Cam

September 4th, 2021 at 3:54 PM ^

I thought the LBs looked unathletic. The D line is clearly going to struggle against good O lines. Not much organic pressure. Coverage was very soft, some by design but some necessitated by mediocre speed in the back 7. Overall, I thought Western made a ton of self-inflicted errors that prevented them from scoring 21-28.

I’m not saying they looked bad, but they didn’t look anywhere near dominant. Then again, Oklahoma gave up 35 to Tulane, so it’s hard to complain too much.

BroadneckBlue21

September 4th, 2021 at 6:28 PM ^

All those mentions of Hutchinson in the back field weren’t pressure? The pressure was what made the secondary look good today. Eleby was consistently getting the ball off quickly, but here we’re at least four to five passes in key situations where pressure forced rushed, incomplete passes. 

trustBlue

September 4th, 2021 at 6:31 PM ^

Not sure I'm buying no organic pressure. Hutchinson was in Eleby's grill all damn day. 

But the coverage was definitely inconsistent - the corners made a few plays, but there were a lot of receivers left running free and the zone got picked apart easily on the first couple drives.

 

Michigan Arrogance

September 4th, 2021 at 4:51 PM ^

Defense was shakey (for a game they gave up 7 non garbage time points in). Gashed a bit up the middle in the late 3rd. Some open receivers in the 1st half even after the WR for WMU went out.

Not terrible, but Hinton and Smith might be lucky to come out even-steven in UFR.

Wash has a very good OL so it could be a tough day more often than not on D but we'll just have to see.

1WhoStayed

September 4th, 2021 at 3:27 PM ^

Impressive debut IMO. The lone score against 1st string was aided by a 15 yard taunting call. Right after a M DB made a huge stop for no gain.

WMU is not a bad offensive team with 2 (or 3?) o-line players in their 6th year. That’s a lot of maturation and experience.

AZBlue

September 4th, 2021 at 4:32 PM ^

Was listening to “the Michigan Man” WMU preview podcast this week and they think they have the best OL in the MAC.  4 returning starters with 74 starts experience.  The QB may be the 2nd or 3rd best we face all year (Penix and probably Stroud will be better…both QBs looked mediocre in the UW-PSU game IMO).

I am not ready to declare “top ten defense” but for a first game with a completely new system and a lot of new faces in the 2-deep I think we looked pretty darn good.

PS - HUGE play by Colson on that 3rd and short pass breakup.  Not sure how long he had been in the game, but that was the first time I noticed/said “who is #25 on defense?!?”

bamf_16

September 4th, 2021 at 3:28 PM ^

I don’t like the 2 man interior DL look. I’d rather they put 3 DL there flanked by Hutchinson and Ojabo. There are more options with that look and I think another benefit is it makes it easier for the LB to see, read, & react.

 

I understand the problem is you’re then putting more on Ross in the middle and taking Hill-Green off the field potentially if this morphs into a 3-3-5, but I don’t like a 2 man nickel look on 1st and 10.

 

And Hutchinson is the real deal.

 

(Still pissed WMU’s two scoring drives came after stops only to see “questionable” calls extend them.)

The Geek

September 4th, 2021 at 3:57 PM ^

This is so true. My teenage daughter watched the game with me today (she is starting to get into sports which is cool since her two older brothers could give two shits). As soon as I saw John O’Neill I grimaced and had to explain my displeasure. It didn’t take long before she got what I was talking about. She called out the phantom running into the kicker before I did!  What a great game today, lots of big plays. 

gm1234

September 4th, 2021 at 5:36 PM ^

The taunting call was legit. You can’t run over and stand over a player and talk shit like that. I get the players being excited after a big play like that, but it was definitely a penalty. Young guys will do dumb stuff sometimes, hopefully lesson learned and won’t happen in a bigger game later…

SD Larry

September 4th, 2021 at 3:29 PM ^

First team defense was impressive.  Eleby is a good qb.  Surprised he played whole game with the whole season ahead.  Good pass rush. Pretty good coverage in secondary. 

huntmich

September 4th, 2021 at 3:33 PM ^

All of last year I noticed how, especially on defense, the players looked lost and disinterested. Reminded me a lot of the 2014 team.

 

Today, players were flying to the ball with ferocity, players were in good position, making really good tackles.

 

I was very impressed by what I saw today.

VaUMWolverine

September 4th, 2021 at 3:34 PM ^

Biggest improvements are between week one and week two. I think they’re on the right track.

never get too high on things….never get too low. 
 

I am encouraged. WMU has a good offense and they only scored 14. I’ll take that.

Ronswanson13

September 4th, 2021 at 3:35 PM ^

Hutchinson and Hill are 1st rd talents, no surprise.

NHG missed one tackle, but his other tackles were with a purpose. I really liked seeing that.

Ross seems like a good kid, I just don’t think he’s a great football player.

Offense is going to have to be good because there’s simply not the defensive talent that 16-18 at all 3 levels.

Number 7

September 4th, 2021 at 5:05 PM ^

Slight disagreement on Ross.  I thought he did pretty well playing all over the field, making tackles.  My recollection of him from 2019 was someone who was pretty good at getting to the right place, but was neither fast enough nor strong enough to be the LB we needed.  Today, he might have missed a couple of reads, but he was getting to places quickly and hitting hard when he got there. I'd bet Ebely agrees. 

MRunner73

September 4th, 2021 at 3:35 PM ^

The defense exceeded my expectations. Garbage TD given up after the WMU kicker went down. Dax Hill was great. Aidan Hutchinson had a stellar game. It was 60 minutes of good effort and execution after a shaky first go around giving up a WMU TD.

 

Overall, a B to B+. A good start as WMU will have a good season in the MAC.

NJblue2

September 4th, 2021 at 3:42 PM ^

I'm not feeling good about the defense. I think good teams will just gash runs up the middle or sit back and pick apart the soft coverage. I don't think they'll give up a lot of big plays, but they won't make very many either.

Some Call Me.... Tim

September 4th, 2021 at 3:53 PM ^

 

I personally like the idea that the soft coverage allows. We don't have the secondary to run cover 0 all day, so what's the next best thing? Force them to continually make plays and keep drives alive. These are college players, and there will be mistakes, forcing a team to march down the field increases the chances that they commit one

 

bamf_16

September 4th, 2021 at 4:17 PM ^

Great point.

 

One of my biggest criticisms of Don Brown’s defenses was an inability to “bend but not break.”

 

They just never seemed to force red zone FG attempts. 

 

It’s obviously easier to defend a smaller field with a talent deficiency, so keeping big plays in check and forcing FGs isn’t the worst thing in the world.

reshp1

September 4th, 2021 at 3:43 PM ^

A little bit of a bend but don't break feel. Given the deficiencies, that's probably the right approach. DTs still looked pretty suspect and secondary was only able to hold down yards after uncontested catches on too many plays. This isn't gonna be an elite or probably even good unit this year, but hopefully won't give up big plays and keep us in it if the offense is improved. 

Jordan2323

September 4th, 2021 at 3:53 PM ^

Western has a lot of starts on that offensive line. They had a 6th year player I think. We were soft up the gut at times but overall not too bad. Maybe a little too soft on the psd coverage and too much cushion. I’m not sure if that isn’t to make them drive the field though and not give up the home run. 

CaliforniaNobody

September 4th, 2021 at 4:01 PM ^

Hutch will be a first round pick this year, and I like him more than any other Harbaugh era DE. That kid is so good. Enjoy him while we can.

Watched the interior all game long and honestly was not impressed. Wasn't really expecting any pressure, but at least pocket pushing and controlling the LOS against WMU. To my eye that was largely a stalemate. Not good enough against an inferior opponent. But I loved the death squirrel approach so what do I know.

Linebackers didn't pop much to me. I miss watching Bush and to a lesser extent McGrone. Ross was solid.

Corners TBD. But Dax is special, really reminds me of Byron Jones. Hope Hawkins keeps being boring.

father fisch

September 4th, 2021 at 4:23 PM ^

Generally acquitted themselves well. Lots to work on but most of the issues were self-inflicted.
And they made nice adjustments for the most part after the first possessions.

Perkis-Size Me

September 4th, 2021 at 5:00 PM ^

Looked really shaky at first but they clamped down on a good QB. Solid start for McDonald. 

Only gets harder from here, but the first signs were encouraging. And gotta love that Aidan came back. He was an absolute difference-maker today, and is a bona fide first round talent.

If we can see week to week progression that’s all that matters this year. I’m not expecting McDonald to work miracles. He’s working with what he has, but if they keep getting better on a week to week basis, that’s what matters most.