Semi-OT - Michigan getting close to 1,000 wins
It's probably a season or two too soon for this post, but Michigan football is getting close to 1,000 all-time program wins. By my calculation, they now have 987 wins (assuming that WikiPage is correct).
It is overwhelmingly likely that it will be the first college football program to reach that milestone, and it will probably happen early in the 2024 season (assuming no pandemic), though it could happen in 2023 if we repeat this past season's success.
My question is...where would this milestone rank among historical sports milestones? I assume the program will celebrate it, but will be a big deal in the national media?
Just some thoughts on an otherwise slow news day (SIGN YOUR DAMN EXTENSION JIM!).
January 13th, 2022 at 11:29 AM ^
We could do it in the 2022 season, but it shouldn't be any longer than the 2023 season.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:32 AM ^
Can you imagine this board if it took us 3 seasons to get 13 more wins?
January 13th, 2022 at 11:56 AM ^
I'm bad at math apparently.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:30 AM ^
They are 13 wins away… why would it happen in the 2024 season and not guaranteed to happen in the 2023 season?
edit: beat by seconds, but it is the correct point.
January 13th, 2022 at 12:00 PM ^
I somehow subtracted 987 from 1000 and got 23.
As a lawyer, I know there's a stereotype about being bad at math....but woof!
January 13th, 2022 at 12:31 PM ^
Lawyers rounding up (way up) with billable hours is par for the course - we understand your habits
January 13th, 2022 at 1:40 PM ^
He must work for the law firm of Dewey Cheatham & Howe
January 13th, 2022 at 1:04 PM ^
In law school we used to joke that if we could count we'd be in med school. Then again, all the numbers in the world add up to nothing.
January 13th, 2022 at 1:57 PM ^
I thought the stereotype was about lawyers being bad (full stop)
January 13th, 2022 at 3:59 PM ^
I somehow subtracted 987 from 1000 and got 23.
Well there is your problem, you did your math wrong. To get the correct answer, you will first need to subtract 1000 from 987, divide the square root of its polynomial and group the base numbers into semantic form to get the S set. The S will be a finite set, on which a finite group G acts. Next, let V be the corresponding permutation representation of G, which has a basis of {es}s∈S , and g ∈G acts by g ·es = eg·s). You will need to show that the multiplicity in V of the trivial representation U (i.e. the number of copies of U appearing in the decomposition of V) is equal to the number of orbits of the G-action on S. In particular, if the action of G on S is transitive, then we can write V = U ⊕V ′, where V ′ does not contain U as a subrepresentation. This can be done either by calculating H(χU , χV ) and using Burnside’s lemma, or directly by finding the invariant subspace V G). Now, suppose that G acts transitively on S, and |S|≥2. We say that the action is doubly transitive if for every s1, s2, s′ 1, s′ 2 ∈S with s1 6= s2 and s′1 6= s′ 2, there exists g ∈G such that s′ 1 = g ·s1 and s′
2 = g ·s2. First check that this is equivalent to the statement that the action of G on S ×S has exactly two orbits; then show that the representation V ′ considered in part (a) is irreducible if and only if the action of G on S is doubly transitive. Hint: first show that the permutation representation for the action of G on S ×S is V ⊗V , and show that H(χU , χV ⊗V ) = H(χV , χV ).
If you had done all of this correctly, the answer would be clear. 13.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:31 AM ^
Which unfortunate Big Ten West school will have to witness the history in Indianapolis next year?
January 13th, 2022 at 11:34 AM ^
Is it Northwesterns turn again? Or Wisconsin? I know they're on a rotation over there.
January 13th, 2022 at 1:42 PM ^
Even year, so Northwestern should be good again.
Last 4 seasons:
- 2018: 1st in the West
- 2019: 7th in the West
- 2020: 1st in the West
- 2021: 6th in the West
- 2022: ?? in the West
January 13th, 2022 at 11:31 AM ^
I suck at math, but they are only 13 wins away. I would sure hope they can reach 1,000 total wins by 2023 and not 2024.
January 13th, 2022 at 12:58 PM ^
Made a comment related to 1000 wins next year and then discovered M is at 976 (not 987). That's two seasons ahead of us. Maybe January 2024!!?? (Will JJ/Cade be with us for two years?)
January 13th, 2022 at 11:33 AM ^
It'll happen next year
If it doesn't I will smoke an ounce to this
Gs up hoes down
While you motherfuckers bounce to this
Rolling down the street winning 1000
Games cuz we're the best
Hell yeah
With my mind on the Victors and the Victors on my mind
Sorry
January 13th, 2022 at 11:38 AM ^
This is not in any way OT.
Important to get there first. Long-term it's important to stay upper-echelon competitive to ward off challenges from places like Bama. They won't win like this forever, but they're going on 12 years of this surge and it could be another 5-10 before they hit a downturn.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:45 AM ^
And Rutgers is only 345 wins away from 1,000. It is possible they will get there by 3023 (assuming no pandemic).
January 13th, 2022 at 11:48 AM ^
I think it would be a very big deal if it happened in 2023. Would be hard to write off 25 wins in two seasons as a team living in it’s past. Would also have to occur in a very big game. Either our second straight big ten championship, our first Win in a CFB semifinal or a championship win. Coupling that with our 1000th win would get tons of hype, 2023 much less so, because it would either mean a win against a pretty lame team or that 2022 was a big disappointment.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:51 AM ^
Probably means we'll get it against a non-conference opponent in 2023.
Wish we could have had the opportunity to do it against someone meaningful.
January 13th, 2022 at 2:23 PM ^
Maybe the 2024 non-conference season. We have 24 wins to go. But hopefully we can wrap this up before then.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:53 AM ^
Pretty sure that count is wrong. The win over OSU was win #975, so we're at 976. Which means that we could get to #1000 in two seasons. 12 wins feels possible next year (sum 988), setting up a scenario where we get win #1000 at home over OSU to complete a 12-0 season in 2023. Let's hope!
January 13th, 2022 at 12:57 PM ^
^^^^^^^^^^
This. I get 976 from several sources. Including the school website archive. #1,000 in AA on Nov. 25, 2023 would be poetry.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:55 AM ^
We are at 976 wins.
January 13th, 2022 at 11:58 AM ^
As of September 6, 2021. That was after our first win of the season.
EDIT: Wiki is mean.
January 13th, 2022 at 12:19 PM ^
No, Iowa was the 976th win. See: https://stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1869&end=2021&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Win+Pct
January 13th, 2022 at 12:27 PM ^
Well then fuck Wikipedia.
January 13th, 2022 at 1:18 PM ^
Your link (the Wikipedia page), shows 976. Where are you getting 987?
January 13th, 2022 at 1:28 PM ^
It says on there that the numbers are current as of September 6th, 2021. We've had 11 wins since then.
January 13th, 2022 at 1:37 PM ^
976 wins is correct. Whoever updated the Wikipedia article with our win total just forgot to update the "September 6" line also.
January 13th, 2022 at 12:33 PM ^
mgoblue.com's pregame notes for the orange bowl had us at 976-351-36
https://mgoblue.com/documents/2021/12/21/20211221_fbl_notes_georgia_orangebowl.pdf
(page 2, top right)
January 13th, 2022 at 11:56 AM ^
Going to get it when they win the B1G Championship next year, sitting at 13-0 and heading to the CFP again. Let's go!
January 13th, 2022 at 12:00 PM ^
I'll give you one guess who has the most all-time program losses.
January 13th, 2022 at 12:05 PM ^
Ha! 655 wins and 673 losses. Any chance they'll get to 1,000 wins before 1,000 losses?
January 13th, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^
We have won 87 games since the 2012 MSU game? Not bad for a decade that had 2 of the worst seasons in modern memory.
January 13th, 2022 at 12:07 PM ^
Well, we'll just have to make it #1,000 in Indy when we complete our 13-0 Big Ten run.
January 13th, 2022 at 12:22 PM ^
As others have pointed out, we have 976 wins. 2012 MSU was #900. Brady Hoke had 15 more after that (3 in '12, 7 in '13, 5 in '14). Harbaugh's win totals were: 10, 10, 8, 10, 9, 2, 12. Total: 976.
January 13th, 2022 at 12:24 PM ^
As noted, the number to get to 1000 is a little more than OP says. After our 2-win season last year, I was very concerned that Bama or OSU would pass us. After the massive turnaround this year, I feel pretty confident that we'll get their first.
I am looking at the non-conference 2024 schedule to land the tickets.
January 13th, 2022 at 12:56 PM ^
Assuming the 976 number, it’d likely hit early in the 2024 season. Right now that’s Texas, open dates, and an unsettled big ten schedule. Poor performance could push it to 2025.
With a couple very good years, could get there by the 2023/2024 bowl game.
January 13th, 2022 at 1:14 PM ^
Making me feel old. I was there for the 900th. IIRC it was the 2008 Wisconsin comeback
edit: nevermind- apparently that game was the 500th game in the Big House
January 13th, 2022 at 1:47 PM ^
This is a big damn deal. And we will have this title for a while before anybody else catches up to 1,000.
I remember when Yale was ahead of us in all time wins (somewhere around the 800 win mark) and was kind of in awe that they had the most wins in college football.
January 13th, 2022 at 2:20 PM ^
And we will have this title for a while before anybody else catches up to 1,000.
"A while" likely being 3 to 4 seasons until Alabama and Ohio State get to 1000.
January 13th, 2022 at 2:21 PM ^
I don’t think a post about the Michigan football program is in any sense “semi-OT.”
January 13th, 2022 at 2:57 PM ^
Seems to me that win number 1000 will either be in the 2022 Big Ten Championship or a 2022 CFP Semifinal
Edit: This is if the 987 number is correct.
January 13th, 2022 at 4:57 PM ^
It isn't. Whoever updated the Wikipedia page forgot to change the date.
January 13th, 2022 at 6:34 PM ^
I was going to say it would be another great recruiting tool ,but does it even matter. Cash rules everything thing around me.