Was an Auburn coach stealing Florida State’s offensive signals during the BCS National Championship? (Video)
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“They had a couple of our signals a couple times and were getting to them. That happens, people do it, and that’s our fault. You’ve got to change them, constantly rotate them, being able to get them in different ways. That’s part of the game. I don’t have a problem with that,” Fisher said.
Like Fisher said, things like this happen and it’s on Florida State to change the signals, especially when they have a former staff member on the opposing sideline...
January 11th, 2014 at 2:46 PM ^
so you asked a question in the title which was immediately answered in the post
I think our work here is done
January 11th, 2014 at 2:47 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 3:07 PM ^
That's the title of the article, if you click the link.
January 11th, 2014 at 5:31 PM ^
"Was Florida State giving away its offensive signals to Auburn?"
January 11th, 2014 at 2:47 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 2:47 PM ^
If you know what they're going to do, why not take advantage of it?
January 11th, 2014 at 3:36 PM ^
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January 11th, 2014 at 2:50 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 2:55 PM ^
Should "stealing signs" be against the rules?
I can understand the parts about guys hiding in the scoreboard at the Polo Grounds with binoculars and a telephone.
Or Bill Belichck with video equipment and closed-circuit telephony.
But I generally get a kick out of signal-stealing stories. I think they are funny.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^
There's a funny signal-stealing story featuring Bo Schembechler I once heard... apparently some Gophers were spying on Michigan's practices in Minnesota, and Bo got wind of it. So he starts splitting a bunch of receivers wide, going into 4 and 5 wide shotgun sets, and the Gopher spies run off thinking that Bo's gonna surprise them with this spread attack the next day.
Didn't happen. Michigan killed them, I believe.
January 11th, 2014 at 4:00 PM ^
As long as it is being done during a game, it should be legal, and expected.
January 11th, 2014 at 2:55 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 5:15 PM ^
January 12th, 2014 at 12:28 AM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 2:55 PM ^
Did they use any illegal means to steal these signal? If not, then good for Auburn on figuring out the opposing team's signals, and shame on FSU for not changing them up or hiding them enough.
January 11th, 2014 at 2:58 PM ^
As long as Auburn wasn't stealing their signals via video taping their practices/walkthrough, then whatever. If they figured out the signals during the game, good for them.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:00 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 3:04 PM ^
I agree. But there's no evidence they cheated.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:13 PM ^
As this clearly falls under the grey banner in my book as all teams try to do it. What Belicheck did with the video taping was cheating. Figuring out a teams signs from studying their game film is not, IMHO.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:18 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 3:56 PM ^
Yes, a very black and white assumption would't you say...
January 11th, 2014 at 3:50 PM ^
it isn't cheating in any shape or form, unless they were videotaping practices or something
it's kind of incumbent upon every team to make sure they aren't just yelling out their plans to the opposition
January 11th, 2014 at 3:05 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 3:07 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 3:08 PM ^
If you are able to figure out what a team does when they give certain signals in past games (or even the current game), and they keep doing that in future games that is NOT cheating. There is no rule in football that a team must use signals. Teams could just send the play into the huddle with a player from the sideline on every play. If a team chooses to use completely visible signals, then they are publicallly broadcasting their signals and they have to assume those signals are going to be stolen. That is on them for not changing them up often enough.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:19 PM ^
Exactly. If a team was yelling exactly what they were going to do each play, would it be cheating for the defense to act on that information? Nope. No rule about the defense using all five senses to try to stop the offense.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:10 PM ^
The real solution is to always huddle, so there is no need for signals. It's going to be the future of football.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:23 PM ^
Don't get too radical there.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:13 PM ^
Seems like FSU was really stupid here. Their ex-QB coach was now at Auburn and they didn't change up their offensive signals at all? They didn't stop and think "Hmmm, our ex-QB coach might tell his new team EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE RUNNING???" C'mon guys, think for a second.
January 11th, 2014 at 5:24 PM ^
January 12th, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^
then coaches clearly aren't worth the money they are being paid. Jeez, for the 2-5 million a year they are making, you would think they would be smart enough to realize that maybe they need to keep their signs from being stolen.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^
The real solution is EXECUTION. Even when the "signal" the other team steals is that you are lining your best tackle up next to your other tackle and running that way. You just have to execute better.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^
This isn't old at all.
January 11th, 2014 at 4:57 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 5:02 PM ^
has a decided schematic advantage of course.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:26 PM ^
January 11th, 2014 at 3:27 PM ^
Whoa!! If Auburn was in fact stealing FSU's signals the game should be investigated and the result overturned! There is NO WAY a cheater should be allowed to keep a 'win' gained by cheating!!
What? They lost? Stole signals and still lost?
Never mind.
January 11th, 2014 at 3:32 PM ^
In fact I think I read he was at FSU as recently as 2011 or 2012 so if FSU didn't see that coming well then I suppose they kind of deserved it
January 11th, 2014 at 3:41 PM ^
Maybe Auburn was, maybe Auburn wasn't reading the signals, the game swung dramatically in the Seminoles favor well before this player made his claim. FSU runs the fake punt and the Auburn D, heretofore having had its way with the FSU offense, simply collapsed. The Auburn D never recovered from that fake punt drive. It was a pivotal moment, one which FSU shouldn't sell short.
January 11th, 2014 at 4:37 PM ^
Is stealing signas against NCAA rules?
January 11th, 2014 at 4:56 PM ^
HELLO $cam Newton!!
January 11th, 2014 at 5:04 PM ^
2.) Negative rushing yards
3.) Ditto
4.) BWW Bowl
I'm outraged!
/s
January 11th, 2014 at 6:01 PM ^
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January 11th, 2014 at 6:41 PM ^
But it really wouldn't be that hard to use the NFL radio/helmet system for bowl games...especally BCS bowl games.
January 11th, 2014 at 6:49 PM ^
CFB is so big now, why make them motion signs. The coaches make huge money and most games are televised. Perhaps they should just adopt a wireless system like the NFL?
January 12th, 2014 at 12:12 PM ^
Wouldn't surprise me at all. This is a big money, big presteige competive business here. If little league parents can get outraged over certain calls in a t-ball game, I wouldn't put it past guys with career ambition, millions on the line, etc. to do as much intelligence work as possible. Short of out-right-theft or breaking contractual agreements (e.g. a non-disclsure agreement signed by the former FSU assistant), it's on FSU to make sure they keep their information proprietary.
I could be wrong, but I thought at one point during the game I saw somebody on the FSU sideline hold up a towel along side a guy flashing calls onto the playing field. My assumption at the time was so that it blocked Auburn's ability to see what they were signaling.
Or FSU could just go the Auburn route, and go for those large cartoon-like poster-boards. My wife made a crack at the time about the literacy of Auburn players.....