Thanks Brian.
constellation in my book
I thought we were allowed FIVE stars!
Related question, which high 4 star we are in on could jump into 5 star territory by the time this cycle is over? Tyler Friday, Kamryn Babb, Jeremy Ruckert, Emil Ekiyor?
The question of the thread should just be: What are the highest ranked players in the 2018 class that we have a good shot at landing?
I think we'll land Tyler Friday and he's currently 46th in the 247 cumulative ranking. His grade (0.9715 is very comparable to Cesar Ruiz & Luiji Vilain).
What are the components of the mathematical equation that calculate to that percentage? Are certain components ranked higher than others?
http://appalachianstate.247sports.com/Article/247Sports-Rating-Explanat…
Rashan Gary was 1.000, meaning he was the consensus #1 ranked recruit on all of the 4 main recruiting sites (Rivals, Scout, ESPN, 247). Hope this helps.
Thanks very much. Finally will understand.
Momma Bamba. He's a 5 star right?
Does she live in Green Bay? Becasue she can either be a football player or a ....
Can't really tell from his 247 page. No team is "warm" on his recruitment.
I'm assuming teams want to see his performance in more camps and then actually on the field starting this summer. Kid hasn't played a game yet so I'm not sure anyone is all in on him yet.
How big is our 2019 class expected to be?
I must have said something that wasnt true.....I have no idea #'s wise what 2019 will be. But I do know there is already a large handful of guys who are in the top 100 interested in Michigan.
If you're expecting 2018 to be this big recruiting coup filled with 5 stars i wouldnt get your hopes up. Guys will rise, guys will fall ect.. but this will be a class that lands between #12-17 im guessing
Clemson proved that as long as you have an elite QB, you can win national championships with recruitng classes that perennially rank in the 10-15 range, so I'm no longer as concerned about recruiting class rank. We do need to stock up on elite offensive linemen though.
is heavily dependant on the quantity of players you sign. Obviously, to have a Top 5 class you also need quality players too. If you look at the average ranking/player Clemson's classes have been Top 5-10. They are recruiting at an elite level. It's just that rarely do they sign massive classes which will put them towards the top of the rankings. They pretty consistently sign a little over 20 recruits each year.
which is weird because a smaller class should have quality not depth.
Deez Nuts
I think we get one in 2018 because Harbaugh.
The final rankings will shift so much from now until next winter that we won't really know. I'm sure one of our commits will be a 5* on at least one site, but maybe not 247's cumulative ranking.
For example, a guy like Jordan Anthony was specifically a Rivals 5* last year. Cesar Ruiz was probably a 5 star on some sites too
Occam's Razor...
Tell me what HS coaches are looking for new work and I'll tell you who we are gonna get.
/RCMBd
I am a little surprised Michigan isn't at least on the "top 3" list of some top 50 players from this class. With Michigan getting so much national press and everything hitting home at once right now (record draft class, ROME, #3 APR score, great recruiting class, positive national press, etc.), you'd think Harbaugh would have a number of elite players trying to set up a visit. This is especially curious when you consider all the top players in Michigan's last class, and things have only gotten better since then.
I know this is going to be a much smaller class, but is there a reason I am missing why we aren't seeing interest from top-50 kids?
How many of those top players from last year's class were we hearing about in early May? DPJ because he's an in-stater but other than that? A lot of names will emerge in the summer and fall, that's how it's been under Harbaugh the last 2 recruiting cycles.
We were in on drew singleton super early, DPJ, Ambry thomas was in-stater we were in the top 3 for the entire recruiting cycle, Dylan mcaffrey was a top 50 guy we got. Solomon was a camp win but he also busted out late in the cycle and we probably don't win that recruitment if we weren't the first big name school in on him. Late names will obviously emerge, but a fair amount of the highly ranked kids Michigan got last year had us high on their list for most of the recruiting cycle.
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Some recruits may be interested in money and other stuff. If you are not willing to give them the money and other stuff they expect you are not in. For those who remain everyone is after them.
But that sounded like it came from Trump.
Generally, when a new coach takes over a downtrodden blue blood program, his first two classes will be off the charts. That's because he can sell alot of playing time along with new found excitement at a school with massive resources. By year 3, playing time is no longer as abundant, so winning becomes essential to keep that buzz going. Hoke's first two classes were off the charts. So were Butch Jones's at Tennessee. By year 3, it became clear that neither was an elite coach and recruiting fell off. So if Harbaugh can avoid a lackluster season in year 3, I expect a strong finish to the class. Probably not top 5, but somewhere in the top 15.
You also have to look at it from a recruit's perspective rather than fan's. A recruit cares about winning and making it to the NFL. Everything else is noise. The APR is basically meaningless. Sure, recruits talk about academics but how many times have we seen a recruit mention the draw of Michigan's academics and then choose a much inferior school? The Rome trip while very cool (and I studied abroad as both an undergrad and a grad student, so I can attest to the value in the Rome trip) probably doesn't resonate much in a recruit's eyes. Further, Michigan has only recently starting winning. The excellent draft class happened days ago, much too soon for it to make an impact. Also keep in mind Alabama, Ohio State and Florida State among others have been pumping out NFL players every single year for the past several years so it's something other schools can sell too.
Might it have something to do with the fact that the coaching staff has been focusing on the Rome trip, which had a shitload of moving parts, as opposed to recruiting this early in the cycle? Seems to make sense to me.
All of them?
Yep.
All of them.
But if I had to guess, it is because, as a team, we are so young. And a lot of that youth is very talented. If we had a junior-heavy starting rotation the depth chart might look a little different and be more attractive to potential 2018 recruits. I think that is why 2019 looks to be so much more promising.
*Sorry. This was meant to be a reply to DCmissingAnnArbor above.
I couldn't narrow it down to five. All the signee's will be stars in my eyes.
I wouldn't be freaking out now. Aubrey Solomon committed out of the blue in like June. Who knows how it will all play out.
The only 5 stars we have a shot with right now, as far as I know, are Amon-Ra St. Brown and to a lesser extent BJ Foster. 4.5 stars (probable future 5 stars) are Tyler Friday, Isaac Taylor Stuart, Kamryn Babb, Trey Hill, and Dallas Gant. Guys like Surtain Jr, Parsons, and Salyer are mostly going to be such long recruitments that we could have a shot with any of them capriciously.
Honestly, none at the moment.
NJ 4 star Tyler Friday is the highest ranked player leaning to Michigan. He's roughly in the 40s range so he could easily be a 5 star when its all said and done.
Cali 5 star Amon Ra St Brown was looking like Michigan was a possiblity but now it seems DTR is successfully pulling him to UCLA. Slight chance
Texas 5 star BJ Fosterdoes have Michigan in his top 5 but Texas is the clear frontrunner
Lot of time left. The rankings WILL shift a lot. But really we just need to start making the playoffs and then the 5 stars will start knocking down Jim Harbaughs door