Report: Taulia's Waiver Request Denied, Will Enter Draft

Submitted by BursleyHall82 on January 16th, 2024 at 12:17 PM

247 is reporting that Taulia Tagovailoa's waiver request was denied, so that option is off the table.

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Bo Harbaugh

January 16th, 2024 at 2:41 PM ^

He was the highest variance B1G QB and therefore one of the most fun QB's I can remember watching...when not playing UM.

Made NFL type plays that scared the shit out of you, only to follow it up with yackety sax plays.  Was fun watching him put the fear of god into OSU fanbase.  Not so much watching him go full Joe Burrow on a drive against UM.

highlow

January 16th, 2024 at 12:21 PM ^

I get why the waiver was denied, but I also feel for Taulia.  Maybe a snap % makes more sense than a flat four-game counter for redshirts.  Let guys play in garbage time!

But someone soon will sue the NCAA on this.  Likely this cost TaTa a lot of scratch, as he's a viable college QB and I think his pro prospects are, uh, limited.  He's not the only guy worth a lot on the college market who may not hang in the NFL.

mGrowOld

January 16th, 2024 at 12:33 PM ^

Your post made me think of something.  Is there any rule preventing someone from returning to college from the NFL if they still have eligibility left?  Take a guy like Zack Wilson, his pro career is going to shit - could he jump BACK to college ball if the NIL money was strong enough?

These are strange times we live in that's for sure.

MI Expat NY

January 16th, 2024 at 12:53 PM ^

As soon as you become a professional in a given sport, your NCAA eligibility expires for that sport.  Admittedly, this line is certainly blurred in the time of NIL, but that is indeed why nominally there are still prohibitions against "pay for play" NIL.  It's also why occasionally you can have an athlete playing professionally in one sport while maintaining NCAA eligibility in another.

OC Wolverine

January 16th, 2024 at 1:55 PM ^

In  addition to losing amateur status (or whatever the NCAA calls it now) issues raised by others, I thought eligibility is also limited based on when you start college - five years from when you start college to play four years or something like that.  There are some exceptions for medical redshirts, COVID year, etc.

Jordan Kovacs used his redshirt when he was enrolled in Michigan as freshman and not even part of football team and had four years to use up his eligibility.

willirwin1778

January 16th, 2024 at 1:01 PM ^

I like your idea regarding the snap count %.  On average there are 67-84 offensive snaps per team in a game, so the average of the average would be about 75 snaps per team per game.

75 X 12 games = 900 snaps per season

1/3 of 12 games = 4 games (current limit)

So, by my basic math you could consider giving a player 300 total snaps or less.  Less if the logic is a freshman would not get a full four games, then maybe you make it 150 snaps or some other number. 

Either way, a snap count percentage logic would probably be more fair for all involved because it would eliminate the situations in which a player gets docked a full game for literally going in for 2 snaps because a starter sprained an ankle in the last two minutes of the game and a sideline coach was scrambling to find someone to throw on the field.

Something to consider.

 

highlow

January 16th, 2024 at 1:16 PM ^

I think the only advantage is certainty - you don't want a guy getting burned because you had a few less snaps than you thought during the course of the season, or a dude gets locked on the field during a tempo drive, or someone just fucks up counting, and poof goes a redshirt year.   Something like four games or ~75 snaps.

93Grad

January 16th, 2024 at 12:23 PM ^

There goes one of the few transfer upgrade possibilities.   Not sure there are any left, but I haven't kept up with all the comings and goings.  

bluesalt

January 16th, 2024 at 4:45 PM ^

Yep.  It will be less time to learn a playbook and develop a rapport with the rest of the offense, but I’d be surprised if we don’t get the one of the top QBs in the spring transfer window.  Especially considering there are certain to be some QBs who need to graduate first so they can transfer as a grad student.

Hoek

January 16th, 2024 at 12:24 PM ^

Was this denied due to Maryland and Alabama saying no? or was it 100% on the NCAA? I thought i read somewhere (probably here) that both schools had to agree to it.

crg

January 16th, 2024 at 2:08 PM ^

He exhausted his number of years.

His "hail mary" attempt at getting a waiver was that one of his early years he only played five games (or something similiar) - and was trying to get that year removed from the eligibility counter.

Yet he had no extenuating circumstances (medical or otherwise) to justify it.  If they granted it to Tualia they would need to basically give everyone an extra year.

NeverPunt

January 16th, 2024 at 12:29 PM ^

still has NFL upside. behind a really good offensive line, I could see him putting it all together at times in the pros. Not likely but you never know - see Penix.

PopeLando

January 16th, 2024 at 12:39 PM ^

“You know a lot of people go to college for 7 years.”

”I know, they’re called doctors.”

Getting coached by Josh Gattis should automatically extend your eligibility. It would be hilarious if it came out that Shea Patterson actually HATES playing golf, but he just had to hide somewhere where Gattis wouldn’t follow him.

Junior18

January 16th, 2024 at 6:03 PM ^

I think Bursley is on to something. Saban foresaw this day six years ago. Knowing Michigan would ruin the final game of his illustrious career by beating him in an epic game in the Rose Bowl, he put Taulia in just enough games for the season to count against his eligibility. Patiently, he waited six years for the last laugh. 

Well played, Coach Saban, well played. 

MadGatter

January 16th, 2024 at 1:05 PM ^

Also Arizona's QB Noah Fifita is sticking with Arizona so that pipe dream is dead too. 

Looks like its clear Michigan is rolling with one of Denegal/Orji/Davis next year

MadGatter

January 16th, 2024 at 1:50 PM ^

I am not sure McCloud is a high P5 level QB. Seems pretty telling that Cignetti didnt take McCloud with him to Indiana. Will Rogers I think sticks with Washington and also doesnt even fit our style of offense very well.

I also dont want a spring transfer qb (unless something really perfect comes along). Those guys would only have like 3 months to learn the entire offense before having to implement it in game. Just wont work.

I'd rather roll with the high ceiling dudes (Denegal and Orji) and see where an offseason of competition, and full reps with the 1s, takes them.