does it count against both scholarship totals or do Hoke and Belein get to decide who has to take the hit? (I'd assume Football would take the hit because he's mainly a football recruit)
Edit: Didn't see it answered below...Thanks.
If he's getting a football scholarship would he need a basketball one? Couldnt he technically be a basketball walk on?
To be honest I am surprised there hasn't been any schools to abuse that loophole to gain extra scholarship players
I don't have to be a basketball expert to know that places a huge strain on the kid. Especially with school work.
I was not specifically referring to basketball, but other scholarship sports as well. I know that Miami (YTM) had at least one football player who is on a track and field scholarship. Since it is only one and he apparently was a track guy that they thought might work out at WR/CB, it was legit. But surveying football teams around the league, there seem to be a handful of football players at each school who also run track, whom could of also easily qualified for a track scholarship as well.
Just to be clear in no way am I advocating that Michigan does this, I am just surprised some coaches (cough SEC cough) have not used this to gain a couple of extra scholarship football players.
EDIT: By reading below I guess I am wrong with this, but I swear I read somewhere that it happened at Miami with that one guy.
I think it was Latwan Anderson
He would count for every sport he competed in, regardless of whether the money came out of the "football fund" or "basketball fund"; he would count against both the 85 for football and the 13(?) for basketball.
Turns out we are both wrong, he would only count for football.
Maybe it's a specific football rule, because I remember seeing an explination about why Denard couldn't be on track scholarship and saying he would double count.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me to see that football was the only sport it applied to, it makes sense, being the biggest moneymaker and all.
Yea it seems to be specific to football and basketball, only if the other overlapping sport is not football.
You are correct with Denard, if he was initially on a track scholarship and then also played football, then his scholarships would count to both sports. Instead, he is just on a football scholarship and also runs track, but he does not count towards a track scholarship.
not sure about the other way around.
So Duke can use their crappy football program as a way to stockpile the last two McDonald's All Americans that they didn't have before? Heck of a system . . .
He'd be on a football scholarship if he plays both sports. From wikipedia:
Rules for multi-sport athletes
The NCAA also has rules specifying the sport in which multi-sport athletes are to be counted, with the basic rules being:[17]
- Anyone who participates in football is counted in that sport, even if he does not receive financial aid from the football program. An exception exists for players at non-scholarship FCS programs who receive aid in another sport.
- Participants in basketball are counted in that sport, unless they also play football.
From a practical standpoint he could miss the beginning of the basketball season, but not the end of football.
I am pretty sure once he has a football scholarship, he can be a walk on to the Michigan baskball team (or vise versa). The kid from Glenville, Latwan Anderson (I think thats correct) last year had a scholarship for Miami (YTM) for track, but played on the football team since all the scholarships for football were taken. That might be one way some schools get around the 85 number for football and allow kids to play 2 sports in college.
Yeah I'm pretty sure it counts against the football limit and not basketball.
It absolutely does. It's been talked about before on the board. A two-sport athlete that plays football automatically counts toward the football scholarship cap. Otherwise, you're absolutely right, schools would utilize that loophole. You'd find tons of football players suddenly "playing" small secondary sports.
If my last name were Banner, I think I'd have to name my first two sons David and Bruce.
I would be pleasantly surprised if he actually follows through with his visit. I think all of our OL slots will be filled by then.That is if the coaches accept everyone who wants to commit by that time.
I remember TVH's interview with Banner's coach and he mentioned that Banner was school president and could be POTSA. Of the schools in the 9, I don't see any others that have produced a president let alone one that played on their football team...on their offensive line.
What's POTSA?
I'm guessing he meant POTUS (President of the United States).
President of the Student Association (MSA)?
Beilein needs to recognize talent when it's staring him in the face. We need a shot blocker like him.
According to NCAA rules if an athlete plays football and another sport, his scholarship automatically counts as a football scholarship. It is true that LaTwan Anderson was given a track scholarship at Miami, but he was not allowed to participate in football activities during his freshman year or his scholarship would've counted againt the football cap. The plan was for LaTwan to participate in only track during his first year on campus and then join the football team for his second year at the school. I believe that he transferred between his freshman and sophomore years so he was never actually on Miami's football team.
I want Zack Banner because he's big, good, and wants to play hoops for us, too.
I'll buy THAT for a dollar.