Pac2 may be after nearly 500 Million of Pac12 assets for this year.

Submitted by SFBayAreaBlue on November 14th, 2023 at 10:06 AM

https://sports.yahoo.com/who-will-control-pac-12-moving-forward-tuesdays-hearing-could-have-wide-ranging-impacts-140006253.html?guccounter=1

 

Pac 12 schools were scheduled to make around 40 million per school for this the final year of their TV contracts.  OSU and WSU want to be declared the only remaining voting members of the Pac-12. 

I suddenly don't hate the idea of leaving the B1G immediately if a big chunk of that money could be used to build up a new Pac-xx conference over a year or two. I wonder what teams might want to rethink their partial share memberships in other places if Michigan were there to secure a big contract.

RAH

November 14th, 2023 at 11:59 AM ^

I'm not sure why everyone seems to think the ACC is not an option.

If Michigan came in and could convince Notre Dame to assume an actual membership there would be 3 elite level football programs and some good midlevel programs that sometimes get into the top 10 or 15.

There would also be some very highly regarded academic institutions and Florida State is on the verge of joining the AAU.

It would also give Michigan an in to the hottest recruiting areas in the country without having to join the recruiting cesspool of the SEC.

And, finally, it would have appeal to the viewers in the east coast megapolis, Florida, Georgia, and the national fan base of Michigan and Notre Dame.   

raleighwood

November 14th, 2023 at 12:33 PM ^

I think that the ACC is a legit option (and not just because I live in Raleigh).  It's largely based in Eastern time zone.  The academics are top notch (Duke, Stanford, Cal, UNC, UVA....).  The football is good and the basketball can be great.  Baseball and Lacrosse would be at a whole new level.

I don't REALLY think that UM will leave the B1G.  However, if they do, they ACC seems like a reasonable option.

oriental andrew

November 14th, 2023 at 10:13 AM ^

Well, it probably won't be the ones who just left, right? I would die laughing if USC, UCLA, UW, UO, Stanford, and Cal changed their minds and decided to remain in the Pac if Michigan joined the party. 

that said...

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08mms

November 14th, 2023 at 3:15 PM ^

My guess is the next iteration won't be any of the legacy conferences with their baggage (both administrative and in ties to non-major revenue schools).  My guess is the next step will be formation of an elite superleague that can offer all of its participants much bigger stakes with lower overhead, but that probably comes together halfway through the existing TV contracts while the big dogs hash it out.

CliffSnotes

November 15th, 2023 at 9:14 AM ^

This is what I’m thinking. Up until this point, Michigan would have stayed loyal to the Big Ten. But now, let’s say Amazon or Netflix or even Fox wanted an 8 team football only superconference. I’m sure that Michigan listens now. 
 

Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas, Alabama, USC, Georgia. Start there. I’m sure Ohio State would join. The last spot can be Florida, Oklahoma… I don’t care. 
 

That Superconference could schedule two conference games per week. And each game would draw 6-18 Million viewers. And probably net each team about $200 Million in TV revenue per year. 

We are back

November 14th, 2023 at 10:30 AM ^

If Michigan were to leave the only conference I’d consider is the SEC. I know they don’t have the best rep, but they take football and sports seriously and don’t try to ruin each other. 

We are back

November 14th, 2023 at 10:40 AM ^

We have stayed on a moral high ground and watched OSU do it for years and kick our teeth in. With NIL now I could care less about pay for play. We have the alumni to make it happen. 
 

it’s rumored OSU is still paying cash for visits, so that’s okay but Michigan couldn’t go to the SEC?

TK

November 14th, 2023 at 10:46 AM ^

If you follow recruiting you know we lose a ton of recruits to “NIL friendly” schools. I don’t think joining the SEC would make us flip a switch and say ok, now we will do it. 
It would be a tremendous disadvantage for us to compete against schools that are paying up front for recruits. It’s not that we can’t do it, it’s that we are unwilling. 

M-Dog

November 14th, 2023 at 10:35 AM ^

Michigan would not need to "join" the SEC.  Instead, Michigan would partner with the SEC to lay the foundation of a national superconference that detaches itself from the NCAA.

It would be based on the SEC as its initial core (it would be re-branded to be called something else) which would then add teams from all regions of the country like Michigan, FSU, Miami, Clemson, ND and so on.

Equal strength Big Ten and SEC conferences keep this from happening now.  But if the Big Ten loses Michigan to the SEC, that equality is gone.  At that point the critical mass is with the SEC/superconference and programs will gravitate toward it.

Michigan is the olive that is pulled out of the jar.  Once it comes out, the rest all start coming out.

Red is Blue

November 14th, 2023 at 11:25 AM ^

Under such a model, it seems highly likely the SEC culture would prevail and be perpetuated.  So, while it may be called something different, at its heart it is pretty indistinguishable from M joining the SEC.  

The value would be in separating from the NCAA and creating a rule set that doesn't give the "SEC way" a competitive advantage. 

Edit:  BTW this is another reason teams in the B1G ought to be concerned with the league's actions.  If M is driven into some type of alliance with the SEC to start a super conference, as you point out, the B1G will no longer be on relative equal footing with the SEC.  This means the SEC will have a much stronger say in how that super conference gets set up and marginal teams in the SEC will have a much better chance of a "golden ticket" than the marginal teams in the B1G 

BlueinLansing

November 14th, 2023 at 12:08 PM ^

I think this is the head on the nail, Michigan is going to be the catalyst to end the NCAA's dominance of college athletics, particularly in football.    

Sucks it had to be this way but its so clear the Big Ten has become a toxic cess pool of Michigan haters that actively work to degrade Michigan athletics success.  That can't and shouldn't be tolerated.  The only answer may be to leave and blow it all up.

1VaBlue1

November 14th, 2023 at 11:19 AM ^

I, too, want to see the PAC-2 leftovers get the whole pie that everyone else left in the trash can on their way out.  However, using that money to reconstitute a Left Coast league isn't going to change the TV money allocated to the previous iteration of the PAC-12.  They are still on the West Coast, and as such don't get any TV viewership in the noon and 3:30 time slots.

That is the issue, not the teams.