December 8th, 2022 at 9:39 AM ^
Hmmm, I'm skeptical, but I guess I'll see what the author has to say.
December 8th, 2022 at 11:17 AM ^
We should post this on the Board at RCMB and 11 Warriors - maybe we can help change their collective hearts and minds about the University of Michigan and our football program.
/s (dripping with it)
December 8th, 2022 at 11:21 AM ^
Psh. New York Times is part of the "blue wall". Still waiting for that RCMBer to take down the blue wall...any day now...
December 8th, 2022 at 11:30 AM ^
Sources tell me are hatching a secret*** plan to fight the LONG war.
***Secret meaning posted on RCMB and Twitter - but for Sparty eyes only.
December 8th, 2022 at 9:40 AM ^
Spoiler alert: Not about football or the team. It's about the plight of the state of Michigan since 1997.
December 8th, 2022 at 9:55 AM ^
I remember during the 2009 final four in Detroit, national media types had the same reaction to state’s surprise championship game run in the wake of the recession/bankrupties, acting like the team was bringing a joy to all downtrodden Michiganders everywhere, as if half the state wasn’t actively praying on Tom Izzo’s downfall lmao
December 8th, 2022 at 10:06 AM ^
Well, I'm a bit biased as a native, but I'd say Michigan is a more likable state than Georgia, Ohio, or Texas.
December 8th, 2022 at 10:09 AM ^
i thoroughly enjoyed my time in TX....
December 8th, 2022 at 11:37 AM ^
Then why'd you end up in PA?
December 8th, 2022 at 12:11 PM ^
He got booted.
December 8th, 2022 at 10:39 AM ^
I grew up in Michigan. Beautiful state, it's a wonderful place to watch the seasons change, and the people are generally very likeable.
After college, I lived in the Chicago suburbs most of my adult life and would not say the same about Illinois.
I now live in Georgia and like the mix of mountains, rolling hills, and sea shore. People are also very friendly (maybe not so much for those that moved here), but I do miss the snow!
December 8th, 2022 at 11:43 AM ^
I am also now a Georgia resident after growing up in/spending most of my life in Michigan. I miss it all the time, especially during football season/the fall. But I also really like living in Georgia and have found the people to be extremely nice. Which is very good for me because I am not. But it is easier to approximate nice when surrounded by others who are.
December 8th, 2022 at 11:48 AM ^
Ditto.
Swap your Chicago for Colorado here.
Hope to move back to Michigan one day though. Perhaps in the next 2 years or so.
Amazing how many people shit on "Michigan" thinking the whole state is the Cass Corridor.
Yet, all my neighbors here in Colorado summer in Traverse City and other locales up north.
December 9th, 2022 at 10:53 AM ^
That's why I never eat out in the summer in TC. But love it here in the winter.
December 8th, 2022 at 11:36 AM ^
Not an aspiring message or rationale at all.
December 8th, 2022 at 11:58 AM ^
To each their own, but I wouldn't have Georgia on that list. It's an easy place to judge from a distance, but a great state to live in with a wide variety of communities and activities to suit anyone that makes it their home.
December 8th, 2022 at 12:35 PM ^
As a semi-recent Georgia transplant, I’ve been pleasantly surprised about Georgia. Sorry, but Atlanta>Detroit:). Miss Michigan summers and falls; definite Georgia upgrade when it comes to winter and spring.
December 8th, 2022 at 1:22 PM ^
Atlanta is nice. Too bad it is surrounded by the state of Georgia.
December 8th, 2022 at 1:48 PM ^
That's exactly the bs opinion I'm talking about. "Atlanta" is massive in area and plenty of it is not "nice". Knocking everywhere else like lake lanier/allatoona, Dahlonega, Savanah, Tybee, Jekyll, Cumberland Island, Athens, Augusta, etc., is plain ignorance. Not to mention most rural towns are filled with genuinely nice people and great little places to stop in and grab a bite or shop for antiques, whatever.
December 8th, 2022 at 12:35 PM ^
Spent grad school in AA. Working in Texas, since graduation. Love both states. They are different and provide different things to do for different people. Even in terms of neighbors, and coworkers, there is a lot to choose from. Overall, I have found people to be nice during personal interactions.
A few of the bad interactions could simply be the other person being an a*hole.
December 8th, 2022 at 11:01 AM ^
As your avatar would say - "Well, the world needs ditch diggers too!"
December 8th, 2022 at 9:48 AM ^
Well it's behind a pay wall so....
December 8th, 2022 at 10:26 AM ^
just open in safari and enable Reader View
December 8th, 2022 at 11:34 AM ^
You can also block javascript and read it.
December 8th, 2022 at 1:53 PM ^
Google the title and read it elsewhere
December 8th, 2022 at 9:53 AM ^
I won’t pay to see his work but I suppose the conclusion is sound
December 8th, 2022 at 9:58 AM ^
I read it as Walter Matthau and just see a grumpy old man sports writer who is odd coupled up with a Michigan article.
December 8th, 2022 at 2:00 PM ^
It’s a good read and an interesting back story. The author grew up in rural Michigan and lives back their now with his family. Calls himself a Walmart Wolverine, a huge Michigan fan. He probably reads this blog. Made good growing up as the son of a long line of auto factory workers (it seems), has done well as a writer, and returned to his roots.
December 8th, 2022 at 9:56 AM ^
One bit of nonsense in this piece: "Unlike the Michigan State Spartans, whose fan base seems to be made up entirely of people who attended the school".
The author swallowed this bit of Sparty propaganda. Surveys have revealed that the majority of fans rooting for MSU in the annual U-M/MSU matchup never attended MSU.
December 8th, 2022 at 10:04 AM ^
You meant to say school when you inserted MSU the last time. There, fixed it for you.
December 8th, 2022 at 10:10 AM ^
Sparty SOP is to either ignore that fact or pretend the non-alum Michigan fans are somehow worse, usually through some really nasty, elitist comment about their imagined socioeconomic status (while they themselves whine incessantly about the "elitist" snobbery actual Michigan alums allegedly display toward them). Or the favorite chestnut, that at some point in their life they had their MSU education belittled by a Michigan fan who didn't attend college, which as someone who grew up the son of a Michigan alum who has always hung out on gameday with at least some non-alum fans, and who myself attended both schools, in my 41 years I've observed happening about 2-3 times. But it's apparently traumatizing for MSU grads to undergo even once and thus justifies being the whiniest and most petulant, delusional fanbase on the planet.
They, and to a lesser extent OSU fans, are of course under the delusion that the rest of America hates Michigan as much as they do and everyone is rooting against Michigan to win. I haven't scientifically surveyed but I'd actually be willing to bet most fans outside the South are rooting for Michigan to be the first non-SEC / Clemson National Champion since 2014. And let's be real, 2014 was Ohio State, which only just barely clears the bar for "not Southern," so really since USC in 2004 lol.
December 8th, 2022 at 10:36 AM ^
I'd bet most neutral observers of the playoff would have the following ordered rooting interests:
1. TCU
2. Michigan
3. Georgia/Ohio State (Tie)
December 8th, 2022 at 11:27 AM ^
That's fair, as TCU is certainly the least "blue blood" of this year's Playoff teams. I just also believe there's a not-insignificant minority of fans for whom sports fandom also has a cultural bent to it, who will be cheering for a team that can break the Southern stranglehold on college football's National Championship.
December 8th, 2022 at 11:58 AM ^
Clearly the word irony is beyond their comprehension. Worked with a guy that was a Spartan grad and didn't like that I, a WMU grad, was a UM fan and told me to stick to my little MAC team. Keep in mind I am 6 years older than him and had been a UM fan since I was 9 and never changed and that he too was a UM fan (his Dad was a UM alum) until he got his rejection letter. Hmmnnn?
December 8th, 2022 at 10:14 AM ^
That is exactly why they have an empty stadium when times are tough. Dear Mr. Coach Harbaugh, please carry on.
December 8th, 2022 at 10:38 AM ^
Not completely empty....
December 8th, 2022 at 10:41 AM ^
Caption suggestion: "I thought the game started at noon!"
December 8th, 2022 at 11:53 AM ^
So my friend had two front row seats to a Motley Crue concert at DTE. We we were so fired up and came rolling in hot and all of sudden we were like where is everyone. There were some people but not a huge crowd. And not very Motley.
We missed it by a day and showed up for a Christian Rock concert. We can laugh now but it took some time.
December 8th, 2022 at 10:32 AM ^
Still don't understand their rationale for this as a dig.
"You are such a fine and historic institution that even non-alums are fans" isn't really the demerit they are talking about when the other side of the coin is "the only people that could ever like our team are the people that went there otherwise its not a team worthy of attention."
December 8th, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^
A fair point, but if you’ve spent enough time with MSU slappies, their favorite unprompted go-to line is “I could’ve went to Michigan but chose Michigan State.”
December 8th, 2022 at 12:45 PM ^
And they would totally use the grammatically incorrect verb form, just as you suggest. Impression is spot-on.
December 8th, 2022 at 12:02 PM ^
Appreciated the author's shade for "an in-state opponent ."
December 8th, 2022 at 1:14 PM ^
I never understood how having people root for Michigan who did not attend Michigan is some kind of insult.
It's the opposite . . . people who did not go to Michigan, and who could root for anybody, root for Michigan because it is so compelling and cool. That's great.
The only people who care about MSU are the people that went to MSU, and not even all of them.
December 8th, 2022 at 10:09 AM ^
Reading this article today is crossing a digital picket line. Wait until tomorrow.
December 8th, 2022 at 11:08 AM ^
yeah, i saw an earlier link to this and read it without thinking.
no wordle or crossword puzzle, tho.
December 8th, 2022 at 11:43 AM ^
Whoops. Didn't know about the strike when I fired up Wordle this morning.
Solidarity, my brothers and sisters!
December 8th, 2022 at 12:09 PM ^
I’m assuming this also extends to The Athletic then?
December 8th, 2022 at 10:11 AM ^
its the Michigan difference!
Pure Michigan
If you seek a pleasant peninsula, look around you.
December 8th, 2022 at 10:21 AM ^
But ... but ... I thought the national media campaigned against us, and would do everything it could to keep us out of the playoffs and put Ohio State in, and ...
This really hurts our victimization narrative, doesn't it?
December 8th, 2022 at 10:26 AM ^
you have it totally backwards. its the blue wall, michigan has its hands on all the right levers, churning out propaganda for the benefit of U of M, hiding tunnel videos, bribing judges, cops, and prosecutors alike. bwahahaha, you can't stop michigan, you can only hope to contain us!!