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Neck Sharpies: Cutting Off Crossing Routes Comment Count

Seth October 23rd, 2019 at 9:00 AM

So last November

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SO LAST NOVEMBER Michigan's #1 defense was eviscerated by Ryan Day and Urban Meyer. Mostly what happened was Michigan's Cover 1 system was badly exposed against Indiana with crossing routes, and Ohio State copied what the Hoosiers did the previous week. IU showed you could double-team Winovich and Gary and get away with it because Michigan's DTs weren't going to win the 1-on-1 battles that created. That gave their quarterback enough time to find their receivers on crossing routes that exploited the lack of speed of some of Michigan's defenders. It worked for IU until Michigan was expecting it and ratcheted up the pressure. It worked for Ohio State because there were speed matchups like Brandon Watson vs. Parris Campbell/KJ Hill/Chris Olave and JK Dobbins/Parris Campbell vs Devin Gil that vastly favored the Buckeyes, and Michigan's five-man pressures couldn't get home before those came into play.

I thought all offseason about showing what happened and why, but couldn't bring myself to do so. Bad enough that it happened; what's the point of talking about it if there's no way to fix it? I'm bringing this up now because Michigan just played another offense—one with a receiver on par with those at Ohio State—that wanted to run mesh plays with elite speed, was able to protect their quarterback, and yet got virtually nothing. I'm not talking about a patch—doing something unsound to stop Mesh is a good way to get your defense torched by all the other things. Michigan now has multiple responses to crossing routes from a multiple-looking defense. I know it's still early—no sports fan should ever have to go through The Rehabilitation of Urban Meyer twice—and there's no shame in not wanting to face it again. But if you're ready, I'll show you what I think happened, and why it's not happening anymore.

[After THE JUMP: Crossing routes. The bad ones.]

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Preparing for Pain

So this was the first indication that something was broken about Michigan's base Cover 1. Watch what happens to #28 Brandon Watson, who starts on the bottom of the screen.

That's a legal pick from the tight end, and creates enough space the receiver to open a gap on Watson. You run these pick plays if you're pretty sure of getting man coverage, and against Michigan that was nearly a guarantee, especially when the front started getting weird. A lot of guys flip around before the play but ultimately there are four pass rushers, a linebacker to relate to the running back, an overhang safety for insurance, and everybody else in man coverage. I want you to note something else: Watson is set up outside of his receiver, while Hill and Long are on top of or even shaded a bit inside.

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How you align over a receiver will determine what sorts of routes you have an advantage over. Last year Michigan was aligning anybody they didn't want faded with outside leverage. Of course if you're cheating to the fade you're giving up a step on every inside route, like a drag or a slant. Here that's true for Watson.

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Brandon Watson is good at jams but limited by speed. That's one mark against him. He also set up in an anti-fade stance: two marks. Then they ran a tight end across his face: three marks. And then Michigan used a five-man pressure, losing the gamble that their blitz with Devin Bush would make up for the lack of Devin Bush in the middle. Four marks: big play.

This led to a season-long tradeoff battle: leave an extra linebacker in coverage to help on these disadvantaged DBs, or keep the pressure on and hope to get to the quarterback before the long-developing route has a chance to get halfway across the field. Most of the time Michigan opted to leave the LBs in coverage, which nerfed the LBs' pass rush and saw Bush's and Hudson's TFL rates plummet. Occasionally, such as in this instance, they gambled on pressure and left the middle open.

As long as you're in man coverage, the offense can play rock, paper, scissors against the matchups they choose. That won't matter if you're consistently generating pressure, or (as is the case with Ohio State) all of your DBs are better athletes than the receivers they're lining up across from and can just play it straight. Here, "recruit better!" guy gets to nod his head and ignore conditions that are favorable to certain schools and unfavorable to others in that department. Those of us with more useful brains can move on to reality, and how to try to win in it.

But first we're going to lose. Lose everything. Prepare for rock bottom.

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This Is Going to Hurt

Here's what Ohio State loves to run, so much that this image is directly from our 2018 Hail to the Victors preview of OSU:

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They have variations but it's a strong take on a base play everybody runs. Mesh uses multiple receivers crossing each other to rub off man coverage. If it finds zone coverage, the crossing receivers can just stop and sit between the zones. Ryan Day picked up this tweak from Oregon, where there's a back on a wheel route to remove a linebacker from the middle, and a hook route (that's often run as a simple pick) to hold the remaining coverage away from the crossers.

Now let's backtrack to Indiana and Watson's marks and add one more: Chris Olave, a highly coveted four-star Michigan lost out on to Ohio State, is much faster than Brandon Watson, a low 3-star jam specialist Brady Hoke thought might be converted into a Cover 2 safety when many other options were already off the board.

Outside leverage vs inside release , Picked by a TE , Watson has bad speed , Chris Olave has good speed , Linebacker erased by pressure that doesn't get to QB . Five bad marks. Disaster. Baby-eating Buckeyes just took half of France.

So what do you do here? You can change the leverage, but then fades are dangerous again. Here's what happened when we tried that:

Watson here is playing Olave straight up, and Olave straight-up wins off the snap, baiting Watson into thinking he's got to haul ass for an inside release before stepping outside and putting distance between them. Behind by over a yard, Watson can only guess where Olave and the ball are going, giving Olave time to adjust to a ball thrown well inside.

Maybe you can fix the pick? Next time Ohio State bunched up receivers like this Michigan had Watson stick with the guy coming inside on motion. Even the Mesh pick doesn't matter because Watson's outside leverage has him a step behind, and his –1 speed is dominated by KJ Hill's elite +2 speed. Also: five-man pressure doesn't get there.

Watson wasn't the only guy picked on. Ohio State used KJ Hill and DeMario McCall and Parris Campbell, all +2 speedsters, against Michigan on crossing routes.

On this one Devin Gil had inside leverageSmile, but gave it up by reading the cut too slowly, and the TE pick forced him to cede a yard upfield to avoid, and then his speed deficiency relative to McCall came into play, and then so did his tackling ability versus McCall's running back-ish grind-out with a linebacker on his foot. Michigan's five-man pressure again couldn't make it to the quarterback versus the extra-wide splits they used to give their pass setters an extra half a second to ID the pressure.

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It didn't work half as well when they attacked more even matchups. Here's a version of the play that beat Watson a moment ago run by David Long (versus Johnnie Dixon) instead:

The initial pick is dealt with by the "travel" call, but Long has outside leverage, and Dixon has + speed, and the six(!!!)-man pressure gets nowhere because the DTs can barely cross the line of scrimmage and the RB and TE sacrificed half of their routes to provide chips on Michigan's good edge rushers, but guess what: Long has +2 speed SmileSmile and ball skills Smile, and even a perfect throw by Haskins gets PBU'd.

This was OSU's offense all year, taking advantage of their speed checkmarks by running crossing routes, protecting the quarterback with five-man protections, and getting their yards on YAC. It's a great system if you've got the guys, just like Michigan's Cover 1 is devastatingly effective with a bunch of David Longs and Maurice Hursts running around. But if your cornerback can't make up the space from outside leverage on in-breaking routes, and you can't give him LB help because your interior pass rush sucks, and leaving him heads up means he has to commit penalties to stay alive, either you're a Michigan opponent who can just get away with that, or you're going to die:

Notice again Ohio State committed to doubling inside moves from Gary and Winovich/extra blitzers, giving up any chance of a play from their TE or RB. Haskins can afford to step up because the DTs are losing one-on-one battles with interior line. Even Winovich's excellent outside rush can only brush Haskins a second too late. And because he's so terrified of getting beat inside, Watson can no longer align to dominate a simply fly route on 3rd and forever. He has to hold, quite obviously, and gets flagged.

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Answers: Answered

So if you're locked into a speed disadvantage (for whatever reason—I don't know why Ambry didn't replace Watson either), and you're not getting pressure even with five guys, and your coverage is getting picked or messed with by routes of guys not getting the ball designed to mess with the guy covering where the ball goes, you have to abandon your base. In this case if your defenders can't cover a man, have them cover a zone.

And Michigan did have a zone counter. It was Don Brown's old Trap 2 coverage. This coverage has the cornerbacks slide inside off the snap while the safeties take instantly outside breaking routes. This looks like man coverage for a second if you're just watching the corners as they go with the in-breaking routes, but then it snaps to Cover 2: trap!

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This structure was a substantial part of Brown's defenses in Boston College, UConn, and Maryland. Theoretically it should surprise a quarterback expecting to run his mesh against Cover 1. You look for the RB wheel but a cornerback is breaking over it. You look for the first crosser but the linebacker is there to cut it off. You go to the hook and the free safety is coming down on it, and now you're on read 3 which is not where you want to be against any team with a half-decent pass rush, especially since you're playing five-on-five up front.

But 2018 Michigan was mostly a tourist in Cover 2 land. They ran their base 80 percent of the time because their base worked against 80% of all comers. So when they went to their trap coverage, guys didn't get to their zones. Here's David Long, now a very good NFL cornerback, setting up with inside leverage against Binjamin Victor, which is asking for a fade route. He gets the fade route.

But Michigan is running its Trap coverage. Long's zone is the flat, and the free safety is supposed to be providing support over the top. But he can't, because that safety has a slot receiver also going vertical and that takes precedence. Now, Iowa runs Cover 2 like Michigan runs Cover 1. They know all the vagaries of it. They live, eat and breathe Cover 2 like it's corn, tight end outs, traffic cones, punts, puns, or tide pods. If you're Iowa, you know if you're a Cover 2 cornerback and the slot receiver is going vertical you've just been drafted into Cover 4 duty and need to stay on your receiver. Long has probably been told this and practiced it a few times, but he's not writing the travel guide. And in the heat of the moment—a very brief one—he stops and lets the receiver get that fade that was already being baited by Long's pre-snap alignment.

Neither was ol' reliable Josh Metellus immune to Cover 2 gaffes. Ohio State checked into this next play. It's Mills, an old Steve Spurrier favorite that you'll most fondly recall as that 3rd and forever pass to Chesson against Indiana in 2015. It's a very good Cover 2 beater, because you're putting a deep crossing route across the safety's face while a post route sneaks behind him. Practiced Cover 2 safeties recognize this and stay back to deter the deep pass. Metellus was not one.

Again, note that both DEs are getting flat-out double-teamed. That leaves the DTs in one-on-one battles that they're losing. While Chris Ash stayed one step ahead of Don Brown all day, the big battle was won when one Buckeye lineman could plant one Michigan DT on the line of scrimmage and keep him there, wracking up the s.

It's fair to question why guys like Ambry Thomas, whose light has gone one this year, or Aubrey Solomon, who charted effectively when deployed previously, weren't on the field. But Michigan's in this season without a DT who's lighting anything up consistently, and is using Vincent Gray and people behind him whenever Ambry or Hill need a break, and are probably going there full time next year. So they need something they can do consistently that isn't going to expose these guys. And they have to know it like they know their base.

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Defending Crossing Routes With Switching

We saw one method Don Brown uses against crossing routes last year, weeks before the Ohio State game, when Northwestern was getting too crazy with their slant routes and Brown broke out the switching. Watch what Metellus and Kinnel do on this one:

See how Metellus bails and gets replaced by Kinnel in the above? Don Brown was asked about this on that podcast he did last summer, and explained when he makes the call (e.g. when the tight end is flexed outside) to have a switch ready, and how it's executed. You can listen at 59:39 at this link. The key comment, regarding how he plays it in his "City" (Cover 1) system is that sometimes they're going to [pattern] match, i.e. switch, and it's up to the defenders to communicate that to each other. In the Northwestern instance, Metellus has a call to yell at Kinnel.

For the first time this season Michigan was going against an offense with talent approximating what Ohio State enjoys. Specifically they have KJ "Speedy Eaglet" Hamler at slot receiver, the closest thing in the conference to a Parris Campbell or KJ Hill in breakaway speed and handling. On their first drive PSU took Hamler out of the garage, and Michigan ran the switch.

It's the same thing against Penn State from the two-high look: Hill is going to get stuck so he calls out and Hawkins takes over.

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You can see Penn State's trying to get the Indiana/Ohio State thing going with Hamler. The tight end's fade route isn't dangerous with Hudson set up over it (barring some OPI or something), but it's supposed to create traffic for Hill. Brown's response is to have Hill flip jobs with Hawkins. It ends up looking a little like their Trap but this isn't a zone coverage—it's Cover 2 man play—but it's got switches built into it. Hawkins then has a clean path to Hamler, who senses zone because there's nobody on his tail, slows up to preserve runway, and doesn't see Hawkins until it's almost 4th down.

In this instance Hawkins was an extra defender bought by having just four guys rushing. In Cover 1 that middle zone defender is called a "Rat" because he's kind of sneaking around ready to snatch whatever morsel shows. Brown also uses "Pup" for this guy, because he's bound to go chasing whatever fun or interesting thing shows up. It's really just an extra zone defender in the middle who seems special because blitzy teams that run a lot of man coverage aren't used to having more than one extra guy in coverage.

Also note which guys are doing the rushing: Paye, Danna, Hutchinson, and Uche: three defensive ends and an LB/DE hybrid. There's no Kemp or Mone here, and the stunt is a gambit to force a throw by the time Paye gets around it.

Of course there's a downside to this: you're using your deep safety to come down on a crossing route, meaning another defensive back—the one who started the play thinking he was taking a crossing route, is now your deep cover guy. This almost bit us in the ass when Penn State converted that hook to a fly route. Watch Brad Hawkins, #20, the safety lineup on the bottom hash across from Hamler.

Metellus called the switch and came down on Hamler, but Hawkins didn't get deep. Rule of thumb in coverage: if you go bonk with a teammate, someone's in the wrong spot.

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Cut Call (aka Walling)

Another trick in the Brown playbook with that extra pass defender is to have him come down and interrupt the mesh by standing in the way. I learned it as walling, but I believe Michigan calls it a "CUT!" call because "Wall to Wall" or "Wall #3 to Hole" are different linebacker instructions, and there's this from the BC 2013 playbook I have my hands on:

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We saw it used against Penn State the next time they tried to shake Speedy Eaglet loose with a pick and mesh. Watch McGrone, #44 in the middle here.

Ope.

Again this is a kind of switch based on spotting the crossing route. The linebacker's job is to find the low route (not hard when it's a TE and Hamler) and get in the way. If you listen carefully I think you can even pick up McGrone yelling "CUT!" and Metellus repeating it as he gets some additional depth. Unfortunately the pass rush didn't keep lane integrity, but at least the play call was killed.

This too has a downside. The walling defender is coming way down in his zone, and that will leave space open behind him.

You would like one of those deep zone defenders to convert to a hole defender when that happens, and yes, that's the plan according to that podcast linked above. The guy I believe is responsible is Vincent Gray, who was on the crossing route a the beginning, and has two defenders bracketing Hamler behind him.

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Lining Up with Inside Leverage

They need to stop doing this. The long shot over Ambry Thomas to Jahan Dotson and the long TD in the first half to Hamler when he beat Hawkins were both examples.

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Plain Old Cover 2

So the big thing this year is Michigan has developed another base defense. They can play Cover 2 now, and don't actually screw it up too badly. The nice thing about having both is a passing offense expecting one that gets the other will tend to run its receivers toward zone defenders, providing no throwing options. We got a great view of this on one replay, when Michigan ran its first Cover 2 zone.

Note that Hamler is alone for a half second in the middle of the field, but realizes too late that this is because he's running into a zone. By the time he downshifts a throw to him would be in range for Hudson to pick off.

Against a zone, teams that run a lot of crossing routes will teach their receivers to find zones and cut off their routes, sitting down between defenders where the quarterback should be able to find them. But football's a fast game, and if you're not expecting zone you're not in the mindset when running this route of "find some grass." You're booking it to use your speed to dust your man coverage.

The downside of Cover 2 is there always be holes in it. But if Michigan can bring out all of these tricks and execute them correctly, at least we won't have to watch them get eviscerated by Ohio State's favorite play again.

Comments

You Only Live Twice

October 23rd, 2019 at 9:20 AM ^

"Traffic cones, punts, puns and Tide Pods"  

OSU has fans who sound like they might eat Tide Pods.

 

DonBrownStache

October 23rd, 2019 at 9:21 AM ^

This felt like the perfect game to throw Dax in the mix and see if he can run with Hamler. People a lot smarter than me may be able to explain why, but my untrained eye would've loved to see him instead of Metellus on that 53 yard bomb to start the 4th quarter.

Watching From Afar

October 23rd, 2019 at 9:46 AM ^

IIRC without looking at the replay, Metellus was supposed to have help on the inside by another DB but they got screwed up in alignment. Hamler ran at Metellus with 3 options: fade, post, or probably some sort of hook. Whatever Metellus set up to stop, Hamler was going to run the route that beat it. Metellus took the fade away with outside leverage so Hamler ran the post. Could argue that Metellus should have taken away the post since he didn't have any help, but if the call had been ran properly he would have so he set up to run Hamler into the help he should have had.

I agree on the basic idea that Hill should be out there because he's the fastest guy on the defense and can erase those kinds of screw ups that Metellus and Hawkins can't. Much like OSU last year, and as Seth alluded to; Watson could compete with 9/10 guys he faced all season even if he screwed up a bit. But if he gave an inch to Olave it was over. Thomas might have been able to recover from a false step unlike Watson. Hill might be able to recover from a false step unlike Hawkins/Metellus. Athleticism can beat great coaching and unfortunately Hamler had the athleticism.

JHumich

October 23rd, 2019 at 12:29 PM ^

If everyone does what they're supposed to, Metellus is ok. 

But isn't that part of the issue? As we get more complex, and learning curve goes up, we can less afford mistakes. Dax's speed can't miraculously make up for all mistakes--it just gives him a little more leeway.

I'm sure he's getting there, but I've gotta think the coaching staff knows better than we do. They're obviously willing to play him, so it's not some weird senior pecking-order thing like in Hoke days.

Seth

October 23rd, 2019 at 9:36 AM ^

The plays he made were all over the top. He had a 3rd and 3 TD versus Hawkins where Michigan left their safety out to dry, and a missed assignment where Michigan got tempoed and didn't get the playcall to everybody, and Hawkins (IIRC) wasn't in the right call.

Only the 3rd and 3 was possibly related to Michigan's crossing route defense.

ak47

October 23rd, 2019 at 11:16 AM ^

The problem is OSU is going to have multiple guys with Hamler speed on the field and so they are going to get those matchups that Hamler toasted us on. I just don't see a world where Michigan does any better against OSU than they did against PSU so unless the offense take a massive step forward we are still screwed because we aren't going to win this game scoring 21 points.

DelhiWolverine

October 23rd, 2019 at 11:23 AM ^

Seth,

Neck Sharpies are perhaps one of my favorite parts about MgoBlog. I love football but never played it and the way you go about showing how different plays work is really interesting and helpful. I am finding myself watching the games live and beginning to actually understand what I'm looking at as it happens. The GIFs you use are a great tool and I like being able to slow them down and look at what's happening multiple times. Your annotations in the GIF are also very helpful to key in on what's happening. All in all, really good stuff. Looking forward to the next one of these that you do.

 

Zok

October 23rd, 2019 at 10:49 AM ^

Exactly. If we can’t contain 1 Hamler (and we did not, he still won the game for them despite us know he is their entire O) then there is not much hope for OSU and Hamlerx3

<recruiting guy nodding his head right here, sorry I’m guilty >

Right now we have to get cute on D and mix it up hoping we don’t screw up at the wrong time... ain’t gonna happen. 

really, we just need a talent upgrade. No reason UM shouldnt be rolling out an NFL an caliber DT and DL every year (like OSU and half of the SEC). We are basically there at CB#1 and CB#2. CB#3 will always probably be a crap shoot but ideally it can be a speedster frosh that is being groomed to be a future CB#1-2.

Basically needs more DTs. Makes the entire D better. 
 

teldar

October 23rd, 2019 at 11:17 AM ^

No reason Michigan shouldn't be rolling out those players except they have to win to get those guys. And Harbaugh has made massive gaffes in coaching over the last 5 years and still is not getting those guys. Maybe if the offense looks like something that's not a disaster, Michigan will get more of those guys.

 

Most high end guys are not going to go to Michigan to lose in shitty ways to all comers. Sorry, but true.

Dizzy

October 23rd, 2019 at 5:12 PM ^

It's not that easy to recruit at Michigan. OSU and the SEC are going to cheat to win. Just look at Isaiah Wilson and Otis Reese. Those guys were committed(!) and decided to take the money last minute (Justin Fields was in that Georgia class, too). Harbaugh isn't willing to compromise the integrity of the program to win. 

If you want to complain about Harbaugh not landing enough 5 stars, just understand what you're indirectly asking for. 

Michigan will probably always be at a talent disadvantage compared to the top teams in CFB, because the top teams all pay top dollar for their talent. Just what it is right now.

denardsdreads

October 23rd, 2019 at 9:04 PM ^

Stop with this. Cheating in college football has been going on for a long time and UM found a way to do just fine despite it. They have more resources than 99.9% of the schools they recruit against. Juwan Howard is landing guys that everyone said were impossible under Beilein in a sport that is just as dirty if not more so. 

trueblueintexas

October 24th, 2019 at 3:28 PM ^

College basketball was extremely dirty. I also think some of that dirt has been cleaned up with more o come. Some of the key figures from the shoe companies are already behind bars or fired from their positions. The shoe companies are having to be much more careful on how they do business. 

Sure there is still significant cheating, but it is a little less than it used to be. 

Watching From Afar

October 23rd, 2019 at 11:24 AM ^

Yeah I'm not going to agree with a lot of this.

Hamler's 2nd TD had nothing to due with a talent disparity. Metellus (All-Conference guy) was supposed to have center field help but didn't. Unless you have Earl Thomas out there, no safety is covering Hamler when he has a full route tree 1 on 1. I would have liked to see Hill try and track him down, but even then you're asking a guy to cover about 45 square yards on his own. Not happening. Last year OSU had multiple NFL DBs on their defense and Hamler dusted all of them for a 75+ yard TD on a freaking slant. Sometimes athletes get loose.

The TD on Hawkins was a standard man coverage play that he got beat over the top. Yes, he's not the athlete Hamler is. Hudson on the other hand is more athletic (faster and quicker at least) than PSU's TE and got beat as well so sometimes having more athleticism isn't enough (especially with a push off from the TE).

"Getting cute" on defense is not what's happening. No team in the country runs Man Cover 1 100% of the time. That takes NFL DBs left and right to do. Saban doesn't even run that. 2016 was the closest Michigan will ever come to running that every single down because they had Lewis, Stribling (who was not a good recruit) Hill, and Thomas to erase errors. Even then, they got beat from time to time.

You have to be capable of running multiple defensive sets. MSU runs Cover 4 as their base. If they only run Cover 4 they get eaten alive because every defensive set has a weakness. The ability to run at least 2 or 3 sets confidently is what makes a defense great. Last year, Michigan couldn't run 2 sets well so OSU ran circles around them. I was annoyed Thomas didn't get any run last year when it was apparent Watson couldn't keep up, but even had Thomas been in, I don't think he's making up 3 yards on Olave because the defense was set up to get picked on by pick plays that OSU was running.

Better athletes? Sure, get the best guys you can every time. Does that solve every problem? Not even close.

Zok

October 23rd, 2019 at 3:17 PM ^

Better DL and PSU is not getting the time to make these throws though right? 

i mean at DL it’s an athlete game. You have them or you don’t and if they are good it makes the back 7s job a lot easier. I would argue our DL strength had more to do with our cover 1 approach in 2016. Or at least as much as our CBs. We’ve had consistently good / great CB play for several years now under multiple guys. It’s when we lose Hurst, Winovich, or Gary that our D suddenly gets “exposed”. Latter two were a step or to slow despite double teams vs OSU last year. Just bad luck that our DEs were banged up that game.


Anyways, I’m just saying at a certain point even the best D is going to have missed assignments and it will happen more often the more complex or cute the D needs to get to compensate for lack of personal.

this is where just having better athletes who can make plays trumps all.

we are not keeping OSU or any elites offense in the 20s now that the spread cat is out of the bag. Just not going to happen on a consistent basis. 
 

- quick wiki search

we have kept OSU in the 20s twice since 2007. We lost both games...

Pre 2002 it happened on the regular 

 

 

 

 

 

MGoBlue96

October 23rd, 2019 at 10:29 AM ^

So what you are telling me is this whole season is one big long con to work on the stuff that will allow them to pull a massive upset against OSU? Now I can sleep easy.

ak47

October 23rd, 2019 at 10:35 AM ^

The OSU section just made me angry at the offense again. Its 7-6 and you are getting the ball with 14 minutes left in the second quarter against a bad defense and somehow with 4 minutes left in the quarter OSU is going up 21-6. You've now had at least two drives against a bad defense that gave up 40 to Maryland and you can't do shit. And then by some miracle when we got the ball in the second half down one score again they couldn't do anything to put any pressure on osu again. The offense might not be what we are looking for this year but moving on from last year was the right call. That offense couldn't beat a single team that could line up athletically with them because it didn't make a defense think at all.

Zok

October 23rd, 2019 at 10:53 AM ^

Agreed. 
 

warching those clips and time / score I was surprised how close it was still at certain points. 
 

a competent O can go a long way. Or at least one that can run the call some.

 

I honestly think just an upgrade at DT and OL (with consistent scheme yoy) is all we need. The rest will fall into place. I feel like at some point we have to get a decent spread QB. Even if it’s by luck 

 

Warrior-poet

October 23rd, 2019 at 10:35 AM ^

Thanks Seth. Awesome stuff. The general feel I get from watching these clips is that the safeties have to communicate and adjust very quickly when routes turn vertical. The other thing that concerns me Especially when the LB is cutting off the crosser is that there is a vulnerability to get gashed by QB draw especially if the DL loses gap integrity, which clearly happened in the last clip.

goblue4321

October 23rd, 2019 at 10:54 AM ^

so maybe this did or didn't happen I don't remember and I guess who cares. why didn't M rush 4 against osu with winovich, gary, paye, uche. move gary inside, next winovich, osu gona put 4 blockers to one side, now try to stop uche and paye. better than mone who just played patty cake

Seth

October 23rd, 2019 at 11:08 AM ^

I don't know. Hubris probably. Had the #1 defense so roll with the guys you've got. IIRC Aubrey Solomon was unavailable. Never did get the full story.

Michigan did try to get more pass rush inside with kwity paye but he didn't get very much. 

WolverBean

October 23rd, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^

Why Gary never moved inside remains a mystery to me in general. Even dating back to his recruiting profile, that was always the expectation. I realize that Don Brown built his entire defense around Gary as Anchor, and that Gary's athleticism made him extremely valuable in nerfing e.g. off-tackle runs, and that his pass rush was a major part of Winovich's sack numbers. But on a team with promising young DEs and not much at DT, and with a guy like Gary who could almost certainly be productive (albeit in a different role) in the middle, seems like moving Gary inside gets you a better overall 11 on the field even if it doesn't maximize your use of Gary himself. I wonder if promises were made, or maybe I'm just not as smart as the coaches. But this one always puzzled me.

LeCheezus

October 24th, 2019 at 10:26 AM ^

Negbang me all you want but the only thing that makes sense to me is that Gary wanted to be a pass rush/WDE type of guy and for whatever reason the staff allowed it.  Dropped from around 300lbs down to mid 270's.  What top/highly ranked SDE have you ever heard of losing 10% of their weight in college? Relied too much on speed rushes and ran himself out of plays and gave up a lot of scrambling lanes.  I watched the Packers game on MNF a few weeks back (maybe SNF? can't remember) and here's Gary trying to get around the edge at 12 yards again, constantly running himself out of the play.  

I'm not saying he's a bad player or selfish or whatever.  He was a terror to block on first and second down and teams had to plan around him.  Third down? Very inconsistent.  Winovich, even for some of his gambling on pass rush, was and is a better pass rusher.  If Gary bulks up to a solid 300lbs and plays 3T last year with Paye at Anchor I would bet a lot that is a better overall line than what we put out there.

GRBluefan

October 23rd, 2019 at 11:24 AM ^

Can't say enough how awesome it is to have this type of analysis available on this site!  I definitely learned some things, even if they were mostly depressing.

lhglrkwg

October 23rd, 2019 at 11:39 AM ^

Great write up. It's great to see us learn and adjust. However, I remain firmly entrenched in BPONE because it seems like OSU is always a step ahead of us.

The flip side of that, is Fields seems more JT Barrett and less Haskins so hopefully those gameplans we had in 2016-2017 will be effective. Most of what I see Fields doing is throwing to pretty wide open guys. Hopefully when he's forced to throw into tighter windows, he'll slow up.

But who am I kidding. They'll find some dumb way to eviscerate us again.

AlbanyBlue

October 23rd, 2019 at 11:45 AM ^

Great job, Seth, as always!

RE: athletes. We do have one at safety. Dax should have been on Hamler instead of Hawkins.

If he wasn't ready, he should have been made ready by playing him against the weaker teams. That's one of the reasons you play weaker teams. 

Unforgivable coaching mistake, especially given what happened last year against Indiana and OSU. It boggles the mind that we pay Brown this much money to make mistakes of this magnitude that are clear to casual observers. Get your best players on the field and let them learn.

But wait, you say, what if they screw up? Then Hamler might score a touc...... wait? What?