Way OT: Anyone know what happened in Ypsilanti tonight??

Submitted by dmac24 on August 8th, 2022 at 2:04 AM

I was driving my family home from Tennessee to Lansing this evening and when we went through Ann Arbor about 12:15am there were  20+ police cars on Highway 23/exit ramp/Washtenaw Ave. with their lights flashing. Anyone know what was going on??

Blue Vet

August 8th, 2022 at 8:34 AM ^

I wonder when cops got associated with doughnuts.

Though it's now a common theme—obvious by the first two responses—you don't see it in old movies of the 30s and 40s, and I don't think it was a thing in the 50s.

And how did it start? Was it already something cops did and somebody noticed, or did some writer put it in a film or TV script and it built from there?

MGoGrendel

August 8th, 2022 at 8:40 AM ^

True story...  Many years ago, I was driving from Chicago back to Detroit to visit my parents.  On the way through Warren, traffic was backed up due to normal rush hour.  Several cop cars - with lights and sirens on - came roaring up the shoulder, cut into the traffic lane, then turned left into the donut shop.  Lights and sirens were turned off and they strolled in.

JMo

August 8th, 2022 at 8:43 AM ^

Smithsonian Mag did a little blog story. They're going with mid-20th century and a marriage of convenience.

 

As Cara Giamo writes for Atlas Obscura, cops around the United States began to be associated with doughnuts back in the 1950’s, when they were some of the only snacks available to police walking the late-night beat. Back then, doughnut shops were some of the only stores open late at night because they needed to get ready for the morning rush. As a result, they were some of the best options for cops who needed a quick bite to eat, a place to fill out paperwork or make a call, or to simply sit and take a breather, Michael Krondl writes in his book, The Donut.

“When it came to [meals], graveyard cops in the forties and fifties had few choices,” former Seattle Chief of Police Norm Stamper once wrote, Krondl reports. “They could pack lunch, pray for an all-night diner on their beat, or fill up on doughnuts. Doughnuts usually won out. They were, to most palates, tasty, and they were cheap and convenient.”

Blue Vet

August 8th, 2022 at 9:24 AM ^

Aha! Someone has actually looked into it. Nothing like evidence, rather than wondering speculation.

And this explanation is plausible. Cops could have been stopping at doughnut shops in the 40s but the association of cops & donuts wouldn't have been public knowledge yet, and so it didn't appear in 1940s movies.

Thanks, JMo. 

BlueDad2022

August 8th, 2022 at 9:57 AM ^

About 25 years ago was hit from behind while making a left turn and the driver took off.   Another driver followed the car and came back to let us know where they were.   While standing around with a couple of officers answering questions a ten or eleven yr old boy walks up and straight out asks the main officer why do police eat so many donuts.   I struggled maintaining my composure.,.and the officer calmly told the kid pretty much this exact answer.

ottomatic

August 8th, 2022 at 11:27 AM ^

I was an Army MP at Ft Hood, TX in the early 80's. The kitchen at the main dining facility operated over night doing the baking for all of the dining facilities. That was the only game in town for the graveyard shift. I can vouch for the relationship between the po-po and doughnuts.

Blue Vet

August 8th, 2022 at 1:05 PM ^

Short handed, we ran 12-hour shifts, 3 days, 3 nights, 3 off. But the dining room was open 24/7 AND we had officers specializing in cooking—I forget their title—so we had really good chow. 

So with good food 4 times a day—loved those 1AM meals—I gained 15 pounds in a month. Heaviest I’ve ever been. 

A State Fan

August 8th, 2022 at 8:45 AM ^

My dad was a cop in Lansing for 26 years. There was a bakery he used to go to all the time, because the baker would start at 2a to be ready for the day, and he'd give out a free donut and coffee to cops for the company - and probably the visibility that he wasn't alone.

So I've always thought the cops+donuts thing was tied to things like that, where there aren't a lot of restaurants open at 4am but they knew a guy who'd give out a donut or two.

Blue Vet

August 8th, 2022 at 9:32 AM ^

One of my jobs in high school was delivering bundles of Sunday newspapers to paper boys, a job that started at 11PM and ended around 4AM-5AM. In the process, I was drawn by the smell to the backdoor of a bakery, open to the winter cold.

So when I wanted to impress a date, I took her to the bakery's back. A doughnut itself isn't special but something new to do at midnight was something new.

MGlobules

August 8th, 2022 at 10:09 AM ^

San Francisco was where I first encountered it. Dan White, the policeman who killed Harvey Milk and mayor George Moscone, had some portion of his defense revolve around or suggest that eating twinkies, after coming off a strict health regimen, contributed to his insanity. This bled into the association with cops and donuts (which, as I understand, really just grows out of the fact that donut shops are open and have coffee, that cops tend to tank up at them). Whenever I saw the 'bad cop no donut' meme from thenceforward, I made that association, but perhaps that's just menevermindidunnobacktowork.

 

Perkis-Size Me

August 8th, 2022 at 9:03 AM ^

Read my mind. I use my Nextdoor account every now and again as it does have its uses, but every other post is about some concerned citizen asking "DID ANYONE HEAR THOSE GUNSHOTS AT 2AM LAST NIGHT?!?"

Couple that with the Karens going onto their account on a daily basis to whine and complain to the masses about how the Dunkin Donuts down the street doesn't offer complimentary almond milk for their chai lattes anymore. Kid you not, that was a legitimate post that I came across last week. 

Our species is absolutely doomed. 

Perkis-Size Me

August 8th, 2022 at 10:59 AM ^

As someone who spent the better part of four years working in a restaurant, I can tell you that this is absolutely a thing. 

When you feel the need to take to social media to blast front-line service employees for policies that they have no control over, or make a scene to a high school-aged employee because your almond milk is no longer complimentary, you deserve whatever criticism you get. 

schreibee

August 8th, 2022 at 12:19 PM ^

When I all caps a word it is NEVER "random" - and occasionally I combo the all caps with Italics so you can HEAR my emphasis has either irritation or sarcasm, depending. 

The fact we make this SO CLEAR and yet you still perceive it as random is really concerning. Your parents were right about the video games! 

kalamazoo

August 9th, 2022 at 9:59 AM ^

I think you're talking about fewer than 5% of boomers using all caps. That was bigger 15 years ago and probably doesn't deserve a generational stereotype or discriminatory laugh today.

I think a lot of the app caps people today are just all caps people wanting to be heard.

evenyoubrutus

August 8th, 2022 at 7:11 AM ^

Was it the Washtenaw county sheriff? I believe they had a community event in which they took families in need on shopping trips to buy school supplies and clothes, etc. 

Angry-Dad

August 8th, 2022 at 7:25 AM ^

Man, now I have to come up with a new title for my novel.  "Anyone Know What Happened in Ypsilanti Tonight?" was in the lead for a working title.  

Back to the drawing board.