Steven Threet knocks Rich Rod, Lloyd Carr, and Bill Martin on Twitter
Okay. Cool. Hook 'em!
this response was funny the first 1000 times it was posted on this site.. enough with this dumbass response
okay...
cool...
Hook 'em.
/fin
I still think it's hilarious, it would seem that you don't laugh at much of anything..
Damn, straight fire from Threet.
I liked him and thought he deserved Michigan Man for life. He would have been completely a fish out of water trying to run that offense even with a good, experienced crew around him. Instead he was one of 10 new starters and no one knew what they were doing.
He was thrown to the wolves and all he did was play as hard as he could and do what he was asked. His earned his salt. And we'll always have Wisconsin.
That said, tbh, I'm not really sure how his comment flowed from the Gattis remark.
Yeah, struggling to understand the connection myself.
I believe he thinks its bs the coaches don’t have a pecking order for qb already.
They have a pecking order right now. Gattis will say they are all even because he wants them all to work hard as they should. But if we had to play a game tomorrow trust me they have a clear cut favorite to start right now
Exactly. There is an order and its obvious to 60% of Michigan fans. The other 40% are blind i guess. They even think their guy can run better. I guess because of some attribute.
His mechanics were not good. We beat Wisconsin in spite of him. Nick Sheridan had the one good game at QB for Michigan that year, against Minnesota. He got a fair shot at ASU and got passed up. He was in a tough spot for sure but he just wasn't that good.
My recollection of that game is:
- Wisconsin had to settle for a thousand FGs in the first half. That RR (Shafer) defense was actually decent, but Wisconsin's kicker hit a bunch of 40+ yarders
- The team getting booed a bit going into the lockerroom having put up less than 20 yards of offense
- The offense did sorta enough and Wisconsin's offense just sorta blew it. Still don't know how we pulled that game out
- Steven Threet's keeper is still probably the most I've seen a defense get confused by Michigan. If he had some more speed, that was a walk in TD. Only other one that compares was the FB counter/dive against BYU? Or Northwestern? In 2015 where no one knew the FB had the ball till he was 10 yards downfield
I just looked it up: Threet was 12-31 passing for 96 yards with 1 TD and 2 Ints. He did have the nice run.
Wisconsin got over confident due to Michigan having a poor record at the time and the Badgers jumped to a quick lead. You could see Wisconsin players laughing in the second quarter. They seemed a little giddy. A couple of big plays paired with some decent execution late in the game and Michigan is back on top. Too late for Wisconsin to regroup. Wisconsin let one go and per several interviews are bitter about it to this day.
Frankly, I'd be laughing too if my opponent had <20 yards of offense through 2 quarters.
Steven Threet's keeper is still probably the most I've seen a defense get confused by Michigan.
Idk, another UM QB faked the pants off of Wisconsin 2 years ago and had a massive run. Same deal, would've had a walk in TD with more speed.
Quarantine + Alcohol or maybe just latent bitterness.
Yeah I’m not sure what he’s so fired up about in that comment. Threet, Sheridan, first year coach RichRod and the cupboards left bare by Carr, it’s a miracle we won any games those first two years.
That is a valid idea but to me they wasted one of the best defenses in the country. It seems Rich Rod should have able to run an offense that could do just a little more.
That 2008 OL was perhaps the worst I’ve ever seen at Michigan. That wasn’t the whole story, but it was certainly a big part of it.
Can anyone who understands this please explain?
I'm assuming that triggered something in him from the days of him and Sheridan and air in the QB room. I don't know why
I don't quite follow it either but he is 100% spot on with …"shit show rich rod"
He transferred, went to ASU, started a bunch of games, was thoroughly mediocre (18 TDs; 16 INTs) in his one season there while going 4-6 as a starter and then unfortunately suffered a concussion and needed to retire.
He certainly wasn't helped by the coaching change at UM, but in the end he just wasn't that good a football player. He was just OK. It happens.
Not sure what that has to do with Gattis. If anything, his backup at ASU (Brock Osweiler) should have taken over for him before Threet got hurt.
Yeah I mean if Carr stays, so does Mallett. And if he stayed even longer he would have brought in another highly rated QB. That whole change is the only reason Threet did something other than hold a clipboard at Michigan.
I was just going to post something like this. If Lloyd doesn't leave *maybe* Mallet stays. (I still think that's debatable.) Lloyd for sure recruits another pro-style QB that is probably at least as good as Threet.
if Carr stays, so does Mallett.
This myth needs to die.
Mallett is/was a dickhead, wasn't liked on campus, and there's no guarantee his behavior doesn't get him trouble down the road.
How is it a myth? Taylor Lewan was a dick head. We had Frank Clark.
Michigan isn't exempt from having dick heads and them playing their full careers at Michigan.
ND had Jimmy Clausen at the exact same time...Michigan would've found ways to keep Mallett.
But if he left, Carr would've just got someone else who would've started over Threet. He wasn't good. He has a point, kind of...I think. But he wasn't good.
Michigan goes and gets...
Tom Savage and/or Andrew Maxwell in 2009.
Tyler Bray and/or Chase Rettig in 2010 IF we don't get Devin Gardner, who I personally think Carr would've taken and he would've started over Threet from day ONE.
Kyle Boehm and/or Kevin Hogan in 2011.
Mallett grew up an Arkansas fan and played his HS ball in Texarkana, TX, right over the border from Arkansas. Mallett wanted to commit to Arkansas, but Mitch Mustain, then regarded as the top QB recruit in the nation, had signed with Arkansas in 2006. Mallett didn't want to be second fiddle to Mustain in Fayetteville, and signed with Michigan instead.
It's an open secret that Mallett was never happy in Ann Arbor, and since Mustain transferred from Arkansas after the 2006 season, Carr had to lobby hard for Mallett to stay with Michigan for his freshman year in 2007. Once RR came on board with a totally different system, Mallett had additional justification for making the move he wanted to already, and he transferred to Arkansas after the 2007 season.
In other words, if Carr had stayed, Mallett would still have left for Arkansas anyhow.
This is consistent with what I've heard from multiple sources.
Can confirm mallet was a giant douche on campus and not liked at all, even by some of his teammates
Who was a bigger douche on campus, Mallett or Garrett Rivas?
I just realized that Mallett is consistently referred to as a douche...and it's not a word that is universally used, but it fits him like saying he was a quarterback. It just is who he is...
Glad we're all on the same page.
Looking back, I don't think I ever considered the tough circumstances. GT changed coaches and systems after he enrolled early; Michigan changed coaches and systems after 1 redshirt season; finally found some stability at ASU, but concussions knocked him out.
Assuming he played spring ball at GT, that basically means he learned 4 different playbooks under 4 different coaches at 3 different schools, and was forced to sit 2 of his 4 seasons due to transfer rules. That can't be easy for anyone to succeed in those circumstances.
That's the thing - he was at GT and then Paul Johnson showed up and said "I'm running his weird triple option and you aren't going to be my QB", so he transfers to UM only to have RR come in and say "you are not remotely who I want for this run-based offense", and he still tried to make it work. It's likely he pissed off some option witch and she cursed him for a couple of years.
The weird thing is, though he was slow afoot, he actually had pretty good running instincts, better than some faster QBs we have had, my problem with him was his throwing mechanics.
Agreed. He seemed to basically "get" the offense.
I can't decipher any of that shit
I don’t understand the connection to the Gattis quote. Am I missing something?
No. They have nothing to do with each other as far as I can tell. Basically just seems like he wanted to express his frustration with his tenure.
Seems like COVID drinking. My issue has always been the handoff to RR. Still blame Carr.
The handoff from Carr wasn’t going to change Rich Rod’s inability to field a competent defense, his inability to recruit anyone of size, or his inability to mold his offense around the pieces he inherited.
I get it. He was hired to run the spread option. But you can’t run that with Nick Sheridan and Steven Threet. Rich Rod had plenty of faults that caused his ultimate demise that had nothing to do with Carr.
Gattis is saying there's no front runner (regarding QB competition) in an Angelique puff piece.
Threet is calling bullshit on Gattis' quote.
In calling bullshit, Threet snaps and throws Carr and Martin under the bus.
I’m not sure why Threet would think there should be a front runner when both QBs aren’t even officially practicing and haven’t been coached by Gattis since bowl season.
I didn't gather Threet would think that. I think maybe he's just as tired of all the bullshit like we are.
But yeah, this is weird after all this time. Maybe the PTSD wore off.
Why would he be “tired of the bullshit”? He was here two years and didn’t enjoy it.
also, what “bullshit” are we tired of? The coaches saying there’s not a front runner to the starting QB job? As if they owe us some inside information? As if there IS a front-runner considering they haven’t even worked with either of the QBs since bowl prep? They’re just supposed to ignore potential off-season improvements and name a leader in the middle of May?
Threet's college experience was beyond unlucky. He, a pro-style passer, commits to Georgia Tech and then they hire a triple-option coach. He transfers to Michigan and they hire a running spread coach. He tried to make it work here in a new system with a paper-thin OL and absolutely got the crap beat out of him. He transfers once more, to ASU, and finally has to retire due to concussions. Whew. Can't fault the guy for wondering "What if?".
I agree that this seems like an odd response to the Gattis comments though. It's like he was waiting a long time for a Michigan QB-related tweet to get this rant off his chest.
Yeah this definitely gave me a bit of the old Uncle Rico "We would have won state, and I could have gone pro" vibe.
I'm gonna guess some of the saltiness to Lloyd and the AD is maybe that he felt misled about how he would be used. I'm sure he wasn't envisioning the Richrod spread n shread when he decided to transfer here. Don't know what Angelique did to trigger that reaction though
Plus he lied to myself and my family.
— Steven Threet (@sthreet) May 14, 2020
“Feed em shit and keep them in the dark”. What a great movie The Departed is.
— Steven Threet (@sthreet) May 14, 2020