In Support of Brady's Two Point Call

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Brass balls.

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85Lee

November 30th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^

An overtime shootout against a team that has 2 players averaging over 8 yards per carry and your only stop of the half was a fumble where Hyde was dragging 4 guys down feild. You have a second string kicker and an injured qb. You are an extreme underdog and 3 yards away from almost certain victory. The extra point gets you into a 50-50 toss-up at best.

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Class of 1817

November 30th, 2013 at 3:45 PM ^

Anyone who disagrees is being tranparently contrarian for its own annoying sake.

You're a big underdog.

You're at home.

You can't stop their offense.

Final seconds.

You go for 2.

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Cali Wolverine

November 30th, 2013 at 4:18 PM ^

...underdog, at home, final seconds...except I would change we can't stop their O to they can't stop our O.* *except they were able to stop our O...for one play...on the 2 point conversion...in the final secs...with the game in the line. At least we played almost 2 full halves of football this year.

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DonAZ

November 30th, 2013 at 11:05 PM ^

I agree with you.  But I'm presently engaged in a debate on another site with someone who insists its a set-in-stone rule that a team never goes for two at home in that situation.  That person then cites the Auburn win over Alabama as proof of that.  The two situations not being comparable doesn't seem to matter.  It's a cosmic law, I guess.

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acbaby

November 30th, 2013 at 3:44 PM ^

Thought it was a good call.  They'd been having success with the quick, short routes.  Ohio defended the play well - I think Brady made the right call.

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harmon40

November 30th, 2013 at 4:30 PM ^

Specifically, what I think is that any coach anywhere would have struggled to adjust around so much inexperience on OL and TE's.

And very importantly:

Although the final result hurts today, I can't imagine any recruits wavering b/c of it. An epic massacre, which most expected, may have caused some doubts/second thoughts.

I look forward to seeing what this staff does with these players as they continue to grow.

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wolverine1987

November 30th, 2013 at 6:08 PM ^

I think it's already been proven than Borges is a poor OC, and neither one good game, not one bad game, would lead me to a decision of that type. His body of work is poor, I don't think there is any question of that. We have lost to teams where we had superior talent, both last year and this, so the youth excuse (while having some validity in general) evaporates when you look at the body of work, and the terrible games he has called (MSU'12, OSU last year, PSU and Iowa this year, and more).

As an example, I was infuriated with Borges during this game last year, and think beyond question we lost because of the offensive plan and play calling. But I never thought he should lose his job over it. Now I do, and one good game does not in any way make me now think the weight of the evidence shifts in his favor. 

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harmon40

December 1st, 2013 at 3:32 PM ^

An explanation becomes an excuse only if it is invalid.  In our case, pointing to the youth on the team is not invalid, it is plainly obvious. 

10 of 14, wolverine1987.  10 of 14.  Someone around here needs to continue harping on that number as much as necessary until it finally sinks in.  14 scholly OL, 10 with freshmen eligibility.  Exactly who is it that you think would not have stuggled with that kind of depth chart?  I can't think of anyone.

MSU '12?  Really?  I thought we won that game.  And after Denard had thrown 6 picks vs the other two elite defenses we had faced, was it not a defensible decision to limit the playbook a little bit vs. MSU?

OSU last year - everyone harps on that, "Why did they stop going to Denard?"  Has it occurred to you that maybe he re-aggravated his ulner nerve injury?  Maybe that had something to do with his fumble? 

I'd like to see Borges working with a normal roster, i.e. mostly upperclassmen, before passing judgment.  And this is ludicrous?

Again, strong disagree. 

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