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|4 days 4 hours ago||GRIII is officially a liability on the court||
Been waiting to see some improvement but he has actually regressed from last year as there is no Burke to feed him.
At this point I think Irvin needs as much PT as GRIII if not more. GRIII probably needs to start as I feel like he is the type of kid who will have no confidence (even less than now if possible) if he is benched.
Time to see what Irvin can do with more PT.
Irvin D = GRIII D if not better. GRIII also can't rebound much better.
Irvin can actually drive without turning it over
Irvin has a better stroke from 3 (if not a better %, too lazy to look). GRIII is shooting 3s with ZERO confidence. teams are actually playing off him on the perimeter and its hurting our other wings.
|2 weeks 33 min ago||ESPN non-paywall article by Chantel Jennings as well||
Hopefully there will be plenty more similar pieces leading up to the Game. More pressure on DB and Hoke to make changes to the O.
It's going to be impossible not to compare the "state of the program" between UM and OSU and the gulf could not be any wider at this point.
"If they lose, the Wolverines will finish 3-5 in the Big Ten this season -- the same record Rodriguez finished with in his third year at the helm of the team."
|2 weeks 3 hours ago||Its Senior Day. Don't Boo. Seriously, take a Fire Borges Sign||
Since its Senior day I would say don't boo.
But seriously, take a Fire Borges sign and hold it up. If we can get 3-4 of these in the place and get the cameras on it that would be great. Gets the message across without affecting the players.
|2 weeks 23 hours ago||That's logical but I dunno man||
I think it's gotta come from the AD. I can't see hoke doing it on his own. They have some history and hoke obviously trusted him with his dream job (UM). We need external pressure. Lots of it.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Brandon not going I fire hoke. His guy.||
Hoke also won't fire Borges unlessed forced to. What can we do as fans to get the fire Borges movement going? Seriously, with enough fan uproar to Brandon maybe we can get Borges out. I'm going to start tweeting Desmond. Hopefully he speaks out again.
Should we all tweet DB? We gotta do something. We have the largest alumni base in the country.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||damn! scoop and score was there!||
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Mattison definitely earning his paycheck today. great calls||
Nice mix of blitz and coverage. couple nice cb blitzes there
|2 weeks 6 days ago||how many fades have we seen to Funchess?||
The play effectively isolated Gallon and it would have isolated Funchess too..who btw is a BIGGER TARGET. ie easier throw for Gardner. As we saw Gardner threw it too high and it was uncatchable for Gallon. Maybe Funchess makes that play...
Not saying throwing it to Gallon is bad. Just saying NOT throwing any fades to Funchess in the endzone IS bad.
maybe Funchess sucks at it in practice. If he does then its an easy question for Borges to answer. Just say Gallon is better at them. To me it would seem like Funchess makes the throw an easier one for Gardner.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||#2||
What is the thought process behind throwing the fade endzone route to Gallon vs. Funchess? Is there something there in terms of matchups that you prefer with Gallon over funchess?
|2 weeks 6 days ago||exactly||
ppl need to cut this kid some slack. He has been getting hammered these past few weeks. Repeated hits and pressure is going to make anyone feel jumpy in the pocket and miss a few throws. That happens to both Manning brothers too.
Hopefully some of the quik passing continues and helps get Devin in a rhythm. Also, do people not realizr there was horizontal rain in the NU game. Not ideal conditions.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||For Borges||
You seemed to have a focus on spreading out NW with the horizontal passing game and then using the fake out-wide to open up the inside running game. Is this something you felt more comfortable running vs. NW then Nebraska and MSU? Or was it more about the weather conditions and/or UM personnel in this game?
What is the rationale behind the PA on 3rd and long late in the game?
Seems like teams have consistently picked on the space between the LBs and safetys over the middle. Is there anything scheme-wise that can m
inimize this vulnerability or is it just a lack of execution by some of the LBs in their drop backs. We have seen some success in this area (Morgan vs. UCONN) but also several blown plays.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||man I missed it. anyway he can get a video of this?||
from what I'm reading on the blog it sounds like it was awesome
|4 weeks 23 hours ago||Neb short both starting guards, QB||
Still finds a way to move the ball... On the road. UM has no excuses...
|4 weeks 23 hours ago||Neb short both starting guards, QB||
Still finds a way to move the ball... On the road. UM has no excuses...
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Mattison is going to have to work some Blitz magic||
I agree with the MSU guy that they look to the short dump-off pick plays all the time. Combined with our so-so front 4 against the run (and two deep safety behind it) and you have a recipe for lots of 3rd and shorts..
I don't expected Mattison to deviate from his two high safety look much this game. But when he does bring heat (Jake Ryan or Corner Blitzes) they gotta be effective. UM forces 3rd and long and they WILL get off the field. Don't see MSU executing very well at all in long down and distance.That being said I foresee plenty of long marches for the MSU O. Hopefully UM can force a 3rd and long before the red zone...
On the flip side, we all know the story UM O vs. MSU D. UM needs ND Gardner to step up. Plain and simple.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Levert appears to be making the leap||
He has the second highest ceiling on the team. Higher than McGary, only behind GRIII...maybe. His skill set is THAT good. If he makes the leap and starts realizing that potentila he will be a top 3 player on the team and should get those mins accordingly. At the expense of Stauskas and Irvin..somewhat Walton at PG duties.
Levert will get 30mins people one way or another. He is D Mo but a better shot and more defensive hustle (mainly bc he uses less energy on O).
|5 weeks 4 days ago||SC just needs a weekly diary, leave it at that||
SC just needs to do a weekly diary a counterpoint to Brian on Tues or Wed and leave it at that. Some weeks he might agree with Brian, others he may not. Either way he can say his piece in one post, perhaps respond to comments in that thread and leave it at that.
or he can just leave. The internet will go on.
I have gone back and forth with him in the past bc we disagree on something. It happens. I don't take it personally and he shouldn't either. Going around trying to change 100 posters mind every week one post at a time will drive you crazy. so stop doing it.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||ESPN had a timely article on this very topic today||
Q: Which coach needs to have a good November???
Rittenberg picks HOKE
There are some big-picture questions to be answered about Michigan in November. What is the state of the program right now? Where are the Wolverines headed under Hoke? The recruiting success is undeniable, but it doesn't matter much if it doesn't translate to championships. The great thing about Hoke is he has made the expectations so clear for the Wolverines: Big Ten title or failure. By Hoke's own standards, he has failed for two seasons and the program has failed for nearly a decade. The Sugar Bowl championship in Year 1 was nice, and so was the streak-ending win against Ohio State, but Michigan benefited in both cases from extremely favorable circumstances. This is the month for the Wolverines to truly show they're taking the next step. They'll have a very hard time winning the division without beating Michigan State on Saturday. They could be challenged by Nebraska, Northwestern and Iowa before facing arguably the best Ohio State team they've seen since the 2006 season.
Hoke isn't coaching for his job, a national championship or a dramatic turnaround from a long losing streak. But he needs to show in November that Michigan is taking steps toward a championships on the field, not just on the recruiting trail.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||wayy to much credit to Borges IMO||
why do you need UM to check into a play you want when you know that they will "establish the run" into your loaded box many many times.
Stacking the box and forcing Gardner to throw is as simple as it gets for D coordinators. No chess match needed.
I have hope that we will air it out more like we tried to in 2011 though. The recent good performance by MSU offense is a blessing bc UM coaches hopefully won't think they can just play field position and get FGs. we should be targeting 24-28 points for the W.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||exactly the line I did not like||
I agree completely. Tired of the lack of experience excuse for everything on this team.
Lets not pretend Gardner is an 18yr old frosh. Btw, last year a RS Frosh QB won the heisman. This year Winston is the front-runner.
You don't need to be a RS senior to be a good QB... sure as hell don't need it to be able to check plays. If the O could get to the LOS before 5 secs on the clock maybe we could give Gardner that chance but thats another thread.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||agree with this assesment||
agree on all accounts.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||MSU is just one game. But OSU isn't??||
So everyone here who says MSU is just one game it and doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things...
So if we were to beat OSU this year and snap there 24 game or whatever win streak I GUARANTEE every last one of you would say that was a program win. A sign that Hoke "gets it" and that the program is in the right direction. We all would bc its true.
But if we lose to MSU this week then "its ok, its just one game". "it wouldn't mean anything or be a sign". "the loss wouldn't cause me to question any coaches".
You can't have it both ways.
and btw, based on the Big 10 format, the MSU game IS bigger than the OSU game. UM needs this to make the Big Ten Championship. You know that game Hoke always talks about and says anything but is a FAILURE. We lose this game and its next to impossible to even PLAY in the B10 title game much less win it. This IS the biggest game of the season and will clearly set the tone for the final stretch.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||how experinced was our line last year?||
We had upperclassmen along the line last year and it still sucked.
Every year there is a new excuse for this program...some people are just tired of it. At a certain point you have to perform.
This team has had an incredibly EASY schedule to date and now TWO BYE WEEKS...if we can't come up with a good game plan based on what we have personnel wise then ITS ON THE COACHES. At this point you know what you are and what you are not. Time to gameplan accordingly.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||bc his completion % was lower from under center||
this despite having TONS of time to throw since most of these were off PA in the IU game. also gallon was WIDE WIDE open. niether of those to will happen vs MSU on a consistent basis.
now gardners lower % can be attributed to the length of these passes (further throw, lower comp%) but we know he will not have this amount of time vs MSU like he did IU. hence my aprehension to go to the iform "PA go DEEP" well toooo much. don't get me wrong, we have to do it several times... 5-6 bombs at least. I'd say once we approach mid field the bomb should be firmly in the 1st down playbook. also, IMO it seems like gardner does worse in the short passing game on drop back passing. perhaps sees the field less.
Also, his 16% higher comp% in shotgun vs IU tells me he is more comfortable there. as well as the entire ND game.
The MSU game has to be all about moving the chains. I actually agree with the coaches that it will be about field position and points will be a premium. I just know that we cannot move the chains and get goof field position, or flip the field after an MSU drive by running under center with the RB. this will directly lead to TFLs, 3rd and longs, and INTs. at this point its a fact IMO.
shotgun, dink and dunk. 1st down PA bomb 5-6 times is the way to go. that will move the chains and loosen it up for Tousiant runs. Garder will have 10-15 carries hopefully to move the chains on critical 3rd downs or get to the endzone in the redzone.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||great way to look at it||
I think this is exactly how the coaches feel.
I happen to think its wishful thinking to believe that this team will go on the road and have zero turnovers vs an aggressive D. conservative gameplan or not. What some are missing is that two safe runs for a total of 2 yds on 1st and 2nd down leads to a 3rd and long. prob more like 3rd and 14 with our OL and running game. There is NOTHING safe about 3rd and longs. Those generate TOs... Not first down passing.
To your point, I am confident that if UM scores 24-27 points they will win the game. so long as TOs are under 3 and none of them go for pick six or sack-fumble-TDs. big IF but I really don't see MSU scoring 28pts without at least 1 defensive Touchdown. so IMO, our goal should be get to 24 pts...
so to me, the answer is play it safe inside our own 40. Open it up once we approach midfield. Hopefully our D and the special teams will be good enough to limit our O plays inside our own 20.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||fair points but its about what the O mindset will be||
play close to the vest and grind out a win with field position(using our Iform RB running weakness). Or play to our offensive strength (shotgun, gardner, make plays).
btw,you can't blanket funchess and gallon as well as commit #s to the run (which is what MSU does). Not enough players on the field.
Given the gallon explosion they will shade a safety to his side, load the box to stop the run, and let the dice roll on our other WRs. This IS EXACTLY what they are going to do. We know it, coaches know it, my gf probably knows it. How Borges attacks this will determine the game.
When they are not doing the above, they will rush less and player quarters behind it.
They will switch between both hopping to catch gardner offguard and get a INT or 2.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Fully Expect Borges to play into their hand. run up the gut||
I fully expect Borges and Hoke to go conservative and play into MSU's hands by doing I form runs up the gut. Hoping to manage field position with our D and score on a short field vs. MSU (and minimize turnovers).
That all sounds good in theory BUT...
it's asking the UM O to play to its own weakness. Undercenter RB carries vs good DLs. MSU is more PSU then it is MINN. We should have learned from that game but I'm sure we did not. Now MSU secondary is >>>> than IU but IMO playing our weakness against MSU strength (UM RB carries vs MSU run D) is a mistake.
Now I HOPE Borges decides to spread the field more and let Gardner operate out of the shotgun.We turn to this when the shit hits the fan and we have to score anwyays. A nugget from ESPN:
-Gardner’s completion percent out of the gun against Indiana was 16 percent higher than it was when he was under center.
-Gardner completed 9 of 14 passes when he was under center and averaged 35.7 yards per completion.
-All four of running back Fitzgerald Toussaint's touchdowns came while Gardner was under center, though his personal average per carry under center is nearly half of what it is when Michigan runs the shotgun.
-Michigan rushed the ball 23 times for 118 yards (5.1 yards per carry) out of shotgun.
What do those stats tell me? Gardner is more comfortable passing in shotgun and we stand a better chance to move the change (esp against a team committed to stopping the run) via shotgun passing.
Use our offenses "change up" effectively like we did vs. IU. By that I mean:
1] Use i form packages for PA, especially on 1st down. These are where the homerun plays to Funchess and Gallon will come. These are how we flip the field. Now this does not mean go PA every I form, but we HAVE to use pa passing on 1st down. 1 out of every 3 1st downs should be a pass IMO. Some for quick dinks to 5 yds. 4-5 bombs to funchess/gallon. Hoke should express "concern" to the media about the amount of PI MSU does as well. plant the seed with the refs early and often in the game too.
2] If we have committed to consistent use of shotgun to move the chains (via short passing), Now is a good time to run the delayed draws, inverted veers, or simply 4 wide with a QB keeper. IE use shotgun to run the ball. Pref on 3rd down on their side of the 40.
Gibbons has been shaky so 40+yd FGs should be a no go. this means more 4th down calls for us in and around their 30-40yd line. knowing this we should run a couple times on 3rd and medium knowing that we have 2 plays.
|7 weeks 6 hours ago||TV does show 8-9 in the box stuffing runs||
And that does not work with a marginal OL. I'll take your word on the 2011 game but Gardner is a better passer than denard. Sure he throws bad ints which could kill us but his best chance is throwing more in 1st down. Putting him in obs passing downs is exactly what you don't want. We gotta avoid 3rd and longs and I am convinced that 1st down passes to funchess and gallon are the key to 3rd and short. Running on early downs consistently will lead to 3rd and longs.
MSU will sell out to stop the run. This is a fact. We shoul spread them out and go shotgun to give the team it's best chance. Or go unbalanced and throw a quick pa pass like we did vs IU. We have the play calls, we just saw them vs IU. Much more creativity in getting the ball to playmakers in the flats.
|7 weeks 7 hours ago||why go conservative vs MSU?||
you say you don't mean run on every 1st down but you know safe means manball running on 1st down and TFLs...that equals 3rd and 13s which are NOT SAFE.
I can guarantee you that UM run/pass will be more run heavy vs. MSU on 1st down and they will blitz the A gap like crazy and get multiple TFLs in the 1st half.
Why should the gameplan play into this? Why not PA pass or straight up shotgun on 1st down just like we did against IU? Would it not be more effective against an MSU team loading the box and leaving DBs on islands? Would manball be more effective than the screens we actually threw this game. The quick hitters to gallon in the flat? the rub route to get Funchess the edge outside the numbers? All these faster developing plays on the edge that WE DID NOT SEE vs PSU...
why does reverting back to manball up the geu and 3rd and 13s seem like the better strategy against a load the box team with ball hawks at CB??? I ask why bc we know we will see it in 2 weeks. UM will go "safe" and put Gardner in very tough 3rd and longs..
|7 weeks 9 hours ago||That's what it felt like upon first watch||
I could tell we passed a lot more on 1stdown. This is what ppl on the blog have been calling for since Akron. And it worked exactly like we thought it would. I just don't know why it took Borges Psu and 27 for 27 to figure it out. Instead we played to our weakness and it cost us an L. Just like MSU, Iowa, and OSU games before....
Let's see if he sticks with this type if game plan. he has done this before and reverted back to manball fail. Let's see if he continues with more shotgun and 1st down pa. I'm willing to bet he puckers up at MSU and crashes into the interior OL again for the entire first half