Trey Burke Traded - Again

Submitted by m1817 on September 30th, 2022 at 5:50 AM

Trey Burke traded from the Houston Rockets to OKC Thunder.  OKC will be his eighth NBA team (includes Dallas twice but not Minnesota who drafted & traded him the same day). Some survive the NBA, some don't.  Trey gets another chance to stick.

https://www.espn.co.uk/nba/story/_/id/34692740/sources-houston-rockets-acquire-derrick-favors-eight-player-trade-oklahoma-city-thunder

demardorsey

October 1st, 2022 at 2:42 AM ^

I still watch that game on occasion. I remember having a few friends over to watch it live and when it looked like Michigan was done and was definitely going home to watch the rest of the tournament like fans my friends had left my apartment and as I was cleaning up the empty beer cans and paper plates with pizza crusts left on them I had the game on of course and I was occasionally glancing at the tv as I was finishing cleaning up my occasional glancing quickly became sitting back on the couch and watching with unbelief as the Wolverines steadily closed the gap and I began to fire text messages at my friends who had departed that Michigan had went on a run and had made it a game again. As I watched I really didn’t believe that they would come all the way back and win the game because I had seen so many games where teams had given their best efforts but had either run out of time or just couldn’t make enough shots and get enough stops against a really good team like Kansas to actually come all the way back and eventually win the game but little did I know that Michigan had a real life Superman himself on the team named Trey Burke who would nail a 3 point shot from about 30 feet with bodies falling all around him to actually tie the game with about 6 seconds left. I could not believe what I had just witnessed with nobody around me to high five or look at with amazement I just sat on my couch with goosebumps and thought I can not believe what I had just seen and we all know what happened from there and the rest is a storybook moment in Michigan basketball and NCAA tournament history. That was one of the greatest games I have ever seen in NCAA tournament history. What a team effort and what an amazing game. I still get chills just thinking about the effort that team gave that night. You can watch basketball for the rest of your life and you still might not see another game like that. What a time to be alive!!
 

Go Blue!!

Vote_Crisler_1937

September 30th, 2022 at 7:12 AM ^

My college coaches and few teammates who managed to make it to the show would all be mostly excited about trades. They said being traded is a good thing because it means execs at a new organization now need to prove they were the winner in the trade and thus a bit of their ego and career path is now tied to your success. Good for Burke that he’s stuck around this long and happy that another organization wants to prove their smarter by obtaining him. 

potomacduc

September 30th, 2022 at 10:52 AM ^

I’m not sure how much that holds in an 8 player NBA trade. It’s probably true for Favors, but some (most) of the other players in the trade may have been simply included to make the salary calculations work. 

I haven’t read up much on this trade, but it seems more like the Thunder we’re cutting payroll and will eventually be cutting players. Hopefully Burke was a player they wanted and not just a throw in/salary dump. 

DonAZ

September 30th, 2022 at 7:14 AM ^

This post got me wondering about career lengths in the various sports, so I started to search around.  I came across one study that shows this distribution by major U.S. sport:

This is up through 2018.  This chart does not indicate the average, but I've read elsewhere it's about 4.5 years.  So Trey is above average, and about halfway up the right tail of the distribution curve.

What's interesting is how the NBA has such a high first-year dropout rate.  I expected that for the NFL (the next highest) because they draft so many.  Maybe relative to roster spots in the NBA they draft proportionally as much or more as the NFL?

JMo

September 30th, 2022 at 7:28 AM ^

What's most interesting to me is that spike at 11 for the NBA. Seemingly if you can make it past 3 (your first contract renewal for most drafted players) then there's a good chance you can make it to 11 (likely retirement age). None of the other sports seem to have that steep of a spike late in the game. 

DonAZ

September 30th, 2022 at 8:33 AM ^

I wonder also: that chart is as of 2018, so if we subtract 11 from 2018 we get 2007.  Was that a particularly good year for NBA players coming out of college?  Maybe that 11th year spike represents a group of above-average players who came out at the same time and are working their way through a longer-than-average NBA career.

joegeo

September 30th, 2022 at 7:36 AM ^

Cool chart.

Need to squint here but the median (50th percentile) looks to be at the 5 year mark. The data is ‘right skewed’ so the mean will be greater than the median, giving us an average > 5 years.

All this still supports the conclusion that Burke is well past the ‘did he make it in the NBA question.’

potomacduc

September 30th, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^

Another factor is that a lot of the one year careers may be guys who get their cup of coffee later in their careers, not from the draft. They may be undrafted, play a few years in the G League or Europe and then get their shot in their mid 20s or later. You do have a little bit of this with practice squads in the NFL, but maybe less than NBA. 

Mr. Elbel

September 30th, 2022 at 11:27 AM ^

Neat chart made by someone who should never make another chart ever again. Whose idea was it to use barely different shades of grey? It's not 50 but it's just as dumb. Colors exist, people. This is the internet. It doesn't cost you more to use colors.

Anyway, the one thing that continues to astound me is how long NHL players can play. It is not equal with the NFL in terms of violence, but is far and away more violent than the other two. How do their players consistently last so much longer? The 15+ years are dominated by the NHL. That's insane to me.

denverblue

September 30th, 2022 at 1:01 PM ^

Agreed, but at the very least, thank god it's no pie chart...

To your second point, my thought there is that NHL's athlete's bodies' are in much "healthier" shape than a football which is a sport that by and large emphasizes otherwise excessive playing weights, all the more so for lineman. All that weight on top of the hits can't be good for the joints long-term. Might be able to examine my hypothesis better if one were able to break out length of NFL career by position

Go Blue in MN

September 30th, 2022 at 6:55 PM ^

My uneducated guess is that NHL careers are longer than NBA careers because skating is easier on the body than running on a hard floor.  As for MLB, most players' ability to hit a fastball declines significantly after age 29.  I'd suspect that the average career of pitchers is much longer than that of position players for that reason.  You see more pitchers at the top of their game in the late 30s/early 40s, like Verlander and Scherzer.

RobM_24

September 30th, 2022 at 11:06 AM ^

I think this trade was mostly guys who are going to be cut, and the teams swapped before cutting to create trade exceptions and maneuver the luxury tax. Good chance he's let go, but he'll probably land somewhere.