OK, B1G Championship time. Who do you want to win, who do you think will win, or do you no longer care?
this guy evidently hired to work for AD
Basic question boils down to whether or not I can tolerate OSU in the NC or MSU in the Rose Bowl. I'll take MSU in the Rose Bowl. We need to spread around the humilation on the national stage. OSU has done enough of it for us recently.
Yeah I think that's what the bowl predictions are saying. Either way, MSU's almost guaranteed to be in the Rose Bowl. I also would imagine Ohio would be in a BCS game with a loss. I'm pulling for MSU unfortunately because I don't want Ohio to win it all, especially if they get lucky with a Winston-less FSU. Actually, if I had to bet, I'd put money on State. Ohio's passing game really isn't much to brag about, and I think State's too good to be allowed to focus on Ohio's run game, as good as that is.
1 loss Auburn should play over 1 loss OSU.
A 1 loss Auburn will absolutely get into the NC over ohio, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't still get an at large bid.
So if OSU loses and Auburn loses, it is FSU vs Bama again? Or do we still have a shot /s
between Bama and Missouri and I'd have to give the slight edge to Missouri as they lost in double OT and will have just beaten the same Auburn team that beat Alabama.
Pretty much whatever happens, MSU will be in the rose bowl. If MSU wins, they automatically go to the Rose Bowl. If OSU wins, they go to the BCS game, and MSU gets the Rose Bowl.
Honestly the only way that MSU doesn't make it to the Rose Bowl is if they get absolutely blown out by Ohio State. Barring that, I think they're safely in. So I'll cheer for MSU, because one rival getting screwed is better than none at all. (although it would be nice for Ohio St. to win, thus guaranteeing that there will be no SEC national champion this year)
But I would rather see another SEC champion than an Ohio champion.
Worst season ever.
meteor, slight edge to MSU, while I think the OSU O vs MSU D matchup is interesting, I'm not sure if I can stomach watching.
I hope osu takes them behind the woodshed. It'll give legitimacy for us to have a one point loss to one of the possible teams in the NCG and show that Sparty is a flash in the pan and gets exposed.
An 11-1 flash in the pan...
11 wins, none over teams in the Top 25.
Probably the weakest schedule of any Top 10 team.
True but....NOT SO FAST.....I believe sparty has 3 eleven win seasons in the past 5 years. Wish we did!!
Sparty does a lot with a little and if we don't start taking care of business, people are going to start dissing us for them. Honestly, what've we done in the past 10 years. Nada...sad to say.
I'd say OSU is more the flash in the pan than Sparty. OSU had a CAKEWALK of a schedule and their only serious challenge was us and our inconsistent offense. Which put 600 yards on them. At least Sparty has improved throughout the year.
But I won't be pulling for either team. Sucky result either way.
Has MSU beaten a team currently ranked? I want them to lose by 50.
MSU lost to ND, who is receiving enough votes to be considered #28 in the AP. They won at Iowa, who would be #30, and beat Minnesota who also received votes. That's it, the highlight of their 11-1 record is a road win over #30 Iowa. Ohio State hasn't really beat anybody either, except #21 Wisconsin at home. It's basically a sham.
If MSU loses by 50 OSU is guaranteed a spot in the BCS championship.
I hate MSU as much as anyone but wanting the No. 1 defense in the country to get blown out by our archrival isn't exactly... good.
As much as it pains me to root for MSU, a true Michigan fan can never root for the Buckeyes. Go Green, Go White
to look at it this way, which one winning makes US look better? Considering last week, I think osu winning does that. But its obviously debatable.
I really don't see how it matters for us who wins. I look at preventing the situation where the winner gets the most benefit, and that would certainly be Ohio in the NC game.
and I'm not going to argue with you on that, mainly because I can see merit to both sides of the aisle here, BUT...in the big picture, I'd rather see a B1G team in the NCG than another SEC team to potentially win it. I'm sick of them and their streak. NOW, all that said...FSU vs osu in the NCG? I'm all Noles.
Wait... so you'd rather OSU have a shot at winning the NC than an SEC team.
Are you Jim Delaney's son or something?
I would take an SEC championship any and every year of an OSU one. That's not even close for me... I get conference pride,but not when it's OSU that's playing.
"so you'd rather OSU have a shot at winning the NC than an SEC team"
I would rather see a team of Hitler's in the NCG than Ohio.
Hitler died in 1945 let it go.
Winning more games makes us look better.
7-5 = a turd that you have a hard time polishing.
I'm pulling for Michigan State. As I see it, they've arrived at the point where they are honestly. Ohio is coming off a decade of conference domination, a national championship based on a referee's inability to throw a flag, and a winning record against us that is unmatched in my lifetime. They get a wrist-slap from the NCAA for violations that cripple other schools, spend a single season in purgatory and are rewarded with one of the best coaches in the country, 24 straight wins, and an opportunity to play in for the national championship THIS year?
Hell, no. F*** those guys. Go green. Go white.
Evil scale - Dantonio > Meyer
Meyer w/ an NC Game (even a loss) > Dantonio w/ a BTC and Rose Bowl win
Reason: national perception = State got lucky, OSU is back to dominating the B1G and competing for National Championships w/ and SEC coach.
We need State to shut Hyde and Miller down.
Why do I feel so queasy?
Tough call here - OSU in NC? Sucks. MSU in the Rose Bowl? Sucks. I would like to see Urban lose but hate to see Dantonio happy. Personally, since I live in Ann Arbor - I would prefer to see MSU lose. Too many sparties around that talk too much shit. At least with OSU I'm farther away from the fanbase. AND, having MSU winning a BIG championship means tougher for us to get the top guys in state. So in that regard, I think I'm actually going to be hoping the bucks win this one.
Watching these types of games is never a pleasant experience - basically feel like I've just gotton a lobotomy - someone scores and it's basically "meh" either way and overall uncomfortable since one of them has to win.
Dantonio doesn't have a happy setting. Only 'less scowl'.
Amen. Go go Ceres State Fightin' Meteors!
MSU deserves their first BCS bowl, in all honesty. They're long overdue.
No. Fuck em. Overdue my ass, let them rot in non-BCS purgatory forever
No they don't.
Hell no. Screw them.
Over at TeamRankings, they list Ohio State as a 5.5 point favorite with a Vegas-implied (not sure what algorithm they use here) score of 28-23.
|Ohio St.||Michigan St.|
|Rush Play %||62.19%||57.56%|
|Pass Play %||37.81%||42.44%|
|3D Conv %||52.24%||44.19%|
|RZ Scoring %||95.45%||76.47%|
|Ohio St.||Michigan St.|
|Opp Completion %||60.50%||48.42%|
|Opp 3D Conv %||36.14%||29.59%|
|Opp RZ Scoring %||78.95%||72.22%|
Dare I say go Sparty? I don't want to see Ohio in the national championship... but if they go undefeated I think they deserve it over Auburn - if that makes sense.
of the ESS EEE SEEE that if the season finishes as it sits now, ACC and B1G in the NCG, I'm fine with that. Bigger picture...imo.
Would love to see OSU get passed up. That'd be gleeful.
it would be great to see the cognitive dissonance if Auburn passed Ohio. After all, he did say (link):
"We're going to tell a group of young men, who just went 12-1 in a most difficult schedule against six ranked opponents, that they don't have a chance to play for a national championship? I'm going to need help with that one."
and if you present this quote to most osu fans, your head will get dizzy from all the spinning that'll follow.
Um, you do realize he was advocating Florida to jump Michigan, right? And that Michigan had lost a game as opposed to being undefeated as Ohio is now?
But the principle is the same: what matters is your resume. The SEC coaches, ADs, and fans, will always insist that a one-loss SEC team deserves to play in the NC game. Auburn's AD said a NC game without the SEC champion was un-American!
Auburn has beaten four teams currently ranked in the BCS top 25: @LSU (#15), @Texas A&M (#24), Georgia (#22), Alabama (#4). Ohio State's only signature win was against #21 Wisconsin.