Saban: Bryce Young(QB) Approaching A Million in NIL Deals
Is he complaining or recruiting?
It’s the CFB equivalent of the humble brag.
It' Saban...both.
Or lying.
Good for Bryce. Lets get JJ over 2!
I expected this.
Guess where elite QBs will want to play? Schools/programs where they can throw for 4,000+ yards and 40+ TDs in route to being a Heisman Finalist and participate in the playoffs.
Meanwhile, Michigan has never had a QB throw for 3,000+ yards AND 30+ TDs in the same season. In fact, no Michigan QB has EVER thrown for more than Grbac and Henne with 25 TDs. That's freaking embarrassing in an era where QBs at Oklahoma or Southern Cal think it's their damn birthright to throw 30+ TDs in a season. That already puts up behind the competition.
Trivia: Who's the last Michigan QB to be a Heisman Finalist.
I'm still shocked that McCarthy chose us. If we don't do well with him, then that's an indictment on Harbaugh's QB coaching/development at Michigan.
You sound mad.
As he should.
dude it's ........ it's just a game.
a game you aren't even playing.
why would anyone get mad? that's just stupid.
As long as both teams have fun, what else matters?
Does everyone get a trophy?
If I can get enjoyment out of something I am passionate about, I can also get mad about it. I'm not saying that I let my anger get out of control, but I do feel mad when the team is bad.
Trivia Answer - Harbaugh 1986
Didn’t Denard get invited to the ceremony? Or was he top 6? I know everyone made fun of the September Heisman and then he got some votes
Yep, Denard was sixth with 84 votes. The top four had between 2263 (Cam Newton) and 635, but sixth place is better than most of his detractors would have you remember.
Love him or hate him, I would have loved to see where he would have landed working in Rodriguez’s offense. I still don’t think he beats Cam, but I bet Denard would have received enough votes to make the trip to New York City.
Of course Bryce is getting 1 mil. Contender every year and fan enthusiasm is sky high.
Winning cures most everything. If Michigan becomes a contender year in year out, JJ McCarthy would set NIL records every year with our alumni base.
This is actually terrible news for anyone that isn't Bryce Young. Here we go while 2-3 players make huge money, the rest of the team makes little, resentments are formed, and this unequal treatment is the foundation of breaking team harmony. As soon as Young has a bad couple games, the wolves start worse than we have ever seen directed at a college player before, because now people feel they can criticize them exactly like they criticize pros. You think criticizing college athletes was bad before? Just wait.
I'm for players making what they can make-that doesn't mean that it's good for the game we grew up watching. Because it is not.
Actually disagree. Of course resentment is there. It's always there. But breaking team harmony to the point of what, mutiny? Of course not.
Guys younger than freshman are already being paid overseas and I don't see them complaining about it. Nor their teams breaking apart from disharmony.
And players are criticized over everything anyway. Especially if you're a bama qb. Any additional criticizm because they making a few bucks won't make a difference.
Guys overseas are getting paid on teams where everyone is getting paid. That's not the case, here.
Players get free room and board, an education, and a monthly stipend already.
Everyone will earn SOMETHING, whether its NCAA football likeness, a customizable jersey on Mden, Youtube/Instagram/TikTok ad revenue, standard autograph/card deals, 50 bucks for a customized birthday congrats, and on and on and on.
A million dollars isn't "a few bucks". Like it or not, people who shell out money to these players will expect a return on their investment, whether that's warranted or not.
This is a bizarre take. The star players have literally always reaped outsized rewards. You think NIL money is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back? The star quarterback gets nonstop Big Man On Campus treatment, all the hot chicks on campus, automatic line skipping at every party and bar, no cover, free drinks everywhere, money thrown at him at post-game events by wealthy alumni, face on the front page of ESPN, mocked in the NFL Draft, future is golden, and much more, and it's all fine and dandy, but if he starts publicly earning NIL money the left tackle is suddenly going to start missing blocks to get his head taken off out of envy?
"now people feel they can criticize them exactly like they criticize pros"
Why should I believe people criticize pro players more than college players? I'm skeptical that's actually the case.
But but but, they get a scholarship
Which means nothing now so why not offer them to people who actually need them? A guy who's going to make a million bucks surely doesn't.
For 99.99% of college athletes, scholarships make a huge difference. There's going to be a difficult adjustment period here.
NIL will be the end of college football as we know it. This will crush the small schools, encourage even more recruits to go to the power 5 conferences to increase their exposure and NIL money. If we thought recruiting practices were unequal before, hold my beer.
I think it will cause some discomfort, but already recruits thought capable of playing at a power-five level will accept those scholarships. It's not like Alabama is suddenly going to carry 500 players, all millionaires.
There will be more upheaval at the top level. Pressure to form a football super-conference, separate from other sports. And that could actually be a great change in the long run because lack of schedule parity is a huge problem in college football.
I'm more worried about the transition than the future. Let's not mistake the death of the NCAA and its hypocritical rule sets for the death of the sport. The band-aid has been torn off, now healing can begin.
Small schools have been getting crushed, for years, that's why they are called small schools. The transfer portal will do more damage to small schools than NIL will ever.
I agree but simply because it won't be an amateur sport anymore. And I think about 20 year olds getting $1 mil and that seems like a bad combo. Fortunately, neither of my kids is in that position so I don't have to worry about it. But think about all the "grown up" players who get the windfall of a huge paycheck and blow it all.
CFB hasn't been an amateur sport for a long, long time. The pay has just been under the table and technically "illegal".
Also, is anyone else tired of this paternalistic bullshit - "And I think about 20 year olds getting $1 mil and that seems like a bad combo." There's 20 year olds making millions in tons of other avenues - music/tv/entertainment, other sports like soccer, social media platforms, etc. Weird you think you're fortunate your kids aren't in the position to make millions. That's just... bizarre.
No, it's not bizarre at all. I'd want my kids to have some actual life experience before money like that dropped in their laps. And it's not paternalistic either -- it's financially prudent. How many 20 year old's know how to invest money well and deal with tax issues?
You realize small schools have for years been getting crushed?
There are a finite number of power 5 scholarships, which are already being filled by the top recruits. Are you suggesting the P5 schools will have 100 walk on players, leaving the small schools without players?
Back in the Denard days, I was a huge proponent of NIL deals with a catch: that in order to be paid sponsorship money, a player needed to waive their scholarship rights. That would allow the player to be essentially a walk-on (though would still count toward scholarship caps) and the school could extend those "waived" scholarship dollars from the athletic department to the financial aid office.
The AD is a wash in terms of dollars spent, the players had NIL to cover tuition etc. (aka eligibility tax), and more students were able to get financial aid. Win-win-win.
Of course, all moot now when athletes get scholarship AND cash.
Back in the Denard days, I was a huge proponent of NIL deals with a catch: that in order to be paid sponsorship money, a player needed to waive their scholarship rights. That would allow the player to be essentially a walk-on (though would still count toward scholarship caps) and the school could extend those "waived" scholarship dollars from the athletic department to the financial aid office.
The AD is a wash in terms of dollars spent, the players had NIL to cover tuition etc. (aka eligibility tax), and more students were able to get financial aid. Win-win-win.
Of course, all moot now when athletes get scholarship AND cash.
Which makes it interesting, at what point do guys who get these monster endorsements take a walk on spot so the school can sign more players?
The exact same point when people give up social security benefits because they don’t need them. Or pay more taxes because they can. You signing up for those?
If paying more in taxes gets me a top shelf left tackle who will keep my head attached to my body and allow me to make millions more? YeeHaw, sign me up.
It’s gonna be hilarious when college QBs are buying their line Rolexes for Christmas.
What is this horse-shit? Michigan is one of the best Universities in the world. Tuition now is upwards of a quarter million for an undergraduate. That's about 62.5k a year for going to school. With already paid-for housing and food. Add another ticket to that and it's already 6 figures for a FANTASTIC school, playing a game you love (that got you there anyway) and being (potentially) a celebrity. Don't act like these scholarship players are or ever were oppressed by the last system. That is bat-shit crazy.
I don't disagree with the value of the education, but what's the point if you spend so much of your time on the practice field or exercise room? Those kids should have been given the ability to earn money in the offseason a long time ago. And on top of that, there should have been a legitimate cap on how much time they had to spend on their sport so they could study. Oh, and an extra two years to get their degree after their eligibility expires.
They couldn't do those simple things years ago and now the NCAA has an unmaintainable situation on their hands.
I do disagree. Hardly anyone is actually paying 62.5k a year to go to Michigan.
Most people no... but they are paying $30k/yr.
So $120k for 4 years, world class coaches, trainers, doctors, nutritionists, equipment, tutors, best dorms, adoration (ok, only sometimes). Sorry, I don't feel sorry for them lol.
And 98.4% of football players will not go to the NFL so yeah, that degree is worth a hell of a lot especially from UM.
The NIL shit is already going off the deep end as I predicted. I don't have any problem with players making a few bucks from a jersey but the money has to be pooled for the team at the very least. This is a team sport. You don't score TD's by yourself.
Why would you spend your life working your ass off becoming an offensive linemen to go block for millionaires when you make nothing and have a 1% chance of being a pro? seriously.
I'm not the first person to air this thought, but I wonder if anyone at Michigan is thinking strategically about NIL issues. If there's activity in that area, I wonder how it compares to what's going on at Alabama, Clemson, and OSU.
I have a bad feeling that Michigan (football, at least) is more concerned with "establishing the run" and "winning the time-of-possession battle."
I don't mean to be a Negative Ned, but I wonder how much Michigan's large, wealthy fanbase will match up with the fanbases of Alabama, OSU, etc. Michigan's fanbase may be richer, but do we have the same motivation to share some of that money with our team's players? I question whether we'll keep up on that front.
I wonder how much Michigan's large, wealthy fanbase will match up with the fanbases of Alabama, OSU, etc. Michigan's fanbase may be richer, but do we have the same motivation to share some of that money with our team's players?
Not only do we not care as much as Bama & OSU's fan bases do, we'd seemingly rather die on our sword of moral & academic high ground than keep up with the Jones'. I don't get it, but what do I know?
I made kids CD-ROMs back in the day and when the DVD became popular they completely displaced CD-ROMs in target and Walmart. The entire industry was virtually wiped out in a snap.
Michigan is right that breaking the rules is wrong and I'm glad we supposedly didn't break the rules other than stretching too much. But we were still making CD-ROMs when the world wanted DVDs.
Now the NIL is a thing I hope we stop making CD-ROMs and start doing some Web 7.0 shit. Cheating is legal now bitches. Let's make something happen.
I thought the same thing Eric when I saw this come across my Twitter feed today. Michigan absolutely can match schools like Alabama financially but will they? Bama fans seems way more invested personally in the team's success than Michigan's do which may account for the disparity.
NIL is just bagmen being brought out into the light of day. That same car dealer in Birmingham would gave players 100K to go to Alabama now gets a bit of a return on his investment by paying that player 100K to go on TV and shill his cars. Will dealers in Michigan do the same? I dont know.
BTW my son and I stayed in Dayton last Monday night (actually Kettering) as we've started the college tours and first two we hit were OSU & Miami.
But, did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express?
Good luck with the college selection. It just means that you are growing old.