Shout-out To The Refs On Overturning That Scoop And Score
December 29th, 2019 at 12:10 AM ^
For sure - that ref probably flies a Clemson flag in his basement. And I am happy about that!
December 29th, 2019 at 2:21 AM ^
No anti-Buckeye bias here, that was an incomplete pass 100% without a doubt. There are countless examples of the exact same thing to point to. I was surprised they didn't blow it dead real time.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:01 PM ^
100% anti-Buckeye bias here, but that was absolutely a catch and fumble. How long does he need to hold onto the ball for it to be a catch???
Anyway, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of fellows!
December 29th, 2019 at 1:48 PM ^
So at some point (4steps in) the ball comes loose, so not a catch because he fumbled?. The real world disagrees.
Glad OSU got a little jobbed and immediately melted down about it. Happiness.
December 29th, 2019 at 2:50 PM ^
Yup. Takes 3 steps with the ball secured in his hands, tries to turn upfield and finally gets the ball knocked out. Catch, fumble. If it had been called incomplete on the field, I would have been surprised for the call to stand, but for it to get called a fumble and then reversed is insane.
My eyes went wide and I cackled when the overturned call was announced.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:11 AM ^
Whatever. We win by 21 in 16 with fair refs.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:14 AM ^
Absolutely, but let's celebrate this OSU loss while it's fresh
December 29th, 2019 at 12:30 AM ^
2016 game obsession! So many fulfilling lives here.
December 29th, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^
An OSU fan acting like a douche on a Michigan blog after a heartbreaking loss. You must be super fulfilled right now. Well done on livin' your best life buddy.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:32 AM ^
Yes. That's why this is funny.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:11 AM ^
Herbie did his damndest to convince us it was a catch and fumble.
Dude sounds he wants to cry giving his final thoughts on this game.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:11 AM ^
Yep - no Big Ten refs to give it to OSU
December 29th, 2019 at 7:45 AM ^
No michigan QB to throw two picks and fumble the snap on the 2.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:12 AM ^
That was a horrible call which probably decided the game. The targeting call was legit, but mostly a fluke.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:14 AM ^
Sweeney and Day are both really good coaches.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:15 AM ^
Why are you here, Buckeye apologist?
December 29th, 2019 at 8:14 AM ^
dear dan, judging by your posts here you might consider changing your name to 'columbus carl'
December 29th, 2019 at 12:12 AM ^
The fact that Herbstreit thought it was a fumble means nothing. In real time he had the ball for a fraction of a second. If that play happens in the end zone, it probably wouldn't be ruled a touchdown. Therefore it isn't a fumble either--it's incomplete.
It COULD have been ruled a fumble, but I don't think calling it incomplete was ridiculous.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:15 AM ^
So calls are overturned based on feelings? The receiver took 3 steps and shifted the ball. No way the call on the field should have been overturned.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:21 AM ^
I feel you should go fuck yourself with some of Zach Smith’s equipment.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:23 AM ^
If they rule it a catch and he doesn't fumble, they rule forward progress 4 yards up-field.
I'm not sure if that's actually reviewable, but I think the correct call was made in the end. You can't fumble after forward progress is stopped.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:28 AM ^
Early 90s O$U DT Dan Wilkinson, is that you?
December 29th, 2019 at 12:19 AM ^
This is exactly right, great summation, so sick of listening to Chris Fowler sucking Herbstreit's cock regarding online st. U
December 29th, 2019 at 12:14 AM ^
Fuck Ohio state!! I’m so happy
December 29th, 2019 at 12:17 AM ^
Live, it clearly looked incomplete. On replay it was closer, but I think the right call, because it looked like "the process" was ongoing when it came out.
Of course Herbie thought otherwise because he's a pathetic homer.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:18 AM ^
The problem is that they play it in slo-mo and literally any contact with the hands around the ball will look like a catch.
Play that full speed and it’s beyond obvious that it wasn’t a catch.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:19 AM ^
It's interesting, it looked like 3 steps, but happened real fast, and no football move.
In the end tho, forward progress was essentially stopped on the catch, so I don't think it can be a fumble.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:20 AM ^
Ryan Day sucks. His days are numbered.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:21 AM ^
Targeting call prevented the game from being a Buckeye blowout. It was probably a good call, given the rules as they are. But quite an impact for a player making a good defensive play that ends up helmet to helmet mostly by chance. Athletes competing at full speed cannot be expected to know where the exact point of contact will be.
Ohio State was the better team, but the Gods allow fluke outcomes.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:24 AM ^
Points determine who’s the better team.. take you Scott Frost we out hit them shit somewhere else... if you commit a penalty it should be enforced regardless of the impact.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:27 AM ^
Down, down Ohio State! Well deserved!
The more it hurts their wretched fan base, the better. Let it burn!!
December 29th, 2019 at 1:00 AM ^
Dan, head over to 11W, I'm sure there's tons of folks who'll agree with you.
December 29th, 2019 at 6:51 AM ^
He obviously lead with the crown of his helmet. You're supposed to see what you hit. If he does that, then it doesn't matter that he can't know the point of contact.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:21 AM ^
Haha the irony about eleven warriors being so salty about the refs.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:22 AM ^
Kirk Herbstreit is a homer.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:27 AM ^
You do realize that Herbstreit's twin sons are freshmen at Clemson right? His wife, a former OSU cheerleader, wore a Clemson jersey to the game to support their kids. I'm sure he bleeds Scarlet and Gray as a former OSU captain, but I think his kids being on the Clemson team take priority.
https://clemsontigers.com/sports/football/roster/jake-herbstreit/
https://clemsontigers.com/sports/football/roster/tye-herbstreit/
December 29th, 2019 at 12:37 AM ^
Bruh you had all those links on standby?...for what?
December 29th, 2019 at 12:38 AM ^
Also you realize you sound like a condescending asshole.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:24 PM ^
I heard the story earlier, and I found the links on this crazy new site called "Google."
December 29th, 2019 at 12:26 AM ^
3-4 steps with possession. Plainly a catch. And no way you can say 100% sure wrong call. Gifted game.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:29 AM ^
Whatever. The important thing is that the Hideous Minions of Evil have been turned back. Mordor has been defeated! Let all people of good conscience rejoice!!!
December 29th, 2019 at 12:30 AM ^
Yup.
The last Clemson drive was amazing however.
Still, Ohio State was the better team, but Clemson got break after break from the officiating.
Day made the call of the day on that 4th and 1, but Dabo Sweeney is a great coach in his own right.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:35 AM ^
Dan:. Clemson was the better team, that's why they won.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:41 AM ^
Hard to say that Clemson outplayed OSU on the targeting call. OSU won the play, but luck turned the play, and the game, around.
Still, it was close enough that a couple of officiating decisions could change the outcome. Great coaching on both sides.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:42 AM ^
Let's see *checks notes* Clemson going to championship game but OSU the better team. Okay.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:33 AM ^
You're really hanging out here now?
December 29th, 2019 at 12:37 AM ^
3 steps backwards with defender contact is never a fumble, even on a running play.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:45 AM ^
I don't like the rule, but that was a correct call. He never completed the third step of a catch by making some sort of move (not the exact wording of the rule but close enough). And he couldn't do that because he never fully controlled the ball. And, per the rule, there isn't a catch if any of this is in doubt.
Again, I don't like the rule. But that was a correct overturn.
December 29th, 2019 at 1:01 AM ^
In case of a close call, they should stick with the ruling on the field. But it was close enough to go either way.
December 29th, 2019 at 1:35 AM ^
It was a close call if you were pulling for OSU. As it happened, it looked like no catch. The rules expert went against Kirk and Fowler and said no catch. He seemed to be right on with his analysis when they called on him.