Potential for more staff changes post Bowl Game? Questions on DB coaches
I saw a Harbaugh quote last week (same day as the Corley crystal ballz to OSU came out) in regard to Coach Partridge's future on the staff. Essentially it was "Great Coach, Great Man etc. .........We will see how things look after the NFL hiring cycle."
I took this to mean one of two things:
- Stop asking me about this!
- He thinks one of his D staff may move to the pro-ranks for 2016-2017
If it is actualy option 2, this could be a Harbaugh decision to make room for Partridge or a desire of the coach himself. (Didn't one of the BH or RR coaching staff "move up" to the NFL to free a spot?)
My thought is this would have to be one of the 2 current DB coaches given Brown's past experience coaching DBs and the fact that Mittison isn't going anywhere until retirement.
I really haven't heard much regarding either Zordich or Jackson aside from the occasional MgoBlue interview so I was wondering if any of the "insiders" on the blog could answer the following about them:
- Which of the 2 is more likely to recieve an NFL offer? (I would assume Jackson but my momma always told me.....)
- Is one getting better reviews than the from the current team?
- Recruiting -- I don't recall being either mentioned prominently by current recruits. Would one be a larger loss than the other in this aspect?
- Which do you think would be a bigger loss if in fact one were to leave the staff?
Could just be a whole lot about nothing, but something about the quote made me think otherwise.
December 29th, 2015 at 2:37 PM ^
was that Jackson was going to bail if he didn't get the DC gig, but I could be remembering that wrong.
December 29th, 2015 at 2:45 PM ^
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December 29th, 2015 at 3:00 PM ^
staff moves they want to make on that side of the ball now that we have a DC (and Mattison).
My concern is Fisch. He kicked ass as the Passing Game Coordinator / QB / WR Coach. As much as I like Drevno I think I'd rather have Fisch as OC.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:02 PM ^
According to this article, Fisch and Harbaugh have tentatively agreed upon an extension.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:14 PM ^
Also, I like his face.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:24 PM ^
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December 29th, 2015 at 4:16 PM ^
You must mean Andy Samberg
December 29th, 2015 at 3:15 PM ^
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December 29th, 2015 at 3:26 PM ^
I don't think the OL was anything to write home about this year. I mean, better than last year, but still not good. I refuse to believe that all of our RB's are blind and slow and we had zero run game towards the end of the season.
Now look at the passing game stats this year. Once Rudock got his feet wet he was lighting it up through the air. He only needs something like 250 yards against Florida to move up to #2 in single season passing yards at Michigan.
Remember after the spring game when we were all shitting ourselves because we didn't have any receivers? Fisch coached them too.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:35 PM ^
Yeah ideally, UM keeps both. And I think they do keep both with Fisch getting a big raise. Different opinion, but I just think that while Fisch's work with the WR is undeniable, good WR coaches are easier to find. And Harbaugh I think the main reason Rudock got better considering the history of all QBs under Harbaugh. Meanwhile Drevno was Harbaugh's OL and OC when he did a quick re-build of San Diego into a championship team, as well as the OL coach during the last two years of Harbaugh's Stanford teams and at the 49ers. He's just got too many feathers in his cap when coaching OL to let him go despite UM's OL not taking the complete step forward many were hoping for/expecting.
December 29th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^
Harbaugh for that long. They must work really well together. It just seems odd to me that Michigan is the first time he's ever been an OC. I would have thought Fisch would have gotten the title just based on experience (Miami/NFL).
Although I honestly think that the offense was run by committee this year, and Harbaugh himself does get most of the credit for Rudock.
December 29th, 2015 at 6:18 PM ^
season, due to his buyout. I wouldn't be surprised to see him named Co-OC and paid accordingly next season.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:57 PM ^
December 29th, 2015 at 4:10 PM ^
Since Harbaugh is basically the OC, there wouldn't seem to be any harm in making Fisch co-OC together with Drevno. Sounds like that might accurately reflect the reality anyway.
December 29th, 2015 at 5:02 PM ^
not to mention how the Delance recruitment shakes out, we'd have to have one of the top oline recruiting classes in the nation coming in. They need to get coached up.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:15 PM ^
He got a huge promotion to get the UM job. Previously he was, yes, at the NFL level, but he was an ASSISTANT position coach. You're not going to get a Michigan level DC job based on being an assistant DB coach at the NFL. You're not even going to get a MAC level DC job with that being the top item on your resume.
Jackson hasn't done nearly enough to prove he's a DC yet, IMO.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:22 PM ^
He's basically been a journeyman position coach since like 2003. I can understand why he wants a shot at being a DC. But I agree, UM isn't the place to be handed that. If he wants to take a DC job at a lower level school, that's fine, but after only one year at UM getting the DC spot? Seems a little premature; may have to prove himself a bit more. Especially when UM had a shot a extremely well respected defensive mind and seasoned coaching veteran like Brown.
December 29th, 2015 at 2:45 PM ^
And honestly, I think that's the only thing that makes much sense in this context. I can't imagine Harbaugh "making room" for Partridge by encouraging an NFL caliber coach to move on. Just seems way too far fetched.
December 29th, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^
Woodson.
December 29th, 2015 at 2:47 PM ^
I wonder how out of the question this really is?
"Sorry I couldn't make it to the BBQ at The Big House, I was in Canton being inducted into the pro football hall of fame"
God that would be awesome.....
December 29th, 2015 at 3:00 PM ^
Lets DISCUSS the potential merits.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:10 PM ^
We see what you did there.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:10 PM ^
I'll bet an MGoPoint that his future will be wine and fundraising for Mott.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:41 PM ^
like Harbaugh had at Western Kentucky when his Dad was the HC? He might be the greatest volunteer assistant coach ever...after Jim Harbaugh that is
December 29th, 2015 at 6:20 PM ^
Harbaugh was able to do that because WKU was in a lower division back then. FBS schools cannot employ volunteer coaches in football.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:11 PM ^
Mr Woodson to be behind the mic making a lot of money.
Meaning one of the Sunday pregame dudes. Not announcing. Just clarifying.
December 29th, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^
Mattison is at an age where retirement is a legit possibility annually. Have we any confirmation he's coming back next season? Bowl game DC could be his swan song.
(Just throwing out a hypothetical; don't want to see this happen nor think it's a likely outcome.)
December 29th, 2015 at 2:52 PM ^
and if this is the case, one of the DB coaches would HAVE to go, since there is no D-Line experience on staff.
I still think Mattison has at least one more year. Still: Harbaugh may want to keep Partirdge, but he'd HAVE to make a move if Mattison leaves.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:01 PM ^
December 29th, 2015 at 4:25 PM ^
He was a LB according to this article.
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/115227/partridge-brings-unique…
December 29th, 2015 at 7:07 PM ^
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on staff with a strong background in DL coaching. So Partridge isn't a replacement for him imo.
I personally hope we consider Jerry Montgomery when GMat retires. Must be a decent coach and one heck of a recruiter. Not sure he would come in for less than a Co-DC title though, despite the M ties.
December 29th, 2015 at 6:27 PM ^
to co-DC at Oklahoma.Hard to see him coming back here.
December 29th, 2015 at 2:58 PM ^
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from Michigan to wear in retirement.
December 29th, 2015 at 2:55 PM ^
To keep Partridge as a coach wouldn't one of the current coaches have to leave? Or is there the chance they move him back to the administrative job post bowl.
December 29th, 2015 at 2:59 PM ^
If no changes happen they can move CP back to recruiting coordinator but I would suspect he will be gone after next year if a coaching position doesn't open by then.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:08 PM ^
highly of his current job, but I agree that he needs to be made a coach at some point over the next year.
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December 29th, 2015 at 3:56 PM ^
I see this again and again, but keep wondering where it is coming from. When we lost Durkin, there was a lot of speculation that perhpas Jackson would be in line for the DC position, but how did that start?
Seems to me that it might be one of those rumors that has been repeated so much, that it is now accepted as fact. Or did I miss something substantive related to Jackson's wishes?
Serious question.
December 29th, 2015 at 5:11 PM ^
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December 30th, 2015 at 10:27 AM ^
I think it's somethings that have leaked out of Schembechler but also a lot of the public rationalizing which coach would leaving make the most sense for.
Jackson just turned in a GREAT year with JD as an AA and one of the best secondaries in the nation, improving on last year's unit even with an average-at-best 2nd corner (not a knock on Clark, Strib, or Jabrill when he was outside - they'll all be good cover guys eventually they're just average and improving right now). He also came from the NFL to basically the same role in college. He's young, a good coach, and doesn't want to stagnate here.
So yeah, I think part of it is just repetition, like one of those internet "facts" that gets retweeted/shared enough that teenagers and facebook moms believe it to be true just from seeing it so much. But I also know that he asked to be interviewed for the DC gig and has expressed interest to move up in his role. So it is probably his actual sentiments blown out of proportion by being discussed so much.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^
It would suck to lose any coach, especially late into the off-season like this, but if we're going to lose a coach a secondary one would be the least harmful. Even if Jackson left, we'd still have Brown and Zordich so I think our secondary would be fine.
However if someone does leave, I'm not the biggest fan of Partridge getting the job. He's been great in his capacity so far and I know he wants to coach, but I'd rather get a proven LB coach than hire a guy with no prior D1 coaching experience. Unless our LBs play like All-Americans vs Florida I'd rather any replacement be an outside hire.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:34 PM ^
I will have to defer to Harbaugh on this one... If Harbaugh thinks Partridge can handle it and has only been praising him, I am more than comfortable with him being a position coach.
December 29th, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^
Gotta trush Harbaugh's eye for talent on this one if he does promote him full time to a position coach. But it's not a crazy track either. Before he was a HC at Paramus, he was an assistant coach at The Citadel and another small school (his alma mater I believe which slips my mind and I don't feel like looking up). So it's not unheard of to take the next step as a D-1 position coach then.
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