Summer campus tours
My daughter is a rising sophomore in high school, and since we'll be in Ann Arbor next week, I was wondering about the informational tours. On the website it just mentions being for "prospective freshmen," but does that mean it's intended for rising juniors or seniors? Would it be of value to her at 15, or would we be better off just roaming campus on our own?
For a date like 7/5, do we need to reserve a spot in advance?
And lastly, where's the best place to park if we're going to be in town all day and for dinner afterwards?
(She's interested in law and criminal justice, if that matters any)
Pretty sure it doesn't technically matter what age your daughter is to do an info session and tour. And even if when you sign up for an info session and tour and you said she was a junior instead of a sophomore, no one is going to care enough to check. I think she should sign up for a tour. But I also think exploring campus on your own is definitely also good
Thanks for the feedback. It looks like maybe they're only 45 minutes? So I guess plenty of time for both approaches. I doubt she'll be interested in seeing the Big House, but I really hope we at least get a picture
The way the tour is - I believe based on our tour of UVA last week - is about a 45 minute session with an admissions officer followed by a campus tour led by a guide. That can be anywhere from an hour and a half to 2 hours depending on the interest level of your group and the student guide you get.
Our daughter (a performing arts major) had to be coaxed to look up from her book when we showed her The Big House....
Agree that any high school student who has any sort of interest in Michigan, or college in general, can/should go on these tours. My niece, now a rising HS junior, took multiple campus tours last summer before her sophomore year. My BIL figured that, as long as they're on vacation near good schools in which his daughter has a remote interest, they may as well take the campus tours.
Exactly my thinking as well. My brother and his family lives in Madison so we're stopping there first, and I may be able to convince her to accompany me on one of my business trips to Omaha so she can check out Creighton.
Yes. The info session gives pertinent information for high school aged prospective students to help them understand what all goes in to the admission process, in order to help students make decisions throughout their high school career to maximize their chances. Waiting till Junior/Senior year means minimizing your opportunity to make decisions that would potentially elevate your admissibility, since students are really evaluated in large part off of what they’ve done 9-11 grades.
I would encourage you to register for a specific time/date, as summer info sessions fill up fast and are well attended.
Thank you!
contact Ugrad admissions. they will set you up as best they can.
UM doesn't have Crim Justice or Pre-Law as majors, however, they do have tons of adjacent fields like public policy, etc.
Just graduated from law school last month. I could be wrong about this, but I don't think any college has a major that's actually called 'Pre-Law'.
Pre-law is just a term people use to indicate their future plans. Law school, unlike medical school, has no specific prerequisite courses. Anyone with an undergraduate degree may apply, so I'm not sure what a pre-law concentration would look like.
I thought I saw some schools actually having a pre-med major (and I assumed therefore pre law), but I dont care enough to look it up TBH
Username checks out.
It's not technically a degree that any school would offer but some schools do have pre-law programs that identify helpful courses that go with various majors.
I work in criminal justice policy. You don't need to be a criminology major to get a lot of the basics. There are some things she would have to do independently to get experience though, I used two higher level internship courses in Polsci and sociology to work at the public defenders office and teaching a class at Gus Harrison, you have to do things like that if you go to Michigan to really build out your knowledge base.
“Crim Justice or Pre-Law as majors”
And even if they did, those wouldn’t be the most beneficial majors to pursue if the end goal is law school, anyway.
I was expecting a thread about Gerry Dinardo and Howard Griffith visiting during summer player drills and workouts
There is a parking deck right next to the undergrad admissions office.
Nevermind... delayed double post
There is parking available in all of the public lots now that all of the students are gone for the summer. The biggest hurdle now is the construction everywhere that keeps traffic the same. They tore up half the roads the second the students were gone...
She isnt going to college in Mother Russia? (Or does school go to you there...?)
Best of luck as she begins her college research process!
At this point, her primary interest has been going somewhere back East (BC, GW, NYU), and my only hope is she goes somewhere out of state. I'll get to show her my alma mater (Vandy) in October, but I'd like her to see the best university in the world first in hopes of creating some bias.
Bias is always good!
Send her to UNC
I hear there’s a rising senior on some kind of scholarship there.
Why does ms Putin need puny American criminal justice? You have dissenter, you slit throat. Boom. Superior soviet justice.
I do find her aspirational interest in being a public defender somewhat ironical.
Best advice I can give you: if she really wants to be a public defender, you MUST ensure that she has the opportunity to legitimately shadow some public defenders. The number of former students I have had who thought they wanted to be public defenders, until they actually experienced that work (whether that be in clinicals or post-grad) will astound you. That isn’t to say “don’t go to law school” (because there a million other paths in law, of course), but rather not to get dead set on that specific work without eyes wide open. The sooner she can know that (whether yes or no), the better, so that she doesn’t bypass other options because she thinks she wants to do that one specific thing.
Holy Hell, kids are expected to take college tours as 8th graders entering 9th grade?
When my kid gets to middle school, I need serious MGo Advice from you all!
Best advice is to forget about retirement and start doubling all your contributions to his or her college fund.
Have maxed out 529s for 4 years. This is wrong (not for me, I can afford it), but for society.
I gave my kid my GI Bill - College tuition, room and board, and living stipend. Russia should consider a similar program, best investment of my life.
I didn't realize GI bills were transferable. That's awesome.
I'm hoping she considers ROTC, but I'm not pushing it too hard. Yet.
As long as your daughter is in high school and has an interest it should be beneficial. My son will be a senior next year and we have our UM tour scheduled for 7/6. It was actually scheduled for last Friday but we postponed it so we could watch the baseball game versus Texas Tech. Visited UVA last week as well - very impressive tour there - can’t wait to see how UM stacks up in his eyes. I also took my daughter who is just 14 and will be a sophomore next year so your daughter’s age should be perfect for a tour.
Good luck with guiding yours through this!
It's been 15 years since I did the campus tours with the oldest daughter, so my info isn't recent, but one of the things I noticed was there was an inverse correlation between the academic standards and merit scholarships at many colleges, to the point that some of the top academic schools don't offer any merit based scholarships at all.
Living out of state, even if my daughter wanted to go to UM, I don't think I would have been able to afford it. At MSU she had nearly a full ride that at that time amounted to nearly $125,000.
Yeah, I guess we're talking $215K or so. We'll have to think long and hard about co-signing anything. Though we could just sell the house.
I think the tour would be of value for a student going into 10th grade. If you don't get to Ann Arbor on a regular basis I would suggest signing up for it. As far as parking is concerned the parking garages on Maynard and on South Forest are usually recommended. If you are willing to walk a few blocks you may be able to find a spot on the street outside of the range of the parking meters.
It sounds like your daughter is very accomplished already at such a young age if these are the schools she and your family are considering. Best wishes in your journey & decision making process. It’s a big step in life!
She got dad's brains and mom's drive.
But she's just now starting to discover boys, so this could all go sideways.
As for parking, I recommend free street parking north of Huron in the N. Thayer area. Parking should be ubiquitous at this time of year, is free, and is only a short walk from central campus.
As for law/criminal justice, you're looking at a grad degree, and I will defer to the UM law graduates' opinions whether it is better to get an undergraduate degree elsewhere and apply to UM law, to go through UM undergrad, or whether it makes no difference.
Btw-what is a "rising soph/junior"? Are there rankings? How many stars?
Took my 2 kids to many college campus visits (starting when they were in grade 7 and grade 9) the last few summers:
- Campus visit usually consist of an info sessions and a campus tour. All of our campus visits required simple online registration
- Call the college directly if either info session or campus tour is full. I find most colleges to be very accommodative
- Colleges will never say it out loud but I believe they value prospective students’ campus visits. I think most colleges keep a record of campus visits and wouldn’t be surprised if they check it against their college applicants list. (“Michigan of the East” was the only school we visited that specifically said they don’t keep a campus visit record)
- If you agree with #3 above then don’t forget to remind your daughter to mention her campus visit somewhere in college application. There is also a time and money saving trick if you have more than one child: use one child’s info to sign up for info session and use another child’s info to sign up for campus tour. Then you have the option to not repeat the same campus visit for your 2nd child later.
Hope this is helpful. By the way, I am a proud Papa as my daughter will be a freshman at UM this fall and we are looking forward to go to the Big House and attend her 1st ever college football game (and my 1st since 88’) together on August 31st (vs. Middle Tennessee State). Any advice in terms of securing a suitable ticket for myself and how to go about sitting together with my daughter who has student season ticket would be highly appreciated (Sorry don’t mean to hijack this thread but I am new at Mgoblog and can’t post a new thread yet).
Good idea on #4, though this time at least her younger sister will be tagging along with us.
is foreign student tuition even higher than non-resident tuition, Comrade?
Depends on which side of the Urals you're from
Oui Oui
It's mentioned above, but do make sure to sign up and check in for tours/sessions. It cannot hurt and supposedly gives you a slight bump as you're showing "interest". All the tours I took for two were well organized with info as to where it meets, when, how long, where to park, etc. Ours for Michigan started at the activities building and they suggested parking at the Maynard garage, which is a couple blocks away and is close to the middle of central campus.
If you have time, drive around a little to see north and athletic campuses.
Enjoy.
Will do...and the best part is I'll get a free steak at Ruth's Chris afterwards!
Good luck. Both of my daughters were accepted, neither went. Sad.
We just did the LSA and Engineering tours today. It was HOT! Nothing would prevent a younger student from attending. I was actually thinking a younger student would be able to plan better for what she needs to gain admission than a rising senior. They definitely discuss things that are important for what she should schedule class-wise. Things that would help her now more than with a semester to go.
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