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9 weeks 1 day ago Thank You

For writing this.  One of my fondest, if not my fondest, sports-related memories, and I had kind of worried it had been mostly forgotten. 

1 year 10 weeks ago FUCK

YES

1 year 18 weeks ago As someone who was not thrilled about his hire...

...and who is still not "sold" by any stretch of the imagination, I have no issues whatsoever with how he has conducted himself so far. 

1 year 18 weeks ago Thanks, Brian

This is one of the best posts I have ever read on this blog.  You play a large role in me remaining sane as a Michigan fan. 

1 year 18 weeks ago No worries

The more people who say it the better.

1 year 18 weeks ago An open reply to your letter

I am not happy about the Hoke hire.  Not because I hate him or anything (I actually know very little about him), but because of the apparent motivations for the hire.  Its not about the sexiness of the hire at all (I actually preferred Hoke to Miles).  I (and I assume many of the other people upset by his hire) feel that: (1) previous ties to the university should not have mattered and unnecessarily limited the field of potential candidates; (2) "loving" michigan does not win games and anyone who comes here to coach is going to "love" it in all the relevant ways anyway; and (3) the new coach should not have been (or maybe, due to the annoyingness of program alumni, should not have had to have been) the guy that simply was most comfortable to old players and coaches and administrators.  I don't think any games were lost against Michigan St. or OSU over the past three years because anyone failed to "get" the rivalries or anything.

All that being said, I am first and foremost a Michigan fan.  I will support and pull for Hoke.  And sometimes the right guy is hired for the wrong reasons; I hope that this is the case (and am even cautiously optimistic it could be).  But -- to those of you who are highly supportive of this hire -- please, please stop trying to force everyone to be immediately and 100% on board with it.  There have been many, many arguments about why is this a good or bad hire, and I won't get into them, but suffice it to say that acting as if this is a perfectly ideal hire is silly (as is acting as if it was the worst possible hire in the history of football).  And being a fan is also about bitching about decisions one sees as wrong or misguided.

Many of us are still getting over the end of the brief era of Michigan football where it appeared the program was breaking out of its traditional mold.  No matter how unsuccessful it may have been, it was exciting for us.  So give us a few weeks, let us vent, and we'll be there in the fall screaming like we always have.  Go blue.

1 year 19 weeks ago I didn't call the offensive style/system

"stubborn" and "old school."  I called the attitude reflected by that quote stubborn and old school.  Please read the post.  I also said I had no problem with any system; I'm not trying to say pro-style is better or worse than read-option-based spread or anything else.  If a coach wants to run pro-style, or passing-based spread, or anything else because he thinks that best fits the team, or because he knows and believes in it, great.  I'm all for it.  I just don't want someone who resists certain styles of football because they aren't "real football" or something.  That attitude is troubling to me.  The quote by Hoke I referenced suggests he might be among the people who think that, and that makes me wary of him.

1 year 19 weeks ago The "basketball on grass" thing...

...troubles me not because I think it suggests what type of system he runs or would run, but because it reflects one of those stubborn, old-school, resistant-to-change kind of attitudes I would strongly prefer the coach not have (regardless of how many 1,000 yard receivers he coached this year).

And I don't care too much about the tough transition thing.  Selfishly and myopically I'd love to get a guy that keeps Denard around and uses him well, but that shouldn't be driving the decisionmaking.  The new coach should be the guy that will make Michigan *good* in 3-4 years, not less bad next next year.  I'm fine with any system the new coach wants to run (assuming its effective), I just don't really want a guy who thinks zone blocking is for pussies.

1 year 19 weeks ago Count me as one of the blind followers...

...I guess.  I have watched zero SDSU games this year.  I will be upset if Brady Hoke is the coach.  But I will be upset because I think he gives the program less of a chance of being successful in the long run than some of the other coaches being discussed (and Rodriguez, for that matter).  I am leery of people who call the spread "basketball on grass." I don't really give a fuck what previous ties to the University someone has (and think that it would be a huge mistake to base decisions on this "Michigan Man" kind of stuff, or onunderstanding the Michigan culture or something).  And, well, once you strip down the Michigan man crap, then you have a coach has been moderately successful at two small programs and who by all accounts knows football well.  That's just not enough for me.  I don't know how anyone has much of an idea how he'll be as a recruiter at a major program [insert anecdotal objection re: Tom Brady].

 

Will I shut the fuck up if he wins 10+ games a season at Michigan?  You bet.   I just don't think it will happen.  I have nothing against Hoke.  I just don't think he should be seriously considered as a coach for Michigan based on what we know about him now.  Its possible he would do well.  Its also possible there are a bunch of no-name 1-AA coaches or HS coaches that would do well.  That possibilty doesn't mean I don't get to be upset if they are being discussed as candidates. 

1 year 19 weeks ago Hmmm...

Straw man much?  One could just as easily write:

OMG

I LOVE DB HE IS AWESOME AND I TRUST THAT NO MATTER WHAT HE IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB.  EVEN IF IT IS BRADY HOKE IT WILL BE BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST COACH IN THE COUNTRY AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION DB HAS.  IF WHAT MICH DOES LOOKS GOOD FROM THE OUTSIDE ITS BECAUSE DB IS A GENIUS; IF IT LOOKS BAD ITS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INSIDE INFO.

 

And somehow I feel like people would be talking past each other.

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