Update From Former AD Employee / Insider Buddy

Submitted by Bo Harbaugh on November 10th, 2023 at 10:22 PM

Some quick updates from my buddy, the one who shared info on the "binders of dirt" on other programs.

  1. Has no confirmation on the supposed 6-9 other teams that were allegedly also in person scouting. He says it could just be a rumor. That said, UM has indeed hired 3 separate firms (one named Kroll?) to look into 
    1. How UM's signs were obtained
    2. Who shared those signs
    3. How far the conspiracy went (how many teams shared the signs)
    4. Also of interest, was there indeed video tape of UM's practice circulating in 2018-2019 as has been alleged?  And which teams had or have that tape.
    5. Was it OSU that hired a PI team to go after UM (AD is 90% certain it was)
  2. On the legal side, he has nothing to add that hasn't gone public.  Most of the legal info is not really coming out of the AD at this point but is at the university / regents / President level rn.
  3. Of note, UM is not just looking at other conferences per leverage. There are actual convos going on, albeit very early. There is a deep, profound grievance that OSU in particular has been "getting away with murder" for 15 years (as the B1G flagship program) and UM is being railroaded in a clever PI / PR hit job here. Actual conversations (no idea how serious) have taken place with the SEC.  Out of left field - Texas for some reason is in contact with UM and is in their ear and pushing hard for them to join SEC - no idea what that relationship is about.

That's all I got.  Not too helpful in these crazy times, but felt I should share.

 

 

KO Stradivarius

November 10th, 2023 at 10:25 PM ^

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Profit!

wildbackdunesman

November 10th, 2023 at 10:25 PM ^

I would like to leave this conference, but I fear that talk of binders full of scandals are either not real or won't be used and we're stuck in this conference.

Also, why would Texas be in our ear? What is their advantage? I could see the SEC displaying power over the BigTen, maybe, probably not.

Tesel

November 10th, 2023 at 10:44 PM ^

I have been wishing Texas came to the B1G instead of the SEC for a while. I may be biased as an Austin resident who wants to see Michigan play more often, but they fit a lot better than the West coast schools. I can't say I imagined this option, but I'd be down to follow them to the SEC instead.

ST3

November 10th, 2023 at 11:10 PM ^

Michigan, Texas, Vanderbilt and Texas A&M would form a dynamic aerospace partnership. Vandy is huge in radiation effects research and A&M has a cyclotron for doing radiation testing. We could ask Purdue to join us to dominate the field, and then tell them on second thought, eh, never mind. They fucked themselves when they accepted the opponents’ research and didn’t immediately turn them in.

dragonchild

November 10th, 2023 at 11:45 PM ^

I mean, could you be any more wrong?

University of Michigan: founded 1817

University of Alabama:  founded 1820
South Carolina:  1801
Tennessee: 1794
Missouri:  1839
Georgia:  1785 (!!!)

Some of them were founded around the Civil War or shortly after, but that includes some of the better institutions:  Vandy (1873) and Florida (1853).  This "100 year head start" is as fictional and impactful as Connor Stalions' "Vast Network".

Alabama's a mediocre-at-best school because they willfully made themselves a football whore with a school attached, not because Michigan beat them to the punch by a whopping three years.

meeashagin

November 10th, 2023 at 11:04 PM ^

I don't see how the relationship is reparable. Michigan is now forced to fight everything to the max because most of our conference is against us. Having said that as long as Michigan continues to win this will turn in the court of public opinion.

If OSU orchestrated all this and they still get their shit pushed in, again....people will start asking tough questions. 

Hail to the Vi…

November 10th, 2023 at 11:47 PM ^

This is  one of the most perplexing elements of this entire situation proving to have many perplexing elements.

Literally every school not named Ohio State is undermining their own financial interest by gaslighting Michigan to the point where they need to consider whether or not they want to align with the member institutions in the conference. 

If Michigan leaves the B1G, the conference eventually collapses. Ohio State and (probably) Penn State would be fine. They carry enough cache that, however the void is filled in the wake of a power conference collapse, they'll have a seat at the table in the new power conference dynamic.

But for the programs that remain (like Rutgers, Purdue, Iowa, even Michigan State, et. al), making up what is currently the most profitable conference in college sports, you directly undermine the relevance and profitability for your athletic programs if you're in a profit sharing environment without Michigan. No new power conference needs Rutgers, or Iowa or Purdue. But they need Michigan. You were in the club, and you're creating massive levels of exposure to lose your meal ticket over pressuring the league to issue a jail time sentence to a flagship program over a parking citation.

It's absolutely asinine. You really dislike Jim Harbaugh and Michigan so much that you're willing to burn down your athletic department over an offense you're staff is probably doing as well? Truly crazy times we live in.

Bosch

November 11th, 2023 at 9:46 AM ^

I second this.  I don't consider the SEC to be a greener pasture.  The ACC feels like a better fit and that conference would be foolish not to take this chance to extend an offer.  Michigan immediately adds substantial credibility, both academically and athletically, to the conference.  The TV revenue the conference could now demand would add stability by satisfying the unsettled schools (Miami, FSU, Clemson).  Perhaps they even gain enough leverage to tell ND to either go all in or gtfo.

Erik_in_Dayton

November 10th, 2023 at 10:26 PM ^

Something has gone seriously wrong with a sport when its rules and governance have helped lead to rivals hiring PI firms to investigate each other. I'm glad that Michigan has hired one--don't get me wrong--but this is a ridiculous situation. 

tybert

November 10th, 2023 at 10:45 PM ^

This is beginning to remind me of the espionage and double-agents of the Cold War. The Reds (Ohio) drew 1st blood. One has to wonder if we had one of our own (staffer, one of Connor's vast nation, etc.) steal the files that the PI firm got. Not that it real matters now, but in the Spy vs. Spy game it's our turn to retaliate.  Someone formerly connected to Ohio can be summoned. War is HELL, and Ohio is going to find out soon enough.