Sucks to be Al Golden right now. Also, please peer to the right and notice that Robert Marve is being investigated. U MAD DANNY HOPE!?
Edit: Individual player pages are up.
WOW. I just finished reading it and that is all I can say. It is so juicy and filled with so much information. If this guy comes out with a book it is going to be a must read.
RIP Miami Football.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
If only the NCAA would allow programs to cover the cost of Cristal and abortions none of this would ever happen.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
This would seem to qualify as very bomby. Miami football will receive the death penalty if these claims are true.
Lack of Institutional Control
Death Penalty
Hide ya kids, hide ya wife.
They are going to get hammered... freaking hard. I'll go up to $100 that they won't get the Death Penalty.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Unless Al Golden is "fired" and says he acted alone and the university had no knowledge of anything improper. If Miami does that they'll be fine. They just need to follow the OSU playbook.
/s
Alex: Backup QB is the best position in sports. In fact I get drunk all the time, I don't have to show up to class, and it's just like being a real QB but without all the pain.
I thought Al Golden was just hired at the U. That would be a pretty ironic defense. I think the best part of the story is that he was paying for all this stuff with illegally obtained ponzi money.
I think the only way this will ever end is to turn college football and basketball programs into minor league affiliates of the school or a pro team. Drop the "student athlete" title and just pay the guys a salary. Or IF they want an education they could still take a scholarship as payment. You generally don't see these kind of problems in college baseball or hockey because guys don't have to go to college to get to the pros. I'm not saying this is what I want, but I think there's too much money and power being thrown around for these sports to remain "amateur" athletics.
Does it make me a bad Michigan fan if the first thing I thought when I read this was: "Holy crap, this makes OSU's violations look like impermissible stretching?"
If it does, then I'm right there with you.
Damn right. I just finished the second paragraph of the story and my jaw is on the floor. This sounds significantly bigger than OSU's problems.
not at all, because it completely takes the negative spotlight off of osu, which is not what we want
If this makes osu's violations look like impermissible stretching, what did we do.
We should be expunged for any and all wrong doing now or at least remove the "major" part of the description.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
guy to come forward, to the NCAA or other, and bring the photos/stained dress/ blood samples this time
Remember Gary Condit? The CA congressman who had been having an affair with an intern who turned up murdered in DC? His scandal was the biggest headline in the nation ... on September 10, 2001. You never heard about him after that.
Tonight, the state of Ohio collectively exhales, and quotes the former congressman: "Whew."
"You know, for a bartender/bookie, you're pretty judgmental."
I've never seen the word "douche" appear so many times in an article without actually being spelled out.
Or perhaps I just saw the picture of Douche Shapiro with Winslow and that's all I could think about.
EDIT: cut and paste fail
I was trying to paste in the list of players involved.
A who's who of Miami football, and a ton of current players.
For those clamoring for the death penalty in OSU's case; it was never feasible. Why? Because there would be nothing left to punish Miami with...
Robinson:
We have corroborating sources, either human, document or photographic, on at least 72 Miami players or former recruits receiving benefits.
Some of it is just ridiculous. Example:
Abortion: In one instance, Shapiro described taking a player to the Pink Pony strip club and paying for a dancer to engage in sex with the athlete. In the ensuing weeks, Shapiro said the dancer called one of his security providers and informed him that the player had gotten her pregnant during the incident. Shapiro said he gave the dancer $500 to have an abortion performed, without notifying the player of the incident. “I was doing him a favor,” the booster said. “That idiot might have wanted to keep [the baby].”
another school that is the 10/10?
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
Me. Miami seems to have more players than actual fans. I don't think I've ever met a Miami fan in the wild.
Would have loved to see an SEC school.
Yes. It would have been more enjoyable if it was the Miami of the late 1980's.
I would have been more shocked if they had reported that Miami players *weren't* receiving tons of extra benefits. They even nicknamed him after the last guy that paid for their rule breaking.
Yeah. I definitely figured it was a school in the south, but I wanted it to be Auburn, Alabama, or Florida. Honetly, one of the least-surprising findings I could have imagined for a "name" CFB team. Still, the stories they have to tell are amazing.
The loser gets the death penalty. I can't wait for that game as the commentary leading up to it should be pure entertainment.
It'll be Convicts vs...Convicts?
Abort, Retry, Fail?
Wow not to make light of Tressel etc. but this is stuff the pros probably wouldn't even get away with under Goodell's regime...
What a fantastic read. If half of that is true, Miami is in very serious trouble. The stuff in that article is crazy.
Robert Marve is on the list, for all you Purdue haters.
For him and purdue this season?
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
Rob Henry will still start and Purdue will still suck.
Who hates Purdue?
"Vegeta, what does the scanner say about Denard Robinson's power level?"
"It's OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!"
Miami Football meet curb, your about to get stomped.
Wow! Dont mess with Yahoo! Sports and Chucky Robinson. I guess the Dolphins aren't the only pro team in Miami. Heck, Dolphin players are going to start complaining that they're under-compensated.
I think they have to get hammered. But I doubt they will get the death penalty. The NCAA has said they will never do it again. It will be a massive bowl ban and scholly reduction that will make the usc sanctions look like a love tap.
Just do it!
I think the NCAA has to do the death penalty, there is no other punishment that covers what took place.
Semper Fidelis
Don't get me wrong I think the U should get the death penalty. I just don't think the NCAA has the cajones to hand out the death penalty again.
Just do it!
Ding dong Miami's dead.
I know people in the NCAA have said they wouldn't give out the death penalty again. Miami's case is going to test them. USC's violations were very similar, but less widespread, with far less complicity from the school and for a much shorter period of time. Miami was also guilty of similar widespread violations in the past. Their case is going to demand a significantly stiffer penalty than USC got. I don't know that there's much room between that and the death penalty, maybe eliminate scholarships in FB and MBB for a few years.
Eating is murder.
What's the name of that elite RB who supposedly has us #2 right now behind Miami?
Hello: that guy?
Stop what you're doing and read it.
This is great stuff.