"Coach Mattison told me what the Ravens were about, what he thought," Beyer said. "He definitely encouraged me. I hold his opinion in high regard."
Who, if any could be a bust for 2010
Great post. You know players do read this blog. Douche
give the kid a break. making a negative prediction about a player isnt exactly the kiss of death. if anything a player who reads this would want to prove those doubters wrong. not to mention people on this blog talk negatively about players abilities and performances all the time. some negative predictions even come in as the players are being recruited. its not like he commented on anyones personality
YEAH, ME TOO. I BOO TO MAKE THE PLAYERS BETTER!
You're an asshole...
Does Mike Vick count?
do we really need more negativity? I know its late, but c'mon man.
Big will is going to be good, I already see him making a goal line stand and helping us in the d line rotation.
Cam has been impressing the hell out of the coaches he'll make some mistakes early on due to nerves (he's not a M qb who never gets nervous), but he'll be fine as the season progresses.
Shaw, speed speed speed. just hit the books buddy.
where have you seen big will make any goal line stands? based on the RR presser, im not even sure big will is on the two deep. looks like adam patterson is the second string NG. hes not gonna be a goal line situational player until he can prove that he wont get thrown around by 260lb centers.
as for the latter two players, ur comments only justify the op's contention of POSSIBLE busts:
-Cams lack of experience MAY lead to costly mistakes.
-Shaw MAY not qualify.
No one said these players are doomed.
You need to comprehend the meaning of the term 'bust' before you go trying to defend its usage.
- Cam, a converted WR, can't really be a bust for this year if he makes costly mistakes, as another poster said below - lack of experience explains them.
- Big Will isn't in shape (as you said yourself), and thus cant be a bust this year - we dont expect big things from him. He needs more time. No bust.
- If Shaw doesnt quality he cant play, and thus cant be a bust this year.
You are not helping yours or the OP's case with this type of thinking.
actually im pretty confident in my understanding of the word bust, as it is relative to CURRENT expectations. The fact that people didnt expect Cam to be a great safety when he was recruited doesnt negate the possibility that peoples expectations are current pretty high. ur points regarding Cam only give cause to the possibility that those expectations are liable to be unrealized.
regarding big will, while you and I may not expect a ton from him, there are some people that do.
regarding shaw - while he may not be a bust in terms of performance, he can still be a bust in terms of his contribution to the team.
Far enough - you understand 'bust', but I think you know that you are stretching its meaning so thin as to make it meaningless. In your conceptualization, we could find almost any reason for any player to be a bust. Thus, if Mike Martin only gets 10 sacks this year instead of my expectation of 13, I will consider him a bust.
How does him being out of shape disqualify him from being labeled a bust? I'm not saying he is going to be, I think he does need more time but I don't think you can just made a broad excuse like "not in playing shape" and justify that as a reason not to be a bust.
The question is about THIS year - his being out of shape this year doesnt make him a bust. How 'busty' he is will be determined over the next few years.
can someone plz expalin how this is a neg worthy comment. i apologize for pointing out what RR said in his presser, and what possibilities (note the capitalized words above) exist in the universe.
Learn to type in English please. Once you get that down, get back to me and I'll let you know why you are getting neg'ed.
Negged for questioning how someone spends their MGoPoints.
football doesnt start in camp. Last year big will made some goal line stands. I forgot which game.
RR talking about BW is to get him motivated. Why do you think he rooms with the hulk. BW will play for this team this year in rotation
Negged for badmouthing student-athletes
were you talking about the dog or the video? Maybe it is just my computer, but the slow video made the dog even slower. It was like double slowness.
A converted WR coming out of nowhere to play FS can't ever really be considered a bust...
unless expectations are unreasonably high (not saying that they are)
The #5 and 6 spots are the only 2 positions I fear in Fantasy Football this year. Don't want to overreach for somebody, but I also don't want Frank Gore.
Frank gore better not be he needs to carry my team to the playoffs
Are you serious?Are you a true Michigan fan?You should not think like that my friend.But for real man your calling people on your team a bust,thats crazy!!!
WTF was that? Are you British? (can't you hear the accent?)
Anyway...try and hold the negativity for now...please?
Does Melanie Collins count?
she's just busty.
Will this finally be the year Doug Dutch lives up to expectations?
And whatever happened to that Antonio Bass?
the season hasn't even started yet. let it begin and then you can have the luxury of ripping on 18-22 year old kids who play football for your amusement.
I don't think Gordon will live up to expectations but I really don't think it's his fault either--a converted WR shouldn't be thrown into a starting safety spot and be expected to deliver. The coaches need to stop adulating these kids for what they do in practice. It does nothing but raise fans' expectations of them.
We've now heard the coaches praise Turner, Emilien, and Gordon for practice success. I hope all three of these guys have great careers, but it's unfair in my opinion for the coaches to put them on a pedestal like that, especially when they haven't done anything in a game thus far.
great...thanks for that additional positive feedback...
Does everything on this website have to be 100% positive? This blog, at times, can be the antithesis of free speech.
that as long as free speech is a scapegoat of being an asshole or dumbass, intelligent people will try to counter it.
But asking people to declare who they think will be a bust is just horrible. If the OP would have simply said "Who on the team do you think will underachieve/underperform?" I would have been ok with it. Labeling a kid a potential "bust" just rubs me the wrong way. IMHO.
Maybe the coaches aren't hyping them up but rather building up the confidence these inexperienced players will need to weather those early season storms.
If I were playing for Tony Gibson, I'd rather hear that I was performing well from him, not the Detroit News. But that's just me.
Yeah, Justin Turner, the kid who the coaches were saying was difficult to redshirt and keep off the field due to his progression and natural ability last fall.
Mike Shaw when he busts through a wide open hole, kicks it into high gear, and takes it to the house...
Cameron Gordon when he busts up some unsuspecting wide reciever...
and Will Campbell when he busts up plays in the backfield.
Come on guys, the season hasn't even started. Everyone knows that you can't declare someone a bust until the first game has been played. *eye roll*
Honestly, with all the question marks on this team, isn't anyone liable to be a bust? Couldn't Denard wind up throwing three picks a game or Tate make a dozen mistakes a game? This team is very young and as such, lacks much of a track record for anything. I honestly think that any given player, with the exception of Martin, Molk, and Kovacs are liable to be a bust. I include Kovacs because I am pretty certain that what we saw last season is what we will get this season- not good, but he won't drop off from that.
I am hard pressed to name anyone else who COULDNT be a bust. That's the trouble with this team- there are high hopes for these players but any one of them is still a wildcard. Roundtree could be a one-year wonder the way Odoms was, since for most of these guys we only have one year of work to judge them on.