i find this extremely interesting
Zack Banner down to 9 schools.
June 15th, 2011 at 8:17 AM | 
If he were to play both,
If he were to play both,
June 14th, 2011 at 7:33 PM |
If he's getting a football
If he's getting a football
If he's getting a football scholarship would he need a basketball one? Couldnt he technically be a basketball walk on?
June 14th, 2011 at 7:59 PM |
He does not need a basketball
He does not need a basketball
He does not need a basketball scholarship to play on the team. All he needs is a football scholarship (or basketball if possible), and he is free to play both sports. To be honest I am surprised there hasn't been any schools to abuse that loophole to gain extra scholarship players in one sport while they are on scholarship for another (he would be on both teams, but only be a factor in the sport he is not on scholarship)
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June 14th, 2011 at 8:12 PM |
To be honest I am surprised
To be honest I am surprised
To be honest I am surprised there hasn't been any schools to abuse that loophole to gain extra scholarship players
I don't have to be a basketball expert to know that places a huge strain on the kid. Especially with school work.
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:08 PM |
I was not specifically
I was not specifically
I was not specifically referring to basketball, but other scholarship sports as well. I know that Miami (YTM) had at least one football player who is on a track and field scholarship. Since it is only one and he apparently was a track guy that they thought might work out at WR/CB, it was legit. But surveying football teams around the league, there seem to be a handful of football players at each school who also run track, whom could of also easily qualified for a track scholarship as well.
Just to be clear in no way am I advocating that Michigan does this, I am just surprised some coaches (cough SEC cough) have not used this to gain a couple of extra scholarship football players.
EDIT: By reading below I guess I am wrong with this, but I swear I read somewhere that it happened at Miami with that one guy.
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June 14th, 2011 at 10:45 PM |
I think
I think
I think it was Latwan Anderson
June 14th, 2011 at 9:06 PM |
He would count for every
He would count for every
He would count for every sport he competed in, regardless of whether the money came out of the "football fund" or "basketball fund"; he would count against both the 85 for football and the 13(?) for basketball.
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:09 PM |
Turns out we are both wrong,
Turns out we are both wrong,
Turns out we are both wrong, he would only count for football.
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:12 PM |
Maybe it's a specific
Maybe it's a specific
Maybe it's a specific football rule, because I remember seeing an explination about why Denard couldn't be on track scholarship and saying he would double count.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me to see that football was the only sport it applied to, it makes sense, being the biggest moneymaker and all.
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:28 PM |
Yea it seems to be specific
Yea it seems to be specific
Yea it seems to be specific to football and basketball, only if the other overlapping sport is not football.
You are correct with Denard, if he was initially on a track scholarship and then also played football, then his scholarships would count to both sports. Instead, he is just on a football scholarship and also runs track, but he does not count towards a track scholarship.
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:37 PM |
a basketball scholarship would count against the football number
a basketball scholarship would count against the football number
not sure about the other way around.
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June 14th, 2011 at 9:41 PM |
I don't know about this
I don't know about this
So Duke can use their crappy football program as a way to stockpile the last two McDonald's All Americans that they didn't have before? Heck of a system . . .
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June 14th, 2011 at 8:21 PM |
He'd be on a football
He'd be on a football
He'd be on a football scholarship if he plays both sports. From wikipedia:
Rules for multi-sport athletes
The NCAA also has rules specifying the sport in which multi-sport athletes are to be counted, with the basic rules being:[17]
- Anyone who participates in football is counted in that sport, even if he does not receive financial aid from the football program. An exception exists for players at non-scholarship FCS programs who receive aid in another sport.
- Participants in basketball are counted in that sport, unless they also play football.
From a practical standpoint he could miss the beginning of the basketball season, but not the end of football.
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June 15th, 2011 at 11:39 AM |
Scholarships
Scholarships
I am pretty sure once he has a football scholarship, he can be a walk on to the Michigan baskball team (or vise versa). The kid from Glenville, Latwan Anderson (I think thats correct) last year had a scholarship for Miami (YTM) for track, but played on the football team since all the scholarships for football were taken. That might be one way some schools get around the 85 number for football and allow kids to play 2 sports in college.
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June 14th, 2011 at 7:44 PM |
Yeah I'm pretty sure it
Yeah I'm pretty sure it
Yeah I'm pretty sure it counts against the football limit and not basketball.
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June 14th, 2011 at 8:26 PM |
It absolutely does. It's
It absolutely does. It's
It absolutely does. It's been talked about before on the board. A two-sport athlete that plays football automatically counts toward the football scholarship cap. Otherwise, you're absolutely right, schools would utilize that loophole. You'd find tons of football players suddenly "playing" small secondary sports.
Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.
June 14th, 2011 at 7:56 PM |
Apropos of nothing
Apropos of nothing
If my last name were Banner, I think I'd have to name my first two sons David and Bruce.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:04 PM |
i dunno
i dunno
I would be pleasantly surprised if he actually follows through with his visit. I think all of our OL slots will be filled by then.That is if the coaches accept everyone who wants to commit by that time.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:44 PM |
I remember TVH's interview
I remember TVH's interview
I remember TVH's interview with Banner's coach and he mentioned that Banner was school president and could be POTSA. Of the schools in the 9, I don't see any others that have produced a president let alone one that played on their football team...on their offensive line.
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June 15th, 2011 at 7:02 AM |
Banner was school president and could be POTSA.
Banner was school president and could be POTSA.
What's POTSA?
June 15th, 2011 at 8:17 AM |
I'm guessing he meant POTUS
I'm guessing he meant POTUS
I'm guessing he meant POTUS (President of the United States).
June 15th, 2011 at 8:32 AM |
President of the Student
President of the Student
President of the Student Association (MSA)?
June 15th, 2011 at 12:57 AM |
Beilein needs to recognize
Beilein needs to recognize
Beilein needs to recognize talent when it's staring him in the face. We need a shot blocker like him.
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June 15th, 2011 at 7:55 AM |
I want Zack Banner because
I want Zack Banner because
I want Zack Banner because he's big, good, and wants to play hoops for us, too.
I'll buy THAT for a dollar.
does it count against both scholarship totals or do Hoke and Belein get to decide who has to take the hit? (I'd assume Football would take the hit because he's mainly a football recruit)
Edit: Didn't see it answered below...Thanks.
Yes...that guy.