to play football, not to play trumpet
I don't think anyone knows for sure. But I would say it is a strong possibility since the DL seems to be filling up pretty quickly. I'm hoping that Wormley and Kalis commit, although like Tom said below, it's doubtful that Kalis would commit this quickly as he wants to visit a few more schools. I can imagine seeing Kalis, Diamond and Magnuson on the OL in the future.
I hope at least one of these guys commits soon....I need a fix. I developed a bad recruiting habit with all of the early verbals.
we got some meat on that o-line
we got some meat on that o-line
the sooner Kalis commits. The sooner Kalis commits, the better Michigans chances of landing our top OLine prospects are. I hope Strobel does end up visiting with them.
Kalis is a monster, would love not to play against that guy. Wormley seems to have so great upside as well. Both would be awesome.
Does anyone read anything TomVH posts?
Akon died? Hadn't heard that.
Maybe he meant Akins. It sounds like somethiing Claude Akins would have said.
Clay Akens? I hope not, that's someone's third cousin! :(
that Tom VH posts.
just so I get TVH's tweets. Now its really is a smart-phone.
This is one that i am fairly suprised has not happened as of yet also. Im also somewhat surprised Wilson, the safety from Ohio, has not went with the good guys too.
Pretty straightforward and sincere for Beavis. Is everything ok, man?
"This could be an interesting weekend." (Wed. 6/22/11 12:24a)
I actually feel a little bad for Wilson. Yes, this is a big decision, but it sounds like hes almost distraught over making it. He has a bunch of good options there, so I don't think he should worry too much.
I'd bet $1 on it.
I'll take that bet.
Gambling on recruiting? Great, now we're gonna be in huge trouble with the NCAA.
/Cue OSU See-everybody-breaks-the-rules-so-why-are-we-in-trouble argument.
On the bright side, this would allow TomVH and JamieMac to either join forces, or to compete head-to-head. Not sure which would be better.
On Wednesday, Sam Webb stated in his recruiting roundup segment that he did NOT think that Wormley (or Kalis) would commit to UM this weekend.
It seems odd that Wormley has not committed yet as he is reportedly down to UM and OSU with OSU fading dramatically since Tressel's "resignation".
Could be he just wants to keep the terrorist OSU fans off his back a little longer. Hard to blame him if that's the case. Those people are hideous.
This kid dominated his Sophmore year then his Jr season by many experts and from the video's posted that I saw he looked very average ..You guys are acting as if he was just dominant ...I think this guy is very over rated .. His play needs to improve vastly I think this scholarship could go to a position of need not another DE or atleast 1 who showed up his Jr year ..IMHO
All I can say is, Hoke and Co. know what they are doing. I agree, his junior film isn't quite as exciting as his sophomore film, but who knows, he could have the best year his senior year. I would be more than happy if Wormley committed.
Actually, I agree with you on Wormley, but apparently the coaches are pretty high on him. Personally, I wanted Pittman a LOT more than I want Wormley.
Pittman and Wormley are very different positions though. If you wanted Pittman, then we shouldn't have taken Mario or Pharoah. They are slotted for the rush end like Pittman. Also we still have Roh, Black, and Beyer in a log jam for that position as well. I believe Pittman's coach confirmed in an interview that UM told Pittman that we were full at that position. Looks like the first come, first served kind of bit us there.
Pittman's grades may have been the thing to bite, us or him, you can take your pick. As I understand it, there's a possibility Pittman never gets on the field.
Yeah, he deffinatly didn't perform to expectations his junior season, so this year may help to determine which season was the abberant one. The thing about Wormley is that he's a physical freak allowing for a high ceiling with the right coaching. Also with his body, he has flexibility to move inside, thus the allure with Wormley. But he's been a long time lean to us, so we have hyped him a little bit too much.
Some rumors have been that he was hampered by an injury, and if not, then he definitely has the skill to be dominant. So with our 3 defensive line coaches, he could be very good.
I'd absolutely love to get Wormley.
I've heard this too, not to mention he was 1st team all-state and defensive district player of the year.
Kenny Hayes a higher 4* DE recruit to OSU was on the team last year, and I'm pretty sure Wormley was regarded as the better player. So getting double and triple team might tend to slow down the highlight reel.
Also, he has long been rumored to be OSU or Michigan, so the big time national programs haven't even bothered. Few offers = lower rankings to recruting sites.
Ya I have heard similar things. He was mentally distracted by the injury and although he was healed he wasn't comfortable enough to go all out on the field. This isn't too surprising, happens to lots of athletes. I remember I had a spring/summer of soccer where I sprained my ankles four times (twice each). Consequently, going into my high school season I was out of shape and really hesitant about rolling my ankles. Affects your mental performance. One of my friends split his head open on a header with another guy (my friend played very physically). Took him a while to get comfortable playing with reckless abandon again (but he eventually did). Let's see what Wormley does in his senior season before we write him off.
committing together this weekend. Kalis sounded really excited about playing with Stroebel (sp?), and once he gets to campus, he could be blown away and make his decision with Wormley.
I'm REALLY hopeful for Wilson though. It is a position of great need for UM...surely he sees that (please).
Here's to a GREAT weekend for Hoke & Co. Great job guys!
strong to ... quite strong.
If he has anything left to wait for, no-one knows about it.
Is a monster. I have seen him play...if he is hurt and playing this well, OMG.
Every Ohio analyst says he is in the top few players, and that state is stacked this year. Wormley is as big a rrecruit as any we get, whether or not he has that fifth star behind his name.
I think he commits this weekend...but we shall see.
I'm going up to Michigan this weekend for a summer program for two weeks. I get there Sunday, so if he's there Sunday, I somehow run into him, and somehow recognize him, you can guarantee that I'll be all up in his grill about comitting.
How about you don't do that and let him make his decision on his own. The last thing UM needs is a fan "up in [Wormley's] grill" about committing. The University and it's programs, both athletically and academically, speak for themselves.
some UM enthusiasm and fan support are good things, I think Columbus_Wolverine was expressing concern with "...up in his grill". That doesn't exactly sound like the right way to approach it.
Correct. I also don't think it would be smart to talk to him about committing. Talk to him about the school, the program, and all things UM. Don't talk to him about committing. These kids have enough pressure on them in deciding their future for some random person they've never met to come up and tell them what they should do.
Why? He knows all of this stuff. These kids know what is going on much more that you and I do? Why would you talk to him about committing or anything relating to it, I just don't get it. If you want to ask him something just ask him how the process is going or something of that nature.
Your proposed situation of talking to him about committing or talking to him about the class filling up would be like me walking up to Albert Pujols and telling him to resign a deal with the Cardinals because the market for an injured player who is showing signs of decline is not as high as it was at the beginning of the season. A.) It's all speculation B.) He knows this.
Wormley is informed, as are all the kids UM is recruiting. If you get the chance to meet him and speak to him, don't waste your breathe on telling him what to do with his life. Ask him about what he thinks of UM, offer up some little known facts about the school. Let him see the UM faithful as an understanding bunch of people, but passionate about our school. Don't let him think we are pushing people who will turn on him if he doesn't commit. Leave the hardcore recruiting to the professionals.
Yeah, everyone loves it when random strangers come up to them on the street and tell them what to do with their lives, right?
Chill out Chet. Damn.
You all need to chill out in your reply to Mich man. It was very obvious in reading his post that his tone was very light hearted, fun, and not serious. Peace out.
I am thinking his comment was laced with sarcasm. That is how I took in anyway due to the "up in his grill" comment.
him a big Go Blue and leave it at that. Recruits seem to love it when they are recognized, but they will be creeped out if you put on the recruiting pitch. That's for the coaches to do.
take it down a notch, creeper
That's something for the coaches to do. Mind yo biz.
Realizes, as a booster, you could be committing what could be perceived as a recruiting contact violation, don't you?
Leave the kids alone. You're not part of the program. Wait till they hit the field, then cheer.
Sam Webb Hinted on yesterdays show that we should not be on commitment watch for any of these guys this weekend. Although anything can happen when a kid gets on campus, and Michigan is in good shape for both of them, he doesn’t believe that a commitment is likely this weekend. Personally I say why not! Bring on the Worm!!!
Is awsome. Smart o linemen are also awesome e.g Stefan Humphries.
Yeah I dunno why Wormley is dragging out his recruitment. Normally kids want to see other schools and enjoy the recruitment process, but outside of UM, MSU, and OSU offers, Wormley's offer list isn't all that. OSU is in flames and Wormley has never mentioned MSU, so what are we missing here? Where is Wormley gonna visit, Toledo? Indiana?
I agree If Wormley leaves with thought committing this weekend it would make a strange situation stranger. Wormley’s visit seems very similar to The Erik Magnuson visit a couple of weeks ago. Seems like if he likes what he sees than he should probably just go ahead and commit. However the powers that be believes otherwise so I don’t know; We’ll see what happens when Hoke puts the Mattison on him this weekend.
Not really the same at all. Magnuson had never visited and told Tom beforehand that he planned on committing. Wormley's been to campus loads of times and still there's no sign of an impending commitment. Wormley has to know at this point what Michigan and the coaching staff are about. Why he hasn't committed baffles me frankly.
Maybe he has committed but you just don't know about it. Sometimes kids don't commit publicly early on so that schools still come to their games during senior year and happen to see/scout teammates.
Jordan Diamond said this a while back... that he isn't going to commit early because he felt a responsibility to help his teammates get seen by scouts/coaches.
True. Brings to mind Cullen Christian who was supposedly a silent for 6 months before the saga that was his announcement. I don't know if it would be to gain exposure for teammates though, because Wormley doesn't actually have a lot of offers. He basically said early on it was either Michigan or Ohio State. Who knows. Bizarre recruitment for a kid I think we all know will eventually be blue.
Yeah that makes sense, I didn’t know that Magnuson told Tom beforehand at he would commit. Your right, that changes everything. Well here is to hoping for a good weekend.
Per Caleb Stacey twitter -
@cstacey71 @KRingoUM1 talked to @JBolden_007 were in there for the bbq at the big house haha (posted today)
Stacey also responded to a tweeter and said they will definitely be doing some recruiting.
Let’s hope these guys are the difference this weekend.
but sorry to let you down but the BBQ is next weekend so maybe they will head up for both weekends and recruit.
Sounds good to me.
living in ohio I would think twice about openly committing. Hell sometimes they practically make you think twice about going to The Game down there.
I'd be ecstatic if Wormley committed. Not only will we get a great prospect, but another guy in Kalis's ear.
Meh. We're starting to get squeezed on spots and it seems like everyone in recruiting expects him to be blue so he has to pull the trigger at some point. But we've also been expecting an imminent commitment for over a year it seems. I believe Sam and Tom when they say a commitment's unlikely but I don't think it's out of the question.
So my math tells me it is 50% / 50%.
You think you've had a direct impact on recruiting by being Facebook friends with potential commits who you have never met in person? Who wouldn't recognize you if you bumped into each other on an empty sidewalk?
Brady Hoke and Greg Mattison would laugh themselves into a coronary if they read this.
(Not Wow as in, "man that's awesome." Wow as in, "dude, are you serious?")
they're saying "wow" because they didn't realize people like you existed. In fact, you seem to be "having this effect" on a lot of the people on the board.
Here is an example of a star players response and what it means: "WOW!"...(Why won't this person leave me alone? I am a teenager and just trying to get some girls on here. Not get recruiting advice from someone who only knows me because I *MIGHT* play football for the school they like. Get lost weirdo!)
Moral of the story just leave these kids alone, all you can possibly do is hurt the effort Hoke & Co. have put forth.
I made it for this reason: I've been following recruiting fairly closely since the early '90s. I've read and heard scores of interviews with UM commits, as well as with commits to other schools. In interview after interview, commits are asked about the factors that led them to commit to UM, or to another school. Routinely, the commits offer these reasons:
• Nature of program, especially recent success and/or tradition
• Coaching staff, including abilities to prepare for next level
• Proximity to home
• Educational opportunities
• Stadium and practice facilities
• Enthusiasm of fans on game day in stadium
In all these years, I have never once heard or read any commit say that contact from individual fans urging them to commit to a particular school has had any meaningful positive impact whatsoever on their choice. Not once. In fact, they only time they mention anything about fan impact during recruiting is in reference to negative comments by fans of a particular program after they've chosen a rival school. Hence my skepticism.
Regardless, we're rooting for the same program and school, and if your comments do have a positive effect on a particular recruit, great. Once I hear a recruit mention sales pitches from individual fans as a factor in his decision, I will gladly change my opinion.
Your posts have given me the most laughs I have had in ages. Thanks dude.
I have never been a fan of facebook and you are a walking, posting advertisement of why this whole facebook/social networking site thing is a bad idea. Get a damn life and leave recruits alone.
Stop it. I can't say it any plainer. To all of us that's crossing the line. You might be able to sense that by the overwhelming reaction your getting here, bro. Universal "not cool" from Michigan fans.
Trust me, I tend to have
thisa nauseating effect on people.
You are not a coach. It is not your job to try and recruit kids. Look at the link below. It's about Ole Miss signee C.J. Johnson who if you're unfamiliar with his recruiting story, was committed to Mississippi State and decommitted citing constant pestering from Miss St. fans about his recruitment. Saying 'Go Blue!' to a kid if you happen to see him is one thing, actively trying to recruit is creepy and wrong, and can actually have a detrimental effect.
I'll bet they didn't think they were creepy either.
"My mom says I'm cool!"
...43.8%, rounding up to the nearest decimal point
no, we need a Chris Hanson cryptic message.
we need a cryptic message.
I'm coming up with a 32.33 repeating, of course, percent chance.
I built an analytical model to take out the randomness, substituted a few variables based on known constraints, factored in atmospheric chaos, and subtracted a few points because of Chet's creepiness.
I came up with 50-50.
I think there is a very good chance Chris will commit very soon and Kyle not far behind. We are looking real good for both of these guys!. Dunn is looking real good also!