Tater

December 31st, 2016 at 9:27 AM ^

"A lot of hype, but shits the bed when it matters?"

Rousey made women's MMA relevant.   Until her first defeat last year, she was the sport's biggest star, male or female, and was an undefeated champ at 12-0.  She also won an Olympic bronze medal in judo, the first US woman to ever medal in the event.

I am just wondering why someone whose main strengths are judo, jiujitsu and grappling was doing going toe to toe as a striker in her last two fights against fighters who specialize in striking.  She has been getting some terrible advice from her trainers.

If she quits today, she ends up 12-2 as a pro and 3-0 as an amateur.

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1of12MattDamons

December 31st, 2016 at 9:46 AM ^

No denying Ronda has greatly improved the sport for WMMA, but there is also no denying she was partly a product of UFC hype machine saying she was the baddest woman in the world and that she could be Floyd Mayweather(lol!) Many MMA fans knew once she started facing actually good strikers with good takedown defense and distance control that she'd be exposed for the one trick pony she has always been.

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BigCat14

December 31st, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^

Although she did not match Rousey's success in the octagon, Gina brought fame and recognition that women could hit and be hit! Plus she made several movies (is likely still doing that). So Ronda and women's MMA owe a debt of gratitude to her.

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Ryno2317

December 31st, 2016 at 2:48 PM ^

You can't stand toe to toe with an opponent who clearly has boxing skills. She didn't move her head, keep her hands up or tuck her chin. Although she tried to tie her up and stop the abuse, Nunez wouldn't let he do it as she would back up to keep her distance. Those two are not in the same league as far as boxing ability.

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nerv

December 31st, 2016 at 7:48 PM ^

I really dont think she wanted this fight against Nunes. Mentally she was finished after that first loss. Im not 100% on her contract with the UFC but I think she took part in this fight for a paycheck and to not breach her contract. She didn't even attempt a strategy change from what got her knocked out last time. Stood there and took a beating for a few seconds to get paid.

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cletus318

December 31st, 2016 at 5:22 AM ^

For the second fight in a row, Ronda, who's a grappler, tried to box with a boxer, with the results one might expect from such a strategy. It didn't help that she was fighting someone who wanted to hurt her bad, and hurt her bad Nunes did.

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Mr.Jim

December 31st, 2016 at 7:38 AM ^

...with a society that gets a thrill out of seeing its women beat the crap out of each other. Quite honestly, it is sickening. 

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Winchester Wolverine

December 31st, 2016 at 12:29 PM ^

So it's okay for men to do it but not women. Okay, gotcha. Sorry, we all forgot this is 1955 and women are small, frail creatures that soley belong in a kitchen instead of given the same opportunities as their male counterparts.

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Perkis-Size Me

December 31st, 2016 at 8:09 AM ^

It's their job, and they go into it voluntarily. They could do anything else in the world, but they choose to be UFC fighters.

If that's what they want, then why shouldn't we feel entertained when we watch them? That's the whole point of their job.

If you've got a problem with it, then don't watch. I'm just not a fan of double standards when we all enjoy watching men voluntarily beat the crap out of each other on the football field, in the ring, or in the cage, but heaven forbid two women decide to do it.....



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Mr.Jim

December 31st, 2016 at 8:41 AM ^

...if a couple of guys/gals voluntarily chose to run around in a cage and stab at each other that would be okay and we should enjoy watching it? Sorry, but the idea of something being acceptable because people "choose" to do it is just twisted logic.

It is up to society to set behavioral standards. Those chosen standards then affect the direction of its people. Equating a football game, where players are just blocking or tackling each other, with two women kicking and punching each other in the face in the hopes of knocking the other unconscious is nonsensical.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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SWPro

December 31st, 2016 at 9:05 AM ^

So running full speed at someone and hitting them as hard as you can is OK but punching someone is sickening?

 

I'm not a UFC or MMA guy in the least but if 2 people want to go compete on a level playing field in a safe environment then by all means they can and people are entitled to enjoy the competitition.

 

I'm curious as to where you draw the line?

 

Football/hockey? Boxing? Pro-wrestling? Amateur wrestling? Martial arts tournaments?

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bronxblue

December 31st, 2016 at 9:06 AM ^

Did you watch that game yesterday? Guys got hit a hell of a lot harder/more violently than anything we saw in this fight. And they nearly outlawed football decades ago because guys were dying on the field. You are entitled to your feelings about MMA, boxing, etc. But trying to draw a line in the gradient of their violence levels is tough sledding.

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mgobleu

December 31st, 2016 at 9:06 AM ^

I can't decide if i agree or disagree with your original premise, because i certainly don't care for the UFC myself, but if you'd like THIS particular society to set some sort of behavioral standards, you've got a thousand hills yet to die on once you've tamed the UFC. Not saying you're right or wrong, just saying GOOD LUCK.

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pbmd

December 31st, 2016 at 9:24 AM ^

True-
Football players don't ever die, suffer broken bones, suffer severe head injuries, have shortened life expectancy, live in chronic pain
Football is fine
Boxing and UFC is not fine



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Tunneler

December 31st, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^

like gladiators?  I think you may be on to something...  How much more interesting would bowling be if they had to dodge tridents & harpoons? I would say a lot!

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tsunami42080

December 31st, 2016 at 11:19 AM ^

Lol...you are probably the only one that sees much difference beween the two. NFL players quality of life is horrid post playing career. They are also trying to knock offensive players into next week with the artificial invincibility of a metal weapon (helmet and facemask) which allows them to have continuous collisions that mimic a car crash at 50+ mph. Although it may appear barbaric, it's actually a safer sport in many ways

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bronxblue

December 31st, 2016 at 9:03 AM ^

I mean...one is a crime and the other is a sport. Football would be assault if there weren't rules. I mean, you can be against sanctioned fighting and that's fine, but taking issue just with women doing it is, frankly, sexist.

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JHendo

December 31st, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^

I'll preface this by saying I don't agree with the point the OP of this string of comments was trying to make. That said, I think there's something to say about MMA (specifically UFC) vs another fighting sport, such as boxing. UFC is just a brawl; angry, agressive and violent and filled with emotion. Sure, there is strategy and there are tacticians in the "sport", but its on a much more raw and instictive level. Boxing, however, is a science. In a good boxing match, it was as if you were watching a beautiful dance between two partners who have done the tango with each other many times over. Many times I wonder if the MMA has risen more over boxing because people wanted to skip the dance and go right to violence. I don't care for UFC because it does too often turn into people simply beating the shit out of each other and lacks the beauty that a good boxing match has.

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