So...the Orange Bowl, huh?

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So Michigan ain't making the playoff.  How do we feel about playing Florida State in the Orange Bowl?  Or Clemson on the off chance they lose to Va. Tech?

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Mr. Yost

December 3rd, 2016 at 4:38 PM ^

No it doesn't.

Unless you're on the committee and know something we all don't.

Not saying it's going to happen, but, LOL...everyone is speaking so matter of fact in this thread without no fact behind the statement.

At least base your statement off of something that's been said or that's happened. Otherwise you're just another person with another opinion. Which is fine...I share plenty of opinions. But to say it so matter of fact is silly.

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SeattleWolverine

December 3rd, 2016 at 6:23 PM ^

So 10-2 WI beats 10-2 #7 PSU by whatever score. Probably not that much because their offense is pretty meh. And 11-1 UW beats 10-2 #8 CO by 31. Both have conference championships now. Both have added wins over 10-3 teams. And now WI will pass UW based on what?

 

You're right, it's just an opinion w/ zero inside knowledge. Well, except that since the committee publishes their rankings weekly, we already know that they had UW ahead of WI.  The other fact is that UW just killed CO on national TV. So my argument is premised on the facts that UW was ranked ahead of both PSU/WI coming into this weekend and posted a dominating win. UW has 1 loss and the B1G CCG winner will have 2 losses. UW was ahead already in the rankings and had a blowout win. Explain what WI can do to pass them? What's the support for your opinion? Win by 70 is about the only plausible reason you can come up with for WI jumping UW and their offensive performance year to date indicates that's not happening. You act like there is no prior context or knowledge of how the committee feels when comparing these two teams but last weeks rankings tell you exactly that. UW was 4. WI was 6. 

 

Ummm...is there any way we can bet on this? Because I would love to take my chances on my opinion vs yours.

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Cali's Goin' Blue

December 3rd, 2016 at 6:17 AM ^

Ya, nothing other than the fact that we lose every single starter on the best D-line in college football, our best linebacker, our entire defensive backfield, top two wide recievers, starting running back, and 3 offensive lineman who all made All-B1G teams. But that doesn't really impact next year, right? But in today's America facts don't matter apparently. Thanks for joining the blog Mr. Trump

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Mr. Yost

December 3rd, 2016 at 9:21 AM ^

It can be done but that is stupid thinking. It's 2 years from now the team will be completely different.

We beat Alabama by 1ft in 2000...nothing says we can't do it again.

I don't get your logic. It would only make sense if you're taking the same team and playing the exact same team.

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huntmich

December 3rd, 2016 at 5:34 AM ^

Next year we have an established QB, half of the most dominant D-Line in recent memory, a LB core, Jeremy Clark's sixth year, most of the RBs, Grant Perry, Eddie McDoom, Ty Wheatley, Ian Bunting, etc. etc. etc. and we get MSU and OSU at home.  I just don't get people calling 2017 a rebuilding year.

 

Yes, we could have won a natty this year.  Yes, we can do it next year too.

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Cali's Goin' Blue

December 3rd, 2016 at 6:23 AM ^

"half of the most dominant d-line in recent memory"- We lose Glasgow, Taco, Wormley, Godin, and possibly Hurst, leaving Gary and Winovich, the two weakest parts of a 7 man DL rotation. I wouldn't call that close to half.Even with Hurst we don't return a single starter. That is not "half"

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James Burrill Angell

December 3rd, 2016 at 7:53 AM ^

You can't lose that many seniors/All Big Ten/All Americans and expect to reload that easily with sophomores and true freshmen, many of whom didn't see that many snaps. It's not realistic. Inevitably someone will say "Ohio State just did". While they replaced a lot of players (a) it wasn't as many as we have to replace and (b) their recruiting has been better and for more consecutive years. They're fielding wave after wave of high four and five stars while he have some. We'll find out quickly how good we are next year against a solid Florida team.

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SeattleWolverine

December 3rd, 2016 at 3:21 PM ^

LOL. Just....lol. We're losing guys like Lewis, Charlton, Wormley, Butt, Chesson, Darboh, Smith, Glasgow. Mags, Braden, Kalis, Gedeon, Stribling, Thomas, D. Hill and our do everything kicker. And you're talking about we'll be fine because we get a nickel corner back if the NCAA grants a 6th year and Ian Bunting who had 6 yards of receiving on the season? Our leading returning receiver by yardage is our FB who averaged 9 yards/game. I mean, I like McDoom and Crawford a lot but they also each had fewer receptions than our backup FB Henry Poggi on the year. These guys are going to need seasoning and it will take time to replace the current group. On defense, our entire starting secondary and a significant chuck of our badass DL rotation is gone. We lose 9 starters.

 

There is young talent but old experienced proven talent > young unknown talent in the short term. 2017 may be a harsh reality for this who think the upward trend is going to continue. Next year will almost certainly be a step backwards. 

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PutInPeters18

December 3rd, 2016 at 12:42 AM ^

Considering that two years ago we were 5-7 and the future under Hoke looked bleak, I'm definitely encouraged by the progress UM has made. They lost to two solid squads on the road this year and put themselves in contention as one of the best teams in college football. While missing the playoffs would be disappointing, im optimistic that this team can pull out another curb stomping Bowl performance like they did last year, jumpstarting them towards a great recruiting finish and a great season next year

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SeattleWolverine

December 3rd, 2016 at 12:28 AM ^

Well teams #3 and #6 will have lost in this scenario so they're really only jumping us. They'll be adding a win equivalent to our current best win over WI, a conference championship, have an extra 11th win that we lack and look good (presumably) on national TV. And while getting in over a team that they lost to head to head looks problematic, leaving out a team that won the conference for one that finished 3rd in its division is an even less appealing complication. So yeah, pretty good chance they jump us. 

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I Like Burgers

December 3rd, 2016 at 12:47 AM ^

Yup. Plus in the PSU scenario, they'll have won 9 straight including wins over a playoff team in OSU and a win over Wisconsin (which is much better than anything Michigan did over that stretch). On top of that, they beat Iowa 41-14 and played Michigan severely depleted on defense. That makes the Michigan game pretty easy to dismiss for the committee, I think.



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Mr. Yost

December 3rd, 2016 at 12:10 PM ^

Jumping #7 to #4 would be if everyone won or was off.

You don't jump someone ahead of you when they lose...they fall below you.

Clemson and Wisconsin will fall below Michigan and PSU.

...so it's just a matter of PSU jumping Michigan, who doesn't play today. That would be #5 virtually jumping/swapping with #4 Michigan.

That's completely different than what OSU did in 2014. They JUMPED Baylor and TCU because neither team played the extra game, both won their final game. OSU leapfrogged them. 

If PSU wasn't playing and Wisconsin lost, PSU would still move up. Same logic, that's not jumping them.

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