Post your OC possibilities
January 8th, 2014 at 7:36 PM ^
He didn't seem to have much problems developing players at USC when he was TE coach, WR coach, or OC. From 2001 - 2006 he had a hand in developing offensive players. In that time there were 31 draft picks, 14 being offensive players, 9 of which were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. Breaking it down a little further:
2001 - Kiffin is TE Coach - (6 - 6) - 3 players drafted, all later rounds.
2002 - Kiffin is WR Coach - (11-2) - 2 players drafted in later rounds.
2003 - Kiffin is WR Coach - (12-1) - 5 players drafted - 1 receiver.
2004 - Kiffin is WR Coach - (11-0 *2 vacated wins) - 4 players drafted - 1 receiver.
2005 - Kiffin is OC/recruiting coordinator - (0-1 *12 wins vacated) - 6 players drafted - 1 receiver in the 1st round. #1 recruiting class.
2006 - Kiffin is OC/recruiting coordinator - (11-2) -11 players drafted - 8 offensive players. #1 recruiting class.
Seems like they had some pretty good player development with 17 players drafted his last two years when he was the OC/recruiting coordinator. Also brought in some pretty solid recruits.
January 8th, 2014 at 8:59 PM ^
You could make the same claim re: player development about anyone on staff during the Carroll years. They had a ton of 5* kids and a ton of success, so that naturally equals a lot of players drafted. He is a good recruiter and did play a part in bringing in that talent, but I know that the last two years at USC (2012 & 2013) he completely lost the team. I had friends on the team and they didn't just dislike the guy, they hated him and it wasn't isolated to them. The whole team hated his guts. Kiffen would be a terrible decision for Michigan right now.
January 8th, 2014 at 7:01 PM ^
then you don't know Lane Kiffin.
January 8th, 2014 at 7:15 PM ^
But I would assume he has to be smart enough to learn from his mistakes, especially with people like Brandon and Hoke looking over his shoulder constantly.
January 8th, 2014 at 7:18 PM ^
You think he'd be intimidated by Hoke or Brandon.
January 8th, 2014 at 7:38 PM ^
I'm not saying Hoke is going to bully him into not being a douche nozzle. I'm saying I think Kiffin could learn how to win over a fan base from a guy like Hoke.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:37 PM ^
We've been told that things had to go less than optimal the last few years because we were moving toward something that would be better, but that required dramatic changes. Is that just getting chucked out the window?
If we're running an up-tempo, spread-to-run next year with Gardner on his way out after forcing Denard to line up under center a good chunk of the time and run a west coast passing attack I'm going to be a little ill.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:47 PM ^
Doubt that Hoke will throw out his stated offensive philosophy. He was the one preaching Manball afterall.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:50 PM ^
That just limits the candidate pool quite a bit, I would think. It also makes me wonder if Borges is more problem or scapegoat. And if he is/was the problem, why did it take three whole seasons to figure it out?
January 8th, 2014 at 5:57 PM ^
Well, changes aren't going to be made after an 11-2 season, so that wasn't happening.
Last year Michigan could hide behind the "Denard was hurt!!!" excuse, so that wasn't happening.
But this year, while youth certainly came into play, Michigan just sunk too low too many times on offense to justify keeping things in place.
I think its a great move as long as they get the right guy. Its similar to what would have happened had Michigan brought in Casteel in 2011 rather than blowing everything up.
January 8th, 2014 at 7:43 PM ^
analysis
January 8th, 2014 at 6:01 PM ^
A lot of our offensive struggles were predictable outcomes of inexperience; another portion were outcomes of poor tactical and strategic decisions--many, I'd assume, coming from Borges, though some probably also coming from Hoke. Plus there's bad fortune--make that 2pt conversion against Ohio, or one of those doomed FG tries against PSU, and how do perceptions change?
Thus I'd say Borges is fairly blamed for certain things and being scapegoated for others.
January 8th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^
was the lack of improvement on the offensive line. . . every bit as terrible in the Copper Bowl as we were against Penn State. . .
January 8th, 2014 at 5:58 PM ^
that we hire a guy with Devin and his strengths in mind or a guy with Morris/Speight and their abilities in mind? If we hire a manball guy, do we lose another year trying to put square offensive pegs in circles?
January 8th, 2014 at 6:19 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 7:08 PM ^
How much of that is truly what he plans/planned on doing and how much of that is saying what boosters wanted to hear after the RR experiment? Just about everyone outside of this blog was begging for the next Lloyd Carr. I personally think Hoke is willing to go with whatever wins. He's said before he's not an offense-minded guy and stays away from tinkering with offensive playcalling as much as possible.
January 8th, 2014 at 7:41 PM ^
Judging by your tone, I think I'm with you and in the minority and thinking this move may have been done hasily or for wrong reasons. I'm not necessairly mad that Borges was fired but I'm questioning the decision a bit. The team wasn't very good last year, not just Al Borges.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:39 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 5:40 PM ^
Josh McDaniels has taken the job. He withdrew his name from consideration as head coach of the Browns earlier today. OBVIOUSLY that's because he's taking the Michigan head coaching gig - a step up from gig with Patriots and 10 steps up from Browns head coaching gig. OBVIOUSLY.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:47 PM ^
Hoke calls Tom Brady, walks over to Josh, flies to Ann Arbor?
January 8th, 2014 at 6:53 PM ^
Don't even joke about that.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:41 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 5:53 PM ^
But I've been told that all you need to coach at Michigan is "Michigan Man" powers and all running backs magically gain 3.0 ypc.
No more.
No less.
Have I been lied to?
January 8th, 2014 at 6:21 PM ^
Not lied to, but mistaken. The cloud of dust is good for +/- 1 yard.
January 8th, 2014 at 8:15 PM ^
I tried for about 30 seconds to upvote this more than once but to no avail.
Agree 100%.
Having to hire a "Michigan Man" severely reduces the pool of potential candidates. There's gotta be a talented person out there that wants this job, "Michigan Man" or not.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:42 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 5:44 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 5:44 PM ^
Should be easy, I can just visit here from time to time to find out what I should be doing.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:45 PM ^
38.7 ppg, 257.3 rushing ypg, and 200 passing ypg in 2013.
January 8th, 2014 at 6:09 PM ^
Living in Minnesota I have watched the Bison play quite a few times, Nand I actually like this guy.
January 8th, 2014 at 6:50 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 5:47 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 6:35 PM ^
Hecklinski is a well-regarded guy in the coaching fraternity, and our WRs have been pretty good under his coaching. I have no idea how he'd do as OC, and I'd prefer an experienced playcaller, but I wouldn't write him off. I would imagine a WR coach is probably going to favor a pretty open offense.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:47 PM ^
Rita Rodriguez
January 8th, 2014 at 6:48 PM ^
Actual headline in AA.com...
Recipe: Velveeta shortage looms, but your queso dip is not in peril
http://www.mlive.com/living/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/01/velveeta_shorta…
Coincidence???
January 8th, 2014 at 5:48 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 7:41 PM ^
i agree...he's my choice.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:48 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 5:48 PM ^
will be part of the Michigan staff in 2014, if not the OC. He may split OC responsibilities (running game OC v. passing game OC), but my prediction is that Mr. Wheatley will be part of the Michigan football staff.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:59 PM ^
You don't have separate running and passing OC's, you just don't. It's a cohesive whole (or should be).
January 8th, 2014 at 6:39 PM ^
Actually it's quite common to have for staffs to have a passing game coordinator (usually it's the QB coach).
January 8th, 2014 at 7:37 PM ^
Sure, but it's still only one OC.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:49 PM ^
Just fired as Miami's OC. HC for Packers and Texas A&M. Run an NFL offense and reestablish
UM as a pro style offense. Let Shane play a lot next year...
January 8th, 2014 at 5:49 PM ^
Mike Sherman
January 8th, 2014 at 5:50 PM ^
TONY BUNGIE
January 8th, 2014 at 5:50 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 7:35 PM ^
January 8th, 2014 at 5:51 PM ^
Is it weird that I would interested to see what Nick Sheridan can do as a coach? He's an pass game c/QB coach at USF. Michigan certainly won't have the balls to hire a younger guy (god forbid) though, so he's out.
January 8th, 2014 at 5:52 PM ^