December 4th, 2013 at 11:21 AM ^
The spartys and buckeyes go to OT where OSU wins. Auburn handles MO easily and jumps the OSU in the BCS poll and plays FSU in the championship gaem.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:53 PM ^
OR! FSU could lose to Duke; resulting in an OSU v. Auburn title game...and we all know who wins that one
December 4th, 2013 at 11:25 AM ^
I want Ohio's 24 game win streak snapped, and I want a Big 10 Team to beat OSU. I'm sick and tired of hearing OSU crow about their success, and how they're the only real team in the Big 10. Their hubris in planning for the National Championship is annoying. From my perspective, Michigan has already passed MSU in recruiting, and I'd much rather have MSU win now rather than later, when Michigan will be winning. Plus, I don't have any problem with them going to a BCS game, and they haven't been to the Rose Bowl for a long time.
I shouldn't have to say that I don't care for MSU, but they're the lesser of two evils, in my opinion. Ohio is the slimier, sleezier team, and I want to see Urban Meyer cut down to size. Ohio is lucky they won last week, and I want their offense to feel some real pain.
December 4th, 2013 at 11:43 AM ^
I tend to agree with you on most points. Ohio State had a gift of a season, especially with the Auburn win, and the eeking out of a win against us. But I fear more comments like, "Where's the threat?" coming out of Dantonio if they go on to win. Best case scenario is Michigan State wins and puts the Buckeyes in their place, and then Narduzzi leaves to head coach.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:06 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 11:26 AM ^
i honestly don't know if I really care who wins the game...I guess Ohio St. because we just gave them a great game, and I made a bet with my GF that no SEC teams would make the championship game this year (was really banking on Oregon at the time, she is a UK fan).
I really don't like either team, but I find myself pulling for OSU more often because I respect them more as a rival and College Football is better when both OSU and UM are good (god i hope we get good).....Sparty being good does little for the B1G. People will start to respect the B1G more when Michigan and OSU (also Penn State and Neb) are at the top again and Sparty/Wisconsin/Iowa/Nwestern look solid year to year. The SEC pretty much has their blue bloods looking good year to year with a lot of solid teams thrown in there (and UK lol). But we rational fans know all SEC teams outside of Bama are no better than any other solid team in any other conference. So I guess I am pulling for OSU to bring the whole perception of the B1G up one notch.
The B1G also desperately needs to have a good showing in bowl games this year, probably more than any other year. That means we will have to beat whoever we play (Georgia, Vandy, some Big12 team), OSU will have to have a good showing if they go to the MNC, Sparty will have to have a great showing in the Rose Bowl (hopefully they both somehow pull off a win), and the rest of our bowl teams have to have great showings or win. We need a winning bowl record, especially against SEC foes. I'm so sick of hearing how wide the gap is between the SEC and Big10...it is also bad for recruiting when kids are constantly reading Twitter and watching ESPN talk about how awesome every SEC team is even though it's pretty clear there are some pretty average teams in that conference.
I think those of you pulling against OSU and Sparty in their bowl games must live inside a B1G bubble of sorts, I live in SEC country and I must say I would much rather see every SEC team lose and the Big10 win to gain respect. The B1G is a laughingstock down here and needs to earn respect. Michigan (or any Big10 team for that matter) may not sniff another MNC if the perception of the B1G follows the path that the former Big East took. Our conference needs to look good if we ever want to be in the top 4 playoff discussion going forward. We don't want one B1G loss to keep us on the outside looking in. The Pac12 earned respect the past few years, even after USC's dominance, so can the B1G.
December 4th, 2013 at 2:56 PM ^
Tell it like it is!
December 4th, 2013 at 11:28 AM ^
I would like to see a flash pandemic which causes the players try to eat each other. This melee spills into the stands where the fans of each deplorabale fan base continue to gorge on the others brains and limbs. Finally, before the horror can spill into the streets and harm the nice people of Indianapolis, the USAF surgically destroys the stadium and spares us further tragedy. Or something like that.
December 4th, 2013 at 11:41 AM ^
hmmm that is stepping up the natural disaster talk. In this case the whole Earth isn't destroyed with the meteor scenario. Everybody else needs to step up their games.
December 4th, 2013 at 2:51 PM ^
Thanks. It's from the heart, man.
December 4th, 2013 at 3:05 PM ^
Only way to be sure.
December 4th, 2013 at 11:29 AM ^
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December 4th, 2013 at 11:35 AM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 11:35 AM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 11:38 AM ^
Begin rant:
I always root for my conference. If my conference looks good, my team looks better. I want a B1G team to win the next national championship, even if it can't be my team.
I can't stand the fact that the SEC has won the so many national championships in row. I can't stand knowing that Missouri and Texas A&M were middle tier teams in the Big 12 but by virtue of them being in the SEC, the "experts" are saying they are powerhouses. Cripes, Missouri lost to Navy just a few years ago. A&M was 7-6 in their last year in the Big 12 and the next year 11-2 in the SEC. These are largely the same teams. I guess the Big 12 must have been better than the SEC, right? No one seems to mention this very often.
People were talking about a 1 loss SEC team is more deserving than an undefeated B1G team. This is outrageous! So few people on this board seem to question this at all. Is Alabama a good team? Absolutely! Could they go undefeated in the B1G? Absolutely! Could a random B1G team beat them on a last-minute fluke play? Absolutely. I'm tired of my team being crappy. I'm tired of our conference being crappy. However, I'm not going to wish failure on my conference because my team sucks.
Ohio is the best team in our conference. That's where they should be. Michigan is supposed to be the other great team in our conference. They are not. That's not Ohio's fault. That's our fault. Someone once posted on here that we let down our rival, Ohio; that we are not living up to our obligation to them in this rivalry. The poster was immediately chastised, but I wholeheartedly agree with them. I absolutely HATE Ohio fans. They are the worst. However, their team wins. They won with Tressel. They're undefeated with Meyer. It's not Ohio's fault that we suck. It's Michigan's fault. It's Michigan's fault we lost to App. St. It's Michigan's fault we were owned by USC. It's Michigan's fault we can't win a Rose Bowl. It's Michigan's fault we've only won two bowl games in the last decade. It's Michigan's fault RR was hired. It's Michigan's fault we lose every time we play a good team.
The B1G is a great conference with a great history. It represents the Midwest and how many of us were raised. The B1G is also not as bad as everyone is saying. The B1G is all we have right now. If we can't bring glory to our conference, we need to cheer on those who can. It's not about a single team anymore. These days, the national appeal of a conference is almost as important as a team's record. I want Ohio and State to represent the B1G at the highest level and both smash their opponents. I hope every team in the B1G wins big. I hope one day soon recruits will want to play in the B1G because it’s the best football conference in the land.
Go Blue! Go B1G!
December 4th, 2013 at 1:59 PM ^
my sentiments exactly...best post in a long time whether it's popular opinion or not. I live in SEC country (in Lexington KY, home of UK) and i constantly hear how UK would be one of the top 4 or 5 teams in the B1G every year....I really want the Big10 to show up and show these moron SEC fans that college football is relatively even across the BCS landscape with the excetption of a few great teams with momentum (that can be easily lost if not careful), and anyone can lose to anyone.
Go Blue!....Go B1G! (cannot say "Go Ohio", but i hope they win)
December 4th, 2013 at 2:41 PM ^
It blows my mind all of the people on this board rooting against their own conference. While each team is measured by the conference they play in, these idiot posters are hoping our teams lose on the national stage to further perpetuate what a crappy conference the B1G is. The ACC is more highly regarded than the B1G these days. What a joke! To hope whatever team represents us in the MNC and Rose Bowl get embarrassed is idiotic, trashy, and reeks of insecurity.
The only way for our team to become relevant again is for us to beat the teams that beat everyone else. If our top two teams won big in bowl play, think about what that would mean for our conference and how much better we would look as a team.
In league play, I want Ohio and MSU to loose ALL of their games, but I always root for the B1G in EVERY OOC game. (Except, I'll admit, when MSU played Boise St. in Detroit a few years ago)
Maybe the posters on this board have never been outside the Midwest and don't realize everyone in the country thinks our conference is a joke. I'm suprised I haven't heard talk about a three loss SEC going to the MNC over an undefeated B1G team.
December 4th, 2013 at 2:52 PM ^
"I can't stand the fact that the SEC has won the so many national championships in row."
If we're completely honest, "the SEC" in this context refers mainly to three teams: Alabama (three times), LSU (twice), and Florida (twice), and then you have Auburn as the interloper with generational talent Cam Newton and their one...with this year's Auburn team's script still unfinished.
The SEC is what, 14, 16 teams (I can't even remember anymore)..."the conference" isn't winning these championships...a cabal of a few demonstrably superior teams, in some cases built/coached by the same man (Saban at LSU/Alabama) is. We're not seeing Kentucky, Vanderbilt, or Mississippi competing for supremacy. Even the second-tier teams like South Carolina and Georgia are nowhere near the status of being able to compete in the same way. Past powers like Tennessee are dormant and going nowhere, Arkansas is still feeling the effects of Bobby Petrino, the Florida teams that Urban Meyer coached are gone the way of the Pete Carroll-era USC teams. And the effect has been that the teams that AREN'T winning those championships are suddenly very competitive with two fair-to-middlin' former Big 12 schools like Mizzou and Texas A&M.
December 4th, 2013 at 3:19 PM ^
And you are correct in saying that only a few teams from the SEC have been great. However, one of the fair-to-middlin teams beat Bama last year. Alabama can be beaten. Everyone can be beaten.
Even if the same SEC team won the MNC every year, the talking heads and national perception, would still say that the SEC is the almighty conference and nothing else compares. According to the media, Florida St. is unstoppable. Alabama is the greatest. Auburn is in the SEC and therefore more deserving of Ohio because the B1G sucks. Blah, blah, blah...
Would you rather the SEC win the NC for the next 20 years just so Ohio doesn't win it? When will enough be enough? Sooner or later people are going to quit looking for excuses for the B1G and hope their conference starts winning. Why not start now?
If you are looking for somthing to help change your mind, go hang out with an SEC fan for a football season. After that, you'll always cheer for the B1G in bowl games.
Also, didn't it really get your blood boiling when Alabama didn't win their conference but was still able to go to the NC game because the talking heads said they were the best team? Remember 2006 in the B1G? That's the national perception I'm talking about. That's what needs to change.
December 5th, 2013 at 9:37 AM ^
"Even if the same SEC team won the MNC every year, the talking heads and national perception, would still say that the SEC is the almighty conference and nothing else compares."
They also say this because the SEC wins most of the bowl games their teams go to. Unfortunately Big Ten teams are the teams that they usually beat thanks to the match-up deals cut between the bowls and the conferences. The ACC can usually be counted on to lose to the SEC in the Chick Fil-A Bowl, too.
"According to the media, Florida St. is unstoppable. Alabama is the greatest."
Florida State is in the ACC. The SEC was trying to get them to join for a number of years when they were an indiependent (they were independent when they played Michigan during the Bo/Mo years), but they wouldn't do it. When they decided to join the ACC instead, their reputation took kind of a hit as looking for the easy route to the undefeated season, even though they still plaed both Miami and Florida each year. Alabama has won three BCS championships in 4 years and seemingly stocked half of the NFL in the process. Only a fool would argue against those acomplishments.
"Would you rather the SEC win the NC for the next 20 years just so Ohio doesn't win it?"
Obviously, yes. I would rather see ANY team win a national championship over the next 20 years than Ohio State. I'm a Michigan fan. Are you?
"If you are looking for somthing to help change your mind, go hang out with an SEC fan for a football season. After that, you'll always cheer for the B1G in bowl games.
I have lived my entire life in Atlanta, GA...it is the spiritual and financial heart of ESS-EEE-SEE country. The first thing these people do when they get their degrees from UGA, 'Bama, Auburn, Florida, Carolina, Tennessee, or LSU is move to Atlanta for jobs. You are not telling me anything I don't already know significantly better than you. And I do cheer for the B1G in bowl games. I was happy when STAEE beat UGA a couple of years back. But I would no more pull for Ohio Stae or Notre Dame to win a bowl game (and ESPECIALLY a BCS championship bowl game) than I would pull for them to win a game with Michigan. It's the first rule of college football. Pull your team to win, pull for your team's blood rival(s) to lose.
"didn't it really get your blood boiling when Alabama didn't win their conference but was still able to go to the NC game because the talking heads said they were the best team?"
Not for that reason, no. In the regular season that year LSU beat the Pac 10 (12?) champion in Oregon and beat the Big East champion in West Virginia in games that weren't close. They beat Alabama at their place in a close game and crushed the SEC East champion UGA by 30 in Atlanta. They SHOULD have been given the opportunity to play the next champion in line (Oklahoma State), who they likely would have beaten to finish with an unprecedented record of being the national champion that defeated three BCS conference champions on the way to the title, truly an all-time accomplishment considering the way schedules are managed these days. That would have been historic, equal to the NE Patriots going 19-0. Unfortunately for LSU and history it ended the same way it did for the Patriots. Equally unfortunate for everyone other than Alabama fans, the rematch ended up being the "right" decision based on the outcome.
Look, college football has gotten almost as badly screwed up as most pro sports in this country over the last 20 years, and a lot of that IS the SEC's fault...the whole "split the conference and add a championship game" experiment was based on greed and because it worked so well for one conference it just HAD to work that well for all the others. But at the end of the day, it's still about two things: I want my team to win, and I want the teams I hate to lose. And O How I Hate Ohio State (and ND) more than any other school in the country. There is no SEC school that irritates me enough to deviate from that mantra.
December 5th, 2013 at 2:52 PM ^
well my friend...the more BCS titles the SEC wins and the more Ohio State loses to the SEC in that game, the more the B1G will continue to get disrespected.
Like you, I too pull for my team to win, no matter how bad the conference is perceived to be. But if the SEC actually does win 20 in a row (unlikely obviously), and MIchigan happens to have a handful of 11-1 seasons in that span where we feel deserving of being in the top 4...guess what...they will leave the that MIchigan team out because they are in the Big10.
I will always want Ohio to have a great record against other opponents that are not Michigan, not that I won't laugh at them when they are down, but still. The last 10-15 years it has been the opposite of that. They have done fantastic against us and the B1G, but lousy in big games that the media and casual fan (many SEC fans are casual bandwagonners, especially in Lexington KY) will see as your defining moments. OSU is the face of the conference now and they directly affect the outcomes of some of Michigan's seasons, we need them to perform well agianst teams that aren't us if we want real national recognition in the future.
We need to perform too....good god is it getting tougher and tougher to watch Michigan football....now I know how fans of constantly mediocre programs feel.
December 5th, 2013 at 10:22 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 11:55 AM ^
What I'm really hoping for:
OSU wins something like 16-13 in a sloppy game full of penalties and turnovers, preferably on a late defensive touchdown. Auburn thrashes Missouri by multiple scores. SEC bias and reality take over and Auburn jumps Ohio. Sparty drops and is left out of the BCS bowls. OSU loses to Stanford in the Rose Bowl. Auburn gets crushed by FSU on the field. Proof that Jameis Winston is innocent/guilty comes out during the game and after it he is exonerated/handcuffed on the field. If guilty, FSU vacates title leaving no National Champion for this miserable season. The perfect ending.
December 4th, 2013 at 11:56 AM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 12:02 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 12:33 PM ^
You forgot the part about a bitter Sparty team merping their unimpressive bowl game against Duke or Baylor.
December 4th, 2013 at 11:59 AM ^
GO GREEN!!!
December 4th, 2013 at 12:00 PM ^
My two rooting priorities are:
1. State of Michigan schools over non-state of Michigan schools.
2. Conference schools over non-conference schools.
Regarding #1, go Sparty on Saturday.
Regarding #2, there are times when a rule must be broken. I did root for the Nuts in the national title game against Miami under the mistaken assumption that only one group of criminals was taking the field. If OSU makes it to the title game this year, I won't get fooled again. To hell with those bird-flipping, mouth-breathing, florid-faced, gap-toothed morons. I would even root for the South Bend Pullets before I would Ohio.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:00 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 12:00 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 12:01 PM ^
I hate Sparty, but...
BEAT OHIO.
It's the only answer.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:07 PM ^
I didn't read the entire thread, so this has probably been mentioned already, but I'd rather see OSU win.
1. I hate MSU. They lose to OSU.
2. I hate the SEC, so they get left out of the NCG with an OSU win.
3. I hate OSU. They would lose to FSU in the NCG.
Perfect storm - MSU loss, no SEC in NCG, OSU loss. Lolz for all.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:13 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 7:33 PM ^
I don't think that OSU has the ability to beat MSU that bad. But, to that point, who cares if Alabama plays in the Rose Bowl??
December 4th, 2013 at 12:08 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 12:09 PM ^
Is it too much to ask for a well-played, entertaining game in which one of them is guaranteed to lose?
December 4th, 2013 at 12:10 PM ^
I have figured out what would be best for me, because really that's all that matters, right...? Right?
In my fantasy scenario, osu barely beats Sparty because Sparty does something stupid like fumble on their way to the winning touchdown, miss a bunny of a FG to win, or maybe a trick play just gets blown up and some fat buckeye lumbers it home to win by a couple. Auburn gets their ass handed to them by Mizzou, and Mizzou, not AU, jumps osu to get into the title game, but i really don't care what SEC team that was either 0-8 or 2-6 last year wins (go Hogs in '14!) as long as osu and Urbs get no NC (although if Michigam can rack up 600 yards who knows what Famous Jameis will do to them - I believe they will get the Ned Beatty in Deliverance treatment, squealing all the way home). osu then goes to the Rose Bowl and gets handled by whomever it is thats out there, really don't give a rat's ass on this one either. Sparty again gets no Rose Bowl and loses by a ton to a pissed-off-for-no-NC-game-SEC team. They haven't been to one since my (first) junior year in Ann Arbor in 1987. That's 26 years if you're scoring at home... or if you're alone. Where have you gone Lorenzo White...?
My personal schadenfreude meter will blow a gasket, but I have plenty of replacement parts.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:12 PM ^
...and won't bother to watch it.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:15 PM ^
I'd like to see a B1G team win the MNC and end the SEC streak. I think they can beat Florida State. So go Bucks.
I hope that Spary still gets a Rose Bowl bid.
We of course will enjoy the Whatever Bowl.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:15 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 12:28 PM ^
I'm for whatever needs to happen to keep MSU out of the Rose Bowl.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:36 PM ^
Probably mean Ohio getting into the Rose Bowl which means an SEC Champion Auburn leaping them in the BCS poll this Sunday.
C'mon karma, keep me a believer in your infinite cosmic justice.
December 4th, 2013 at 1:01 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 12:29 PM ^
I'd rather talk about OT topics than this.
F**k you, 2013. So hard.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:40 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 12:35 PM ^
-OSU will win next week, and so will FSU.
-The title game is set with FSU vs. OSU.
-Winston is arrested shortly thereafter.
-OSU gets the luxury of playing against a 3rd string QB and wins a national title.
That sort of thing would happen, because the universe seems to love giving Michigan the middle finger these days...
December 4th, 2013 at 12:38 PM ^
December 4th, 2013 at 12:44 PM ^
OSU, just so I can listen to The Ticket without hearing Mike Valenti tell us how God created MSU with his own hands.
Maybe a black hole swallows both teams?