Top 10 Basketball 2021 Recruit signs with Milwaukee
He’s playing for his dad, who has been at Milwaukee since LaVall Jordan took the Butler job, he had Duke, Georgetown, and UVA offers. Highest rated recruit ever for the Horizon League, currently number 4 overall for ESPN.
I’ll admit that this is something I thought we’d see more of with the one and done rule, guys going somewhere off the beaten path. Maybe Michael Beasley choosing first West Virginia, then Kansas State, made me think that it would happen all the time.
Patrick, is that you?
Bark twice if you're in Milwaukee
I believe him not going to Duke seals it for Michigan as the #1 composite class for 2021, correct?
Also Seth Trimble just got a Crystal Ball for Michigan from Evan Flood.
Great link game, my dude
Having a great link game should always be praised. It's like doing the hustle work, being the glue guy on the boards. Great linkers are the Eli Brooks of message boards.
"It's really all (I've) got."
Also, what a compliment on a Wednesday. Going to get out my jazz flute and take the rest of the day off.
Tipton Edits needs some practice. That's not a great photoshop job. Milwaukee's colors are more yellow/Vegas gold than orange. The color of the coach's tie is closer than the Tennessee-like color on the player.
I believe Trimble is a '22. Won't help the '21 class much.
According to 247, Michigan has it's top 2 ranked recruits of all time (well, since '99 when 247 started tracking them) coming in 2021. They'll also have 5 of their top 15 and 7 of their top 20 from that same time period all on the roster next year. UM basketball is in good hands.
https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Season/2021-Basketball/Commits/
If you're only going to play one year, you certainly don't want to spend it being miserable with Coach K.
Six figures (in bundles of 20s and 100s) probably eases the pain.
The Baldwin family windfall if Patrick Sr keeps his job (via the efforts of his son) trumps whatever Duke is paying.
Why would his dad have to pay him??
I think the idea is that the dad would have a successful season or two and might get a raise.
He's on the hot seat and Patrick being on campus for a year or two could do enough to get dad a new contract.
If I’m an NBA franchise, this is a major red flag.
Doesn’t that depend on what he does? If he dominates the Horizon, but gets shut down in a tournament or non conference setting, sure. But if he’s a high quality player in both settings, it would still seem to translate, see Gordon Hayward and Steph Curry.
There are multiple parts to this that he’s going to have to overcome.
1. He could have gone to any program in any league and he chose a lesser one that will pit him against lesser competition (not sure if Curry or Hayward had better options). Is he scared of competition?
2. That lesser program is coached by his dad. If you’re a year away from playing in the biggest league in the world, does it say something about your maturity that you’re still unwilling to “leave the nest”?
You are reaching on point 2. If anything, I think it shows MORE maturity. He can either be coached by his dad and be under the constant microscope of his family, or go to Virginia or Duke and pretend to play school and party. Is Jace immature because he plays for his dad..
Co-sign.
How many times to players get one last chance to be with family in their chosen field? Some people like being with their families.
Think about what he could be doing for his father...top recruit, potentially talented enough to help carry the team through the league, get his father to a NCAAT. Could be looked at as a very selfless move.
Given the amount of nepotism that inheres at all levels of American life, point 2 is. . . not close to accurate. And if he's going to succeed in the NBA, the league will ascertain how good he is.
Having good players stray from the confines of just a few teams is, in the main, healthy for basketball.
Taking an opportunity to spend time with his father that he may not get again, yeah, really immature.
Not to mention potentially giving his father’s coaching career a giant boost if he can lead the program to success and attract better players to the school.
I think this is the biggest thing -- whatever Baldwin feels about a brighter college spotlight, he's doing his dad a huge solid. And if I'm a small-market team drafting a guy with the potential to be a franchise cornerstone, it's definitely a plus if that guy has shown a willingness to pass up on bigger stages/bigger markets out of loyalty to people he's close to.
Larry, I find your assessment idiotic x 2.
Hmm, a major red flag, you say. Here are the top 3 picks in the last NBA draft.
Anthony Edwards, ranked #2 in HS, could have gone anywhere. Stayed home to play for a horrendous Georgia team that finished 13th in the SEC. How bad would they have been without him?
James Wiseman, suspended and only played one game because of NCAA violations.
LaMelo Ball, no need to elaborate.
NBA scouts the players, it doesn't matter where they play. They interview them and those around them to assess their character and attitude. Darius Bazley went in the first round after decommitting from Syracuse and skipping college to just train privately.
Bonding with your dad is... bad?
If Giannis "He's Beasting on Rec League Level Talent in Greece So He Really Can't Be Good" Antetokounmpo can turn into a back-to-back MVP in the NBA without facing elite talent whatsoever before coming into the league, I think this kid can play ball at a mid-major in the United States and be just fine.
Have you heard of Gonzaga? How about Ja Morant? Just a dumb take
YEESH, I really upset some folks here with my take on a not-yet college player who wasn’t even considering Michigan!
If it makes you all feel any better, every single one of your wives would leave you for me.?
I don't think anyone is really upset because you posted a terrible opinion. It's not as if we're disappointed in you. We're just pointing out why it's a terrible take.
If you want an explanation, it's because your take is stunningly ridiculous and not even remotely grounded in fact.
I think it's crystal clear in just two posts that no ones wife is leaving anyone for you.
The problem with that is it was a brilliant take and your wife would drop you like a bad habit if I rolled by. ?
Cousin Larry always gets so feisty when people dont agree with his, typically terrible, hot takes. its ok lil larry go take a bath and calm down before your asthma flares up.
My wife might leave me for you but I'll have you know that has everything to do with me and not you
"If it makes you all feel any better, every single one of your wives would leave you for me.?"
You'd do that for us? Solid move man thank you!
To me this is a major breath of fresh air and a feel good story. Can't believe you are trying to make this into a negative. Even with that, the "easy" or conventional road would probably be going to Duke. I think it shows a level of loyalty and maturity that is refreshing and probably an overall positive to his NBA prospects.
When I own an NBA franchise, I'll favor a kid that goes and plays for his dad when he could have went to any of the blue bloods. To me it shows the kid has some character.
OK, here’s where I’m coming from. I recently watched a breakdown of Anthony Bennett (former #1 pick, out of the league after four years). One NBA executive said the problem was Bennett rolled out of bed bigger, stronger, and faster than everyone around him, and that’s how he succeeded. The moment things got difficult, he turtled, and that’s why he failed. I would just think that teams would want a player battle-tested as hard as possible before rolling the dice on him. Nobody will get that playing for his dad for one year in the Horizon league, so CHOOSING to go that route (not doing it because it was his best offer) might give pause.
Why do you overlook all the many small-college guys that made it big and focus on him?
Bennett played with socks on. Are socks a red flag?
Why do you overlook my actual point? How many of those smaller school heroes CHOSE to play against far-lesser competition when they had offers from schools from far more competitive conferences?
Yeah, all these guys playing lesser talent at *checks notes* Gonzaga are really suffering because playing bad competition.
Good, fuck Duke...
Damn you beat me to it.
Fuck Duke.
I think Michael Beasley originally verbally committed to UNC-Charlotte. IIRC Bobby Lutz had hired one of his AAU coaches, who Huggins then swooped for when he got to Kansas State.
West Virginia isnt really off the beaten path.
They have gotten dudes.
Must really love his Dad
I’ll admit that this is something I thought we’d see more of with the one and done rule, guys going somewhere off the beaten path.
Counterpoint: if you're only going to play one year in college, why not try to be like Carmelo and win it all?