Tex and OU reportedly all but Official
According to an Austin reporter (Kirk Bohls), he has a "prominent" course that says the deal is all but done. Could be announced in as little as a week. Deal has been on the way for 6+ months and TAMU had no idea and no input. Only the Tex Governor can stop it at this point (and it's logical he's been in the know for a while).
https://twitter.com/kbohls/status/1418553992691466245?s=20
HT: Angelique Chengelis - she's a good follow
lol SOURCE
I am astounded the Big Ten was blindsided by this. They knew that consolidation into 16 team super conferences was coming. We all knew. Texas and Oklahoma are the obvious jewels in the consolidation game. And yet...the Big Ten is caught flatfooted. So whose carcass do they pick? The ACC? Notre Dame?? They hate the Big Ten. Virginia and North Carolina? They would probably be the best of a bad situation but they are not Texas and Oklahoma. The (formerly) Big Twelve? Kansas? A total football non-entity for all of time. West Virginia? Please.
Wondered if Kentucky and Missouri could be poached but why would they leave a SEC super conference?
How would a 16 team conference help Michigan?
Well my comment on the last thread did NOT age well.
Wouldnt Oklahoma's governor have a say in this as well?
TBH, I have no idea why or how any governor would have power over an individual school to move into a different athletic conference. Seems kind of like asking Mr. Rogers to decide where the next color purple should feel.
What do governors have to do with colleges choosing conferences?
The Governor of Texas appoints the University’s Regents. I don’t know how much autonomy they have after that.
Yes - and its happened before where state governments have stepped in to block shifts. (or there are rumors of such)
Except everyone said when Texas was threatening to leave the B12, the governor would block it because it would break up Texas and TAMU.
Nothing happened.
TAMU eventually left on their own.
So one note about that is that Rick Perry who was governor at the time was an A&M graduate so there were "rumors" that he wanted what was best for A&M
If anything , it would have to be if the Universities are public ?
The Michigan state constitution largely shields MIchigan and MSU from government interference and enshrines them as independent entities. This is part of the reason Michigan has such a strong public higher education system free from from political diktats. Not so in other states so best not to assume that governors will hold no sway.
Mike Gundy never should have cut the mullet
I'd pay to see Okie State fans wandering around Berkeley or San Francisco. (I'd also enjoy watching Cal fans in and around Stillwater.)
Nebraska fans (who are known to travel exceptionally well) descended upon Berkeley like locusts when the Huskers played at Cal in 1998. I didn't live here at that time, but a friend who was an undergrad at Berkeley back then said it was comical to watch them roam around campus looking like tractor drivers while latte-sipping Cal students and hippie Berkeley residents (most of whom haven't the slightest clue about football) stared at them quizzically.
I need you to post this a second time just so I can upvote it again; this is solid gold.
Hahahaha, thanks I needed a laugh today. My nephew goes to OSU so I'm going to send this to him
Texas and OU are officially turds
Wish the big ten would have plucked them.
West:
Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Northwestern.
East:
Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, Indiana. Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers.
Now only counter I see is:
USC and Notre Dame
West:
USC, Notre Dame, Nebraska
Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota
Northwestern, (Purdue)
East:
Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State
Michigan State, Indiana, (Illinois), Maryland, Rutgers
Alright B1G, it is officially poaching season!
Make the call to USC
Who the hell worth it is left?
Great point man, not a lot of worth out there? USC and UCLA, but that's a lot of cross country there. Do you just grab Duke and UNC, tell Rutgers to pound sand and move Sparty to B1G West?
Or same scenario above but VA / Va Tech, or any ACC combo, GA Tech
You have to aim big or it's pointless. You have to grab schools on the level of ND, Clemson, USC, Oregon. At minimum, UNC, UVA, Colorado.
Hadn't even thought of it but Clemson - given the perceived weakness of the ACC might consider the Big Ten. And given that you no longer have to be a CC to get in, it might be attractive?
Like I said hadn't even thought of Clemson but now my dream additions would be them and ND. I know everyone hates ND because they passed previously but damn those two would completely overshadow UT and Oklahoma moving to the SEC.
Cheers.
I want UNC and UVA. We'll get Syracuse and Pitt. YAY!
The SEC is really putting distance between itself and the B10. The latter needs to lure a couple big names or risks being the also-ran.
There is a huge difference in what the two conferences look for. The Bigten wants academic and cultural fit along with tv revenue. The SEC thinks solely of football competition. With success there, it generates revenue.
This helps the SEC in basketball as well, both of those teams are decent hoops programs as well.
That was true until we added Maryland and Rutgers
Rutgers WAS for the tv market. I’d assume the same for Maryland. Nebraska was always the odd ball addition to me (as in what do they bring to the table).
Big Ten just wanted TV revenue. That's it. Rutgers and Maryland were never really academic or cultural fits.
Maryland is a top 20 public university—and they have been growing in in academics for the past 15 years. They also bring the DC market and basketball competition. As someone from Midwest who lives in MD and has had family and friends at schools in both—they “culturally” fit. Rutgers is also a good academic fit, tied with Penn State in current rankings at 23 in US News rankings.
From an Academic Standpoint, the Big 10 and ACC should merge.
Actually, I think you're right and I was wrong. The B10-ACC makes more sense than the B10-Pac12, if only for logistical reasons. Culturally, the Pac12 is most akin to the B10. But The ACC is nearby and also has a lot of big, researchy schools, several of which are very good academically. You just have to take a few less than stellar academic schools like Clemson. But with the Pac12, you'd have to take a few crappy ones, too.
EDIT: But of course now you'd be looking at like 24 teams so that doesn't work either. So you'd have to march a handful of low-hanging schools out back and execute them.
It’s an arms race and the Bigten is falling behind again.
B10/ACC could do 3 divisions. Divisional champs and highest ranked non-champ face off in semifinals.
While historically true, I sincerely hope we abandon this approach. I mean, it's 2021. Outside of a few schools in the B1G and the Ivy League, NO ONE in college football gives a rats behind about "academics". Schools have been paying players for decades! AND, now NIL is officially "legal" so academics are going to be even more marginalized. Like, let's just drop the absurd pretense already. Either catch up to the entire rest of CFB, or join the Ivy League conference and start a new rivalry with Harvard. You can't have both.
So what "Cultural Fit" do you see with these Rutgers' fans....
Notre Dame, Clemson, FSU? I don't think acquiring any other schools has this kind of impact. I'd rather see Michigan and OSU join the SEC at this point.
Why would you want Michigan to finish 3-9 or 4-8 every year?
How pissed is A&M about this? Want to be the only Texas B1G school?
TX Gov. already knew. TX A&M didn't get enough SEC schools to veto the move. It's as good as done.
This could be true. But stop commenting as if you're breaking news every time you speak. You are no inside source.
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A&M won’t leave the SEC, because of money and because there is no where else to land that makes any sense, but it has to burn them to know the entire conference has been working against them behind their backs for half a year. No one in their conference respects them, and all they can do is grin and bear it.