unsportslike conduct, including the identity of each individual involved in the matter, the penalty and remedial action, if any, which the member university has assessed or taken or proposes to assess or take. The Faculty Representative shall receive a copy of this report simultaneous with its
transmission to the Big Ten office. Within three business days of receipt of the report from the member university or, in that instance where a member university has not submitted a report, within three business days of the date on which the report was to have been submitted, the Commissioner or designee is to determine whether an act of unsportslike conduct has occurred.
At that point, the Big Ten could impose penalties.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:18 PM ^
Dantonio suspends him from the first quarter
/s.....kinda
October 17th, 2011 at 8:26 PM ^
lol i wouldn't doubt it.. don't think you need the /s kinda at all..
I wouldn't be shocked if he says he will sit the first half then play.. or he won't practice this wk lol..
October 17th, 2011 at 8:30 PM ^
Gohlston will not start but will be back in on the next defensive series. Oh!!!!! My wrist hurts.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:25 PM ^
taking a page out of LLoyd's playbook on this issue then. Well played.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:36 AM ^
I think you're giving Dantonio too much credit. I feel he's going to suspend Gholston for the first drive, if they are receiving the football. Otherwise, HE'LL BE SUSPENDED FOR AT LEAST 2 OR 3....
..... practices.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:17 PM ^
"I have zero tolerance for this, therefore William will be suspended for zero games."
October 17th, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^
"Zero tolerance does not mean automatic dismissal," the coach said. "To some critics, it might be seen as a low-percentage call or the wrong decision," Dantonio said. "It is neither. To me, our coaches, and our entire team -- the men in the arena -- it was the right call for the right reasons."
(via ESPN)
October 17th, 2011 at 8:56 PM ^
it from zero-tolerance to some-tolerance (or even high-tolerance, if he's feeling saucy).
October 17th, 2011 at 9:02 PM ^
I prefer Dantonio-tolerance, personally.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:14 PM ^
high-tolerance it is then.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:50 PM ^
Dantolerance [dan-tol-ur-rintz] n.
1- a group of people's sensitization to
dramatic violence due to repeated exposure
and cultural acceptance.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:17 PM ^
Dantonio suspends him for the duration of the press conference announcing the suspension. It's a metasuspension.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:19 PM ^
My prediction...Dantonio nominates him for the Medal of Honor.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:25 PM ^
I can see it now..... a handwritten note from the desk of Mark Dantonio - Head Coach - Michigan State Spartans - 2010 Big 10 Champions:
"I hereby award you the metal of honor for courageous service and dedication to Michigan State Football."
October 17th, 2011 at 9:40 PM ^
Ah yes, and in his award presentation speech about Gholston, calls him a Tressel-esque tragic hero...
October 17th, 2011 at 8:20 PM ^
Jim Delaney to Mark Dantonio: Either you do it or we will.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:21 PM ^
After the glen winston thing, I won't believe it until I see it.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:57 PM ^
All Gholston's fightin' posse attendance privileges will be taken away.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:22 PM ^
I know this is harsh a punishment and a big blow to the team but sometimes you have to make a stand for what's right and that's what we are all about here at Michigan State."
October 17th, 2011 at 8:22 PM ^
If he tries that against the Badgers, Bielema will dole out justice a-la Hammurabi.
My favorite part of the code: Build a house and if it drops on the owner and he dies, you die. Build a house and if it drops on the owner's son and he dies, your son dies. My daughter tells me that this was an improvement on what used to transpire: Build a house and if it drops, you die, your family dies, your crops die, your cattle die, ...
October 17th, 2011 at 8:54 PM ^
That kinds of seems like overkill after taking care of the builder and his family.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:23 PM ^
October 17th, 2011 at 8:22 PM ^
"William Gholston will be suspended for the Wisconsin game. Unless we start losing."
October 17th, 2011 at 8:48 PM ^
I believe you mean "He has decided to sit himself for the Wisconsin game, unless start losing, at which point he will come in when it is already too late."
October 17th, 2011 at 8:22 PM ^
If yes I'm just wondering the crowd response to Gholston's neck twisting of Denard?
October 17th, 2011 at 8:27 PM ^
Their big screen hardly ever played replays so most missed it. Too busy trying to figure out which helmet the football is under.
October 18th, 2011 at 8:53 AM ^
has an average mentality of a 3 year old, those shell games on the big screen are the best part of the Gameday experience
October 17th, 2011 at 8:22 PM ^
Following EL court precedent...his suspension is deemed suspended.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:23 PM ^
Dantonio will restate his position that it was a clean, hard hitting game and Tom Gholson is a victim of circumstance. Dantonio will reiterate there is nothing wrong with his players "borrowing" other peoples belongings. He will state his program does not teach is young victims of circumstance to practice unnecessary roughness. Sparty green kool-aid tastes great!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:24 PM ^
You guys have it all wrong. He's being criminally charged, this is out of his hands. He pleaded guilty and got a 4 day prison sentence. Don't worry, though, he'll be ready to go on saturday.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:10 PM ^
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October 17th, 2011 at 11:01 PM ^
You would think someone so excited about Michigan State football that they had to come on to MgoBlog would know what his coach's actual record agains Michigan is.