mGrowOld

May 30th, 2018 at 3:08 PM ^

How many posts before somebody says something like "surely THIS must be the straw that broke the camel's back and forces Dantonio/Izzo to resign."

 

BigBlue02

May 30th, 2018 at 3:10 PM ^

I was going to ask the over/under on you coming in here to tell us all how correct you were that nothing will happen to Izzo/Dantonio. Apparently 2 was the correct answer

Ghost of Fritz…

May 30th, 2018 at 3:16 PM ^

a guy in Izzo's spot should take an NBA job.  Sort of the Pete Carroll move when the facts came out at USC.

In the alternative, even if Izzo were sure that his days are numbered (and I doubt they are numbered,  but if they were...), just deny and refuse to resign in order to negotiate a better exit package payoff. 

But with Engler running the show, both Izzo and Dantonia are not going anywhere.

ijohnb

May 30th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^

THIS must be the straw that breaks the camel's back and forces Dantonio/Izzo to resign.

Ty Butterfield

May 30th, 2018 at 3:24 PM ^

I am sure Engler still has connections in DC and will make sure any questions will only be about Nassar and not football, basketball, or the overall rape culture of the entire athletic department.

jbrandimore

May 30th, 2018 at 3:26 PM ^

My feeling was that it might have been a mistake to settle the case against MSU out of court before this hearing at the US Senate.

Here is why. 

Let's say Simon asserts her right to not answer questions at the Senate hearing by asserting her 5th amendment rights.

Unless I'm mistaken, you can't assert 5th amendment rights to get out of civil suits.

Then MSU would have been faced with a tough dilemma. Perhaps pay even more to their victims - in part to keep Simon off the stand in a civil trial to disclose what she really knows about the cesspool of depravity she presided over up at MSU, or stick to their guns maybe not knowing what she would say under oath - or not knowing whether she would come off as the shittiest witness ever.

What say you legal eagles? Was that settlement premature?

Dablue1

May 30th, 2018 at 4:29 PM ^

You can assert 5th amendment rights to refuse to answer questions in a civil suit if there’s a realistic threat of potential prosecution. But the jury can draw negative inferences from your silence. E.g., if you invoke the 5th when asked whether you hold a certain bank account, the jury can infer that you do hold that account. I can’t armchair QB to say whether it’s a good settlement, but a good lawyer would consider such potentialities in deciding whether to settle.

Section 1.8

May 30th, 2018 at 5:22 PM ^

It is paywalled for me because I reached my limit of free NYT clicks.

So I read the story in the Detroit News.  They quoted Simon's attorney, the very experiened, respected and likeable Mickey Morganroth.

It's a Senate subpoena!  I'm tempted to say, "It's not a real subpoena," but that's not quite right.  Anyway, knowing Mickey, it takes a bit to get him pissed off enough to lash out at the process in this way.  It does sound to me like Thune's committee jerked everybody around on the scheduling.  And that the whole thing is for show.

Let's all make a deal, shall we?  Let's all watch that hearing on C-SPAN when it happens.  And let's see if any single new shred of information is developed, that wasn't already known, and which could not have been developed (and done better) by having four committee staff attorneys fly into Detroit Metro and ask her questions in a conference room with a court reporter and then go back to Washington the same day.

I'm betting that there will be nothing new, and that the day will be built around a handful of Senators making speeches for television.

 

Section 1.8

June 6th, 2018 at 10:59 AM ^

Replying to myself, to bump this thread.  Just as I expected, the purpose of the subpoena was to drag Simon (along with the former head of USA Gymnastics) in front of tv cameras, to allow members of the Senate to scold them.  Virtually no new information was developed yesterday.  In terms of information, it would probably have been better to do as I suggested and send a team of Senate committee lawyers to Traverse City and put Simon through a six-hour cross-examination, instead of the television stunt.  (A stunt in which the USA Gymnastics guy did assert his Fifth Amendment rights and declined to answer questions, as was speculated elsewhere in this thread.  Simon did not make any Fifth Amendment plea.)

So Simon went to Washington, apologized (again) and (again) stated that Nassar was a clever and deceptive physician who traded on his good reputation and credentials (that part I have never actually understood; what made Nassar such a prized doctor?) to prey on his victims.  She did not admit personal liability, and as an ex-President of the university, she was completely unqualified to testify as to how the matter would be resolved and what the university would do going forward.

But she did testify.  She did answer the questions, such as they were.  The subpoena kerfuffle was much ado about nothing, and Mickey Morganroth was right, in questioning what the big deal was.  

goblue4321

May 30th, 2018 at 5:51 PM ^

i can not believe what an asshole simon's attorney is, saying how simon is on vacation and how dare they ask her to take time out of her schedule to come to court!?! WTF! schedule? she has no job lol, oh and the money they already lost from having to reschedule the last one, the lady made way to much at state anyway i think she will be ok.....unreal

lilpenny1316

May 30th, 2018 at 7:02 PM ^

I'm pretty sure I've read that she's still getting paid by MSU to hold some position.

Either way, I don't feel sorry for rich people who have to cancel their travel plans, especially when it relates to testifying about how you went to sleep while a monster was preying on innocent girls.

So it makes sense that an @sshole would hire an @sshole lawyer to represent them.

MaizeMN

May 30th, 2018 at 7:17 PM ^

That's my hometown and has a very large and active alumni base. I wouldn't be surprised if half of the population turned her whereabouts over to authorities, while the other half was sharpening pitchforks and lighting torches.